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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 05:19:43
August 12 2013 05:19 GMT
#71241
On August 12 2013 14:17 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 13:35 Grettin wrote:


fml

Wait, ti4 has been announced already?


Not really. Just assuming it would start at the same time next year.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 12 2013 05:21 GMT
#71242
it happened earlier compared to last year
u just have to convince them to keep bumping it up
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 12 2013 05:21 GMT
#71243
Nah ti2/3 were different dates
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 12 2013 05:22 GMT
#71244
On August 12 2013 13:34 icystorage wrote:
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On August 12 2013 12:20 rabidch wrote:
On August 12 2013 11:18 FinestHour wrote:
its always funny every year to see people complain and whine about different carries every time without fail
2011 anti mage/lycan , 2012 morph/naga, 2013 PL, lone druid/lifestealer, now weaver/alch
im looking forward to 2014 medusa craze when she gets put into cm mode with the new ult

centaur is actually the best hero not in cm mode

not medusa?

what centaur can do:
drop 650 aoe damage with 2.75 second duration stun in a second
ultimate allows teams to run all over the other team with drums on crack, cooldown scaling very well for the late game, giving max movmanliness to heroes that could be very well slowed or hexed, etc.
has the highest strength gain in the game (discounting pudge flesh heap) and has decent armor to boot
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 05:32:14
August 12 2013 05:26 GMT
#71245
On August 12 2013 13:29 rabidch wrote:
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On August 12 2013 12:25 Dead9 wrote:
what about earth panda for 5 panda team
too bad storm's a mexican now

thats dota1 man

Storm earth fire brew and what is the last one?

On August 12 2013 13:38 Kipsate wrote:
NerfBat to

Batrider
Naga Siren
Wisp
Chen
Natures Prophet
Alchemist

hue hue hue.

In all fairness I think Midas/Lothars maybe needs to be looked at.

Fixed it for you.

Chen and Alch only shined in the grand final. I think Puppey could have gone with letting Chen through, even if he can carry the other support through the jungle.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
August 12 2013 05:31 GMT
#71246
so when do we get to see the "free to play" documentary
Skol
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 12 2013 05:32 GMT
#71247
On August 12 2013 14:26 Mataza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 13:29 rabidch wrote:
On August 12 2013 12:25 Dead9 wrote:
what about earth panda for 5 panda team
too bad storm's a mexican now

thats dota1 man

Storm earth fire brew and what is the last one?

some kind of zombie panda probably...
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
August 12 2013 05:33 GMT
#71248
On August 12 2013 13:41 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Midas/lothars is fine. Just happens to be particularly strong on NP who is really only super good in the hands of Bulldog and mediocre on everyone else. Also might see a nerf to weaver but I don't think it's warranted just yet. Gotta be a visage nerf too I'd imagine at this point.

I'd also love to see a buff to roshan. Taking roshan on dire side is so safe with summons or minus armor right now..


Ohaiyo man. Carrying Orange with NP.
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
August 12 2013 05:39 GMT
#71249
I just want alch to be nerfed because i find him incredibly boring
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
August 12 2013 05:40 GMT
#71250
brew is 3 pandas
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
August 12 2013 05:42 GMT
#71251
On August 12 2013 14:40 Dead9 wrote:
brew is 3 pandas

Then it would be a 6 panda lineup.
Every element now has a panda in dota 1.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
August 12 2013 05:45 GMT
#71252
Man I think everyone is burned out for DotA 2 right now. Just looking at twitch, it has 3,100 viewers.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
August 12 2013 05:46 GMT
#71253
Well I guess we all can agree Split Push(aka rat dota) is very strong. Navi got destroyed because of 1 mistake.

Now that TI3's over, where's my Legion Commander. I demand a new hero this week.
Mew Mew Pew Pew
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
August 12 2013 05:46 GMT
#71254
now that ti3 is done, im excited to see what changes in 6.79 :D
:)
Teton
Profile Joined May 2010
France1656 Posts
August 12 2013 05:52 GMT
#71255
On August 12 2013 14:46 Mithhaike wrote:
Well I guess we all can agree Split Push(aka rat dota) is very strong. Navi got destroyed because of 1 mistake.

Now that TI3's over, where's my Legion Commander. I demand a new hero this week.


splitpushing has always been very good
expect some furion nerfs
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
August 12 2013 05:56 GMT
#71256
I`m just hoping for a fun minigame in preparation for 6.80.
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
August 12 2013 05:58 GMT
#71257
On August 12 2013 14:52 Teton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 14:46 Mithhaike wrote:
Well I guess we all can agree Split Push(aka rat dota) is very strong. Navi got destroyed because of 1 mistake.

Now that TI3's over, where's my Legion Commander. I demand a new hero this week.


splitpushing has always been very good
expect some furion nerfs


Split pushes are not inconsequential though. People need to realize that the reason why it comes of so strong during the match is because of puck and Na'Vi sort of panicking over what was happening. You can almost saying there was confusion which can be seen by their wanting to push but not push at the same time.

If one split pushes, the team fights will be a man down. It works if a team is strong enough to hold them off. What we saw here was a freak accident and brilliant play. At least for myself, I think creeps are just a tad too strong. There needs to be an advantage for those that drop the rax but it feels like the teams are at too much of a disadvantage.

On a side note, with the final match. One of the main hindrances of Na'Vi is that even though they were in the Dire base and outnumbered [A], they did not have the raw damage. So the double push by Furion and Ck was so strong because Na'Vi was not with the power to return the favor.
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Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
August 12 2013 05:59 GMT
#71258
Quick non-TI3 related question:

I've just gotten a couple of close friends to get really addicted to Dota. Now my problem is they want to 5-stack all the time, which is fine, but the roles are a bit messed up due to the fact that the skill levels are so diverse. Now I'm not going for a fully competitive team, but at least we want to win the majority of our AP/SD/CM games. That said, how do we diversify the roles/positions of everyone? This is the distribution of the players:

Player A. Played/Watched Dota since 5.84 days. Best (and most experienced) player. Used to play in local tournaments vs WCG-bound teams. Plays all positions, but has the most experience solo-mid. Up to date with current meta. In High/Very High bracket.

Player B: Played/Watched Dota since 5.84 days. Casual watcher/player. Decent in lane, but bad decision-making. Good at snowball heroes that aren't high mobility. Can play carry decently (and well, if baby-sat by good support).

Player C: Played/Watched Dota since 5.84 days, Casual watcher/player. Decent to good at certain heroes (Viper especially). Good decision-making. Weak mechanics, weak reaction, but very cerebral player. Can't play carry very well, unless ranged carry.

Player D: Played/Watched Dota since 6.xx days. Casual player, but doesn't watch pros. Bad map awareness. Decent at farming. Good when paired with teammate, bad solo. Can carry, but doesn't keep good creep equilibrium.

Player E: Only recently played Dota. Very fast learner. Hardcore watcher, plays as often as Player A. Good map awareness, bad decision-making. Decent solo player. Very good Huskar/Viper/Lich player. Still learning (and learning very fast) to the point that Player A thinks Player E is now the 2nd best player on the team.

Anyway I'd like to ask for your advice as to how we can best play. What positions should the players take? Player A, for example, is me (not trying to be arrogant, since I get utterly owned at times in pubs at High/VH), and I've recently felt that my pub games go better when I actually play support. I normally feed, but we always have better warding and teamfights. Sometimes I feel though that I could have played solo mid and dictated the teams' pace much more than as a support, and of course done much better in terms of lane dominance.

My question boils down to this: assuming a team of players who can be objectively be ranked 1-5 in terms of skill, which ones would you put at which position?
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
Teton
Profile Joined May 2010
France1656 Posts
August 12 2013 06:02 GMT
#71259
On August 12 2013 14:58 Nilrem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 14:52 Teton wrote:
On August 12 2013 14:46 Mithhaike wrote:
Well I guess we all can agree Split Push(aka rat dota) is very strong. Navi got destroyed because of 1 mistake.

Now that TI3's over, where's my Legion Commander. I demand a new hero this week.


splitpushing has always been very good
expect some furion nerfs


Split pushes are not inconsequential though. People need to realize that the reason why it comes of so strong during the match is because of puck and Na'Vi sort of panicking over what was happening. You can almost saying there was confusion which can be seen by their wanting to push but not push at the same time.

If one split pushes, the team fights will be a man down. It works if a team is strong enough to hold them off. What we saw here was a freak accident and brilliant play. At least for myself, I think creeps are just a tad too strong. There needs to be an advantage for those that drop the rax but it feels like the teams are at too much of a disadvantage.

On a side note, with the final match. One of the main hindrances of Na'Vi is that even though they were in the Dire base and outnumbered [A], they did not have the raw damage. So the double push by Furion and Ck was so strong because Na'Vi was not with the power to return the favor.


its a furion, it has a 20s cd and you can also hold tp scrools
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
August 12 2013 06:04 GMT
#71260
Play whatever you guys feel like playing. Don't focus on winning, focus on improving your own game and having a good time.
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