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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
Seriously, support bara is either completely useless (ie low level so skill build doesnt matter) or owning with team so he gets every skill maxed out very soon anyway. But generally why would anyone max aura before charge/bash (since the nerf/buff). | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13086 Posts
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 02 2013 22:59 Comeh wrote: To be honest, I could see the argument for getting aura after either bash or charge. Its situational, and has to be a support SB (duh), but I guess I'd have to see it in practice rather than theory craft it. I was more making the argument that you should max charge last and aura is more useful for the team in the mid game. I would never max it first. | ||
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Testuser
6469 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 02 2013 22:38 cecek wrote: The stun duration scaling isn't that relevant, because you always max bash first, so you already have a decent stun from that. You get a bit faster charge, big fucking deal, you're already moving faster than haste with just one level. It doesn't add damage, it doesn't reduce the cooldown. I really don't see a reason why I would want it. Have you played Charge-max Bara? It actually changes your level 5/7 gank execution a lot given how much faster you approach/arrive at your target. I was doing Bash/Aura max until I saw Charge max used in high level Chinese pubs, and tried it because of that. On paper the Charge speed doesn't sound that good, but it actually makes a big difference. Whether you max Aura or Bash after that is entirely situational based on the heroes your team has. Heroes that need the aura to engage (e.g. melee heroes with mediocre chasing ability and no long-range spells) like the aura, while longer-ranged heroes or heroes with blinks don't really need it. EDIT: This is for off-lane SB, where the expectation is that your solo-killing ability will be mediocre with off-lane farm/levels anyway. If you are playing a safe lane farming SB, Bash max is acceptable due to the fact that the higher Bash ranks enable you to solo kill earlier against weaker targets. If you do this, you'd naturally max Charge second, because Aura has very little effect on your solo-killing ability. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 02 2013 23:47 Torte de Lini wrote: I always max bash then charge with a point in aura. The passive and the bash to seem to be equal levels of awesome, depending on what you need. If I am ganking with Sven or Jugs, I am going to get aura. If I am working PA or Gyro, I am going to get bash. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66364 Posts
doesnt faster move speed due to higher levels in charge = more damage output since your current MS is greater than 522? or has it been max 522 all along and ignoring the 700 or so ms from charge? o_O thought that was the case since dota 1 lol (basically charge faster = more damage due to % dmg from MS) | ||
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
On August 03 2013 00:06 konadora wrote: wait. doesnt faster move speed due to higher levels in charge = more damage output since your current MS is greater than 522? or has it been max 522 all along and ignoring the 700 or so ms from charge? o_O thought that was the case since dota 1 lol (basically charge faster = more damage due to % dmg from MS) No, a few years ago(still dota1) charge was changed to triggered movement, so you didn't gain any damage from it, and a few version ago the "extra damage for movement speed" was entirely removed | ||
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ch33psh33p
7650 Posts
On August 02 2013 23:41 TheYango wrote: Have you played Charge-max Bara? It actually changes your level 5/7 gank execution a lot given how much faster you approach/arrive at your target. I was doing Bash/Aura max until I saw Charge max used in high level Chinese pubs, and tried it because of that. On paper the Charge speed doesn't sound that good, but it actually makes a big difference. Whether you max Aura or Bash after that is entirely situational based on the heroes your team has. Heroes that need the aura to engage (e.g. melee heroes with mediocre chasing ability and no long-range spells) like the aura, while longer-ranged heroes or heroes with blinks don't really need it. EDIT: This is for off-lane SB, where the expectation is that your solo-killing ability will be mediocre with off-lane farm/levels anyway. If you are playing a safe lane farming SB, Bash max is acceptable due to the fact that the higher Bash ranks enable you to solo kill earlier against weaker targets. Fuck thank you. | ||
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
lion (maybe sharman) who can hex when he charges in making sure your team group up as 3-5 and dont solo die by being exposed and alone in lanes warding so you can see him charge and make sure his team aren't following him so you know its safe to 2v1, 3v1 him rush a linkens and watch him waste his charge on you every 5 minutes make sure you have a stronger lategame carry and survive into late game basically pick a stun/hexer, build a linkens, pick a stronger carry, never leave you teammates alone (say in chat "sb will kill you" once every minute) | ||
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ChunderBoy
3242 Posts
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On August 02 2013 18:02 opterown wrote: the more i think about it, the more i really really dislike the BO1. if TI3 was one day longer or a few more hours each day they could have it in the extra BO3s. it would suck to do well in group stages, lose 2-1 in WB R1 and then 1-0 in LB R2, go home as 9-12th... That's what I said last year TT I still don't like it, especially now that schedule is not an issue anymore. | ||
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Rulker
United States1477 Posts
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crms
United States11933 Posts
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On August 03 2013 00:51 Rulker wrote: do i need to buy the compendium to watch ti3 in the client or is it free to watch in the client w/o it. free, you just won't have a chance at tournament drops or playing in the fantasy league etc. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
ahaha this is amazing | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
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