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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
August 02 2013 12:47 GMT
#69961
On August 02 2013 21:38 Fwizzz wrote:
SB is pretty sick. I've been picking him lately and winning most of my matches. Items in order are Treads/Urn/Drums. I then go for Aghs or Bkb. As for the skill build, I max first charge,bash and aura after.

Is aura strong?

I think maxing bash and aura with 1 point in charge is the way to go, personally. You get a guaranteed bash proc after charge and ultimate, so you're improving both the skills at the same time. I don't think maxing the charge is useful at all, because the stun doesn't do much, cause you auto-bash anyway, and the improved movement speed form it isn't really worth it, I don't think. And the aura is just so sick... I think it's totally his best spell. It's a permanent drum charge and buffs your bash damage. The item build is perfect, I do the same all the time. :D
super gg
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 02 2013 12:47 GMT
#69962
Don't max aura first. That's a waste. Rather max Charge and Bash first. The damage you gain from aura isn't that high. First point in aura is really good but aside from that rather max it out later.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
August 02 2013 12:49 GMT
#69963
On August 02 2013 21:46 Manijak wrote:
I'm new to dota2 and I've got a question...after the game you sometimes get a reward, what are the card ones good for/used for?
(sorry if it's the wrong thread)


Cards are a collectible item that can be stamped into the international 2013 compendium. You can get some rewards etc for doing so.

If you have a bunch of spares and no compendium of your own you can trade them for items since lots of people are still looking to complete their own sets.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
August 02 2013 12:49 GMT
#69964
On August 02 2013 21:46 Manijak wrote:
I'm new to dota2 and I've got a question...after the game you sometimes get a reward, what are the card ones good for/used for?
(sorry if it's the wrong thread)


Playercards? They are for compendium. Item that is solely for The International and you can "stamp" those cards on it.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 12:54:00
August 02 2013 12:53 GMT
#69965
On August 02 2013 21:47 Numy wrote:
Don't max aura first. That's a waste. Rather max Charge and Bash first. The damage you gain from aura isn't that high. First point in aura is really good but aside from that rather max it out later.

Dota is about more than simply 'more damage'.
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
August 02 2013 12:54 GMT
#69966
It's not the damage. The movement speed i super important, tho. It allows your teammates to catch up to heroes they wouldn't otherwise. What does a level 4 charge give you that you don't have from a level 1 charge? You're running at them a bit faster (750 instead of 600), which I don't see as super useful, because even 600 is already really fast. And you get a longer stun. (2.4 instead of 1.6) You already get a good duration stun from the autobash, I don't think it's worth it at all. Aura scales really well from 1 to 4: 6% movement speed on level 1 is barely noticeable, but 18% on level 4 is really really good.
super gg
Manijak
Profile Joined October 2010
Slovenia112 Posts
August 02 2013 12:54 GMT
#69967
Ty for the fast reply. One more thing, is there a way to have enemy heroes' mana bar visible - like health bar? That's been really bothering me
Eetee
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore373 Posts
August 02 2013 12:55 GMT
#69968
On August 02 2013 21:30 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 21:29 Eetee wrote:
Question about the group stage of ti3.

If i were to "farm" drops, how can i do that in group stages? I mean i could log into dota 2 client and watch one of the games, but i cannot be watching 2 games at the same time can I? The only other way i could think of was to watch on twitch with a linked account on a seperate game, but that's only 2 concurrent games...

Anyone with a better idea?

tbh i think it's pretty futile to "farm" drops. there will be thousands among thousands of people watching, and there are like 15-20 drops per game.


So.....i know the chances are very low....but still....anyone can enlighten me?
EeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeTTeeeeeeeeeeee!
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
August 02 2013 12:56 GMT
#69969
On August 02 2013 21:54 Manijak wrote:
Ty for the fast reply. One more thing, is there a way to have enemy heroes' mana bar visible - like health bar? That's been really bothering me


nope
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 02 2013 12:57 GMT
#69970
On August 02 2013 21:55 Eetee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 21:30 opterown wrote:
On August 02 2013 21:29 Eetee wrote:
Question about the group stage of ti3.

If i were to "farm" drops, how can i do that in group stages? I mean i could log into dota 2 client and watch one of the games, but i cannot be watching 2 games at the same time can I? The only other way i could think of was to watch on twitch with a linked account on a seperate game, but that's only 2 concurrent games...

Anyone with a better idea?

tbh i think it's pretty futile to "farm" drops. there will be thousands among thousands of people watching, and there are like 15-20 drops per game.


So.....i know the chances are very low....but still....anyone can enlighten me?

you will need multiple steam accounts, ideally over multiple PCs. not much else you can do. stack pennants i guess?
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
August 02 2013 12:57 GMT
#69971
On August 02 2013 21:54 Manijak wrote:
Ty for the fast reply. One more thing, is there a way to have enemy heroes' mana bar visible - like health bar? That's been really bothering me

Nope. You can only check it manually, clicking on enemy hero.
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Eetee
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore373 Posts
August 02 2013 12:58 GMT
#69972
On August 02 2013 21:57 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 21:55 Eetee wrote:
On August 02 2013 21:30 opterown wrote:
On August 02 2013 21:29 Eetee wrote:
Question about the group stage of ti3.

If i were to "farm" drops, how can i do that in group stages? I mean i could log into dota 2 client and watch one of the games, but i cannot be watching 2 games at the same time can I? The only other way i could think of was to watch on twitch with a linked account on a seperate game, but that's only 2 concurrent games...

Anyone with a better idea?

tbh i think it's pretty futile to "farm" drops. there will be thousands among thousands of people watching, and there are like 15-20 drops per game.


So.....i know the chances are very low....but still....anyone can enlighten me?

you will need multiple steam accounts, ideally over multiple PCs. not much else you can do. stack pennants i guess?



GAAAAAAAh.....thx anyways
EeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeTTeeeeeeeeeeee!
InfectedGoat
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada444 Posts
August 02 2013 13:02 GMT
#69973
Go Quantic!!! if they win the wildcard, I feel like most of the teams in groub B, especially IG ,Orange, lgd.int and Yongfu, will be unprepared to face their style
and i was like BANELINGS x 3
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 02 2013 13:07 GMT
#69974
On August 02 2013 21:53 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 21:47 Numy wrote:
Don't max aura first. That's a waste. Rather max Charge and Bash first. The damage you gain from aura isn't that high. First point in aura is really good but aside from that rather max it out later.

Dota is about more than simply 'more damage'.


Lol you don't have to be a condescending dick.

Leveling up aura gives 4% more MS per point. It goes from 6->18 in 4 points. Compared to bash which goes from 10% - 40% damage and 1 -> 1.6 stun. Charge goes from 600 -> 750 ms and 1.2-> 2.4.

Bash seems like an obvious choice to max out first so it's about level 1 aura to level 1 charge. This depends purely on your role in the team. If you playing some kind of offlane SB who is predominately not with the team the Aura will be largely wasted where as the charge ms/stun is pretty important to make it to your target in time. If playing a more central role which is with the team it makes more sense to have aura leveled out.

I thought I specified offlane SB but seems I did not.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 02 2013 13:09 GMT
#69975
On August 02 2013 22:07 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 21:53 Firebolt145 wrote:
On August 02 2013 21:47 Numy wrote:
Don't max aura first. That's a waste. Rather max Charge and Bash first. The damage you gain from aura isn't that high. First point in aura is really good but aside from that rather max it out later.

Dota is about more than simply 'more damage'.


Lol you don't have to be a condescending dick.

I thought I specified offlane SB but seems I did not.

you probably should correct your own mistakes before calling others pricks man
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
August 02 2013 13:11 GMT
#69976
Sorry, I did not post that with the intent of sounding condescending. I simply thought it would be an efficient way of getting my point across.
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ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
August 02 2013 13:12 GMT
#69977
On August 02 2013 21:53 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 21:47 Numy wrote:
Don't max aura first. That's a waste. Rather max Charge and Bash first. The damage you gain from aura isn't that high. First point in aura is really good but aside from that rather max it out later.

Dota is about more than simply 'more damage'.


Firebolt, ther'es next to no situation where you should be maxing aura over Bash or Charge.

You can ask Yango if you think its too much for us plebs to understand.
secret - never again
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 02 2013 13:13 GMT
#69978
On August 02 2013 22:07 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 21:53 Firebolt145 wrote:
On August 02 2013 21:47 Numy wrote:
Don't max aura first. That's a waste. Rather max Charge and Bash first. The damage you gain from aura isn't that high. First point in aura is really good but aside from that rather max it out later.

Dota is about more than simply 'more damage'.


Lol you don't have to be a condescending dick.

Leveling up aura gives 4% more MS per point. It goes from 6->18 in 4 points. Compared to bash which goes from 10% - 40% damage and 1 -> 1.6 stun. Charge goes from 600 -> 750 ms and 1.2-> 2.4.

Bash seems like an obvious choice to max out first so it's about level 1 aura to level 1 charge. This depends purely on your role in the team. If you playing some kind of offlane SB who is predominately not with the team the Aura will be largely wasted where as the charge ms/stun is pretty important to make it to your target in time. If playing a more central role which is with the team it makes more sense to have aura leveled out.

I thought I specified offlane SB but seems I did not.

If you are off laneing spirit breaker, you will still be ganking and the aura helps other team mates close that gap when you stun. The charge does not have a huge increase in the stun lenght unless you max it and the aura provides you with a flat speed boost that is present all the time.

To each their own, but there are real merits to having a faster SB, even when off laning.
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
August 02 2013 13:17 GMT
#69979
I like maxing charge because it doubles the stun duration and you run 33% faster.
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 02 2013 13:21 GMT
#69980
i go 1/1/3 maxing bash first since i want to kill the target as fast as I can. I want at least 1 kill per gank
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