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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 22 2013 17:43 GMT
#67621
On July 23 2013 02:42 kirsed wrote:
So apparently cwm got kicked from kaipi yesterday. Thoughts?

Source? And not suprised, that kid had a mouth on him.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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RoyGBiv_13
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1275 Posts
July 22 2013 17:44 GMT
#67622
Right clicking is a pretty good skill to have.
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
July 22 2013 17:44 GMT
#67623
On July 23 2013 02:43 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 02:42 kirsed wrote:
So apparently cwm got kicked from kaipi yesterday. Thoughts?

Source? And not suprised, that kid had a mouth on him.

A-God through Bulba.

On July 23 2013 02:35 Liquid`BuLba wrote:
[9:55:22 AM] Sam: where did
[9:55:23 AM] Artour: im sgo cvuci
[9:55:24 AM] Sam: cwm go?
[9:55:25 AM] Artour: ?
[9:55:26 AM] Sam: did u kick him
[9:55:29 AM] Artour: ye
[9:55:34 AM] Sam: really
[9:55:36 AM] Sam: when?
[9:55:40 AM] Artour: yesterday

Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-22 17:46:12
July 22 2013 17:45 GMT
#67624
And RTZ said releasing the info is fine. His performance was fine(or so I felt) so I think that it is either team chemistry/internal issues(he has a difficult personality to say the least) or difficulty finding sponsors.

sniped.
WriterXiao8~~
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
July 22 2013 17:48 GMT
#67625
On July 23 2013 02:45 Kipsate wrote:
And RTZ said releasing the info is fine. His performance was fine(or so I felt) so I think that it is either team chemistry/internal issues(he has a difficult personality to say the least) or difficulty finding sponsors.

sniped.

What about EE then?

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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-22 18:04:36
July 22 2013 17:49 GMT
#67626
EE has improved his demeanor quite a bit to my knowledge, he apologized to ESL etc. Sure he ain't the most loveable target of sponsors but he has been cleaning up a lot better , contrast to CMW who called ESL admins dicks and stuff.
WriterXiao8~~
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-22 17:51:06
July 22 2013 17:49 GMT
#67627
On July 23 2013 02:48 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 02:45 Kipsate wrote:
And RTZ said releasing the info is fine. His performance was fine(or so I felt) so I think that it is either team chemistry/internal issues(he has a difficult personality to say the least) or difficulty finding sponsors.

sniped.

What about EE then?

+ Show Spoiler +
SHOTS = FIRED

You can't gut your whole team all at once. It takes time to slowly remove the players that sponsors wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole.

Edit: also the ability to learn not to call admins dicks is an important skill to have.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Autotroph
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom940 Posts
July 22 2013 17:53 GMT
#67628
Inkeeping with both the Kaipi and Timbersaw discussion RTZ playing him against Navi on joindota stream right about now
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Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
July 22 2013 17:55 GMT
#67629
On July 23 2013 02:35 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 02:29 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
On July 23 2013 02:13 RuskiPanda wrote:
On July 23 2013 02:06 Plansix wrote:
On July 23 2013 02:01 Andr3 wrote:
Why is bragging looked down upon? I for one congratulate this fine TLer for his skill, I wish I would get carried I always lose in stacks.

Being humble is a virtue, much like being a team player. No one gets credit for playing the 5 slot Rubic and throwing themselves on the sword so the carry can get away from a gank.


That's a pretty self-destructive attitude though because then like 0-11 supports say they were just doing shit for the carry like #makingspace when in reality they were just caught out of position in the vicinity of the carry and got blown up. You also definitely don't want to be doing that shit on rubick since he actually scales with items fairly well and you don't want to be throwing away your gold that casually.


Two different discussions here. Your point is just about a bad support not knowing what effective use of his hero is and thinking he is doing well when he isn't, Plansix's point is about players taking appropriate amount of credit/blame; a well played support can be just as influential as a carry, but doesn't get those fun numbers attached.

As a support, I like to think of the hard carry as my child. At first they can't even farm without my help and I sack all my time and money into keep them alive. Then they grow up and get strong enough to go out into the world on their own. I tell them to be careful, watch out for ganks and try to make a place for themselves. I go off and focus on making up all the money I sunk into my carry and giving them space to grow. Then, after I am old, can no longer hold my own in battle and my time in the spotlight has passed, my carry returns, having fully bloomed into the death blossom I alway dream about and brings down the enemy team with the largest right clicks dota has to offer.

Being a support and raising a carry is a hard, thankless job.


Surprisingly accurate metaphor.
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
July 22 2013 18:18 GMT
#67630
2.6M prize pool. Immortal item inbound!
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canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
July 22 2013 18:34 GMT
#67631
On July 23 2013 02:55 Najda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 02:35 Plansix wrote:
On July 23 2013 02:29 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
On July 23 2013 02:13 RuskiPanda wrote:
On July 23 2013 02:06 Plansix wrote:
On July 23 2013 02:01 Andr3 wrote:
Why is bragging looked down upon? I for one congratulate this fine TLer for his skill, I wish I would get carried I always lose in stacks.

Being humble is a virtue, much like being a team player. No one gets credit for playing the 5 slot Rubic and throwing themselves on the sword so the carry can get away from a gank.


That's a pretty self-destructive attitude though because then like 0-11 supports say they were just doing shit for the carry like #makingspace when in reality they were just caught out of position in the vicinity of the carry and got blown up. You also definitely don't want to be doing that shit on rubick since he actually scales with items fairly well and you don't want to be throwing away your gold that casually.


Two different discussions here. Your point is just about a bad support not knowing what effective use of his hero is and thinking he is doing well when he isn't, Plansix's point is about players taking appropriate amount of credit/blame; a well played support can be just as influential as a carry, but doesn't get those fun numbers attached.

As a support, I like to think of the hard carry as my child. At first they can't even farm without my help and I sack all my time and money into keep them alive. Then they grow up and get strong enough to go out into the world on their own. I tell them to be careful, watch out for ganks and try to make a place for themselves. I go off and focus on making up all the money I sunk into my carry and giving them space to grow. Then, after I am old, can no longer hold my own in battle and my time in the spotlight has passed, my carry returns, having fully bloomed into the death blossom I alway dream about and brings down the enemy team with the largest right clicks dota has to offer.

Being a support and raising a carry is a hard, thankless job.


Surprisingly accurate metaphor.

Where do you think the word "babysitter" coming from? lol
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
July 22 2013 19:10 GMT
#67632
On July 23 2013 03:34 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 02:55 Najda wrote:
On July 23 2013 02:35 Plansix wrote:
On July 23 2013 02:29 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
On July 23 2013 02:13 RuskiPanda wrote:
On July 23 2013 02:06 Plansix wrote:
On July 23 2013 02:01 Andr3 wrote:
Why is bragging looked down upon? I for one congratulate this fine TLer for his skill, I wish I would get carried I always lose in stacks.

Being humble is a virtue, much like being a team player. No one gets credit for playing the 5 slot Rubic and throwing themselves on the sword so the carry can get away from a gank.


That's a pretty self-destructive attitude though because then like 0-11 supports say they were just doing shit for the carry like #makingspace when in reality they were just caught out of position in the vicinity of the carry and got blown up. You also definitely don't want to be doing that shit on rubick since he actually scales with items fairly well and you don't want to be throwing away your gold that casually.


Two different discussions here. Your point is just about a bad support not knowing what effective use of his hero is and thinking he is doing well when he isn't, Plansix's point is about players taking appropriate amount of credit/blame; a well played support can be just as influential as a carry, but doesn't get those fun numbers attached.

As a support, I like to think of the hard carry as my child. At first they can't even farm without my help and I sack all my time and money into keep them alive. Then they grow up and get strong enough to go out into the world on their own. I tell them to be careful, watch out for ganks and try to make a place for themselves. I go off and focus on making up all the money I sunk into my carry and giving them space to grow. Then, after I am old, can no longer hold my own in battle and my time in the spotlight has passed, my carry returns, having fully bloomed into the death blossom I alway dream about and brings down the enemy team with the largest right clicks dota has to offer.

Being a support and raising a carry is a hard, thankless job.


Surprisingly accurate metaphor.

Where do you think the word "babysitter" coming from? lol


Well babysitter is only capturing one part of the relationship.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
July 22 2013 19:32 GMT
#67633
On July 23 2013 04:10 Najda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 03:34 canikizu wrote:
On July 23 2013 02:55 Najda wrote:
On July 23 2013 02:35 Plansix wrote:
On July 23 2013 02:29 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
On July 23 2013 02:13 RuskiPanda wrote:
On July 23 2013 02:06 Plansix wrote:
On July 23 2013 02:01 Andr3 wrote:
Why is bragging looked down upon? I for one congratulate this fine TLer for his skill, I wish I would get carried I always lose in stacks.

Being humble is a virtue, much like being a team player. No one gets credit for playing the 5 slot Rubic and throwing themselves on the sword so the carry can get away from a gank.


That's a pretty self-destructive attitude though because then like 0-11 supports say they were just doing shit for the carry like #makingspace when in reality they were just caught out of position in the vicinity of the carry and got blown up. You also definitely don't want to be doing that shit on rubick since he actually scales with items fairly well and you don't want to be throwing away your gold that casually.


Two different discussions here. Your point is just about a bad support not knowing what effective use of his hero is and thinking he is doing well when he isn't, Plansix's point is about players taking appropriate amount of credit/blame; a well played support can be just as influential as a carry, but doesn't get those fun numbers attached.

As a support, I like to think of the hard carry as my child. At first they can't even farm without my help and I sack all my time and money into keep them alive. Then they grow up and get strong enough to go out into the world on their own. I tell them to be careful, watch out for ganks and try to make a place for themselves. I go off and focus on making up all the money I sunk into my carry and giving them space to grow. Then, after I am old, can no longer hold my own in battle and my time in the spotlight has passed, my carry returns, having fully bloomed into the death blossom I alway dream about and brings down the enemy team with the largest right clicks dota has to offer.

Being a support and raising a carry is a hard, thankless job.


Surprisingly accurate metaphor.

Where do you think the word "babysitter" coming from? lol


Well babysitter is only capturing one part of the relationship.

Becuz reality is the other part where the dude grows up and repay you only happen 50/50.
Chances are the dude will run into the whole enemies and leave you in agony.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
July 22 2013 19:36 GMT
#67634
Rod Breslau ‏@Slasher
Blizzard announces they'll be holding each of the WCS S2 Regional finals (NA, EU, KR) on the same weekend. Same time as The International 3.


Rofl. Good luck Blizzard.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 22 2013 19:37 GMT
#67635
On July 23 2013 04:32 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 04:10 Najda wrote:
On July 23 2013 03:34 canikizu wrote:
On July 23 2013 02:55 Najda wrote:
On July 23 2013 02:35 Plansix wrote:
On July 23 2013 02:29 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
On July 23 2013 02:13 RuskiPanda wrote:
On July 23 2013 02:06 Plansix wrote:
On July 23 2013 02:01 Andr3 wrote:
Why is bragging looked down upon? I for one congratulate this fine TLer for his skill, I wish I would get carried I always lose in stacks.

Being humble is a virtue, much like being a team player. No one gets credit for playing the 5 slot Rubic and throwing themselves on the sword so the carry can get away from a gank.


That's a pretty self-destructive attitude though because then like 0-11 supports say they were just doing shit for the carry like #makingspace when in reality they were just caught out of position in the vicinity of the carry and got blown up. You also definitely don't want to be doing that shit on rubick since he actually scales with items fairly well and you don't want to be throwing away your gold that casually.


Two different discussions here. Your point is just about a bad support not knowing what effective use of his hero is and thinking he is doing well when he isn't, Plansix's point is about players taking appropriate amount of credit/blame; a well played support can be just as influential as a carry, but doesn't get those fun numbers attached.

As a support, I like to think of the hard carry as my child. At first they can't even farm without my help and I sack all my time and money into keep them alive. Then they grow up and get strong enough to go out into the world on their own. I tell them to be careful, watch out for ganks and try to make a place for themselves. I go off and focus on making up all the money I sunk into my carry and giving them space to grow. Then, after I am old, can no longer hold my own in battle and my time in the spotlight has passed, my carry returns, having fully bloomed into the death blossom I alway dream about and brings down the enemy team with the largest right clicks dota has to offer.

Being a support and raising a carry is a hard, thankless job.


Surprisingly accurate metaphor.

Where do you think the word "babysitter" coming from? lol


Well babysitter is only capturing one part of the relationship.

Becuz reality is the other part where the dude grows up and repay you only happen 50/50.
Chances are the dude will run into the whole enemies and leave you in agony.

Yeah, well not all children grow up to be everything their parents wanted them to be. Some of them get ganked in college, drop out and are forced to buy a BKB cause they can't farm up a manta style without getting ganked.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9381 Posts
July 22 2013 19:39 GMT
#67636
On July 23 2013 04:36 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
Rod Breslau ‏@Slasher
Blizzard announces they'll be holding each of the WCS S2 Regional finals (NA, EU, KR) on the same weekend. Same time as The International 3.


Rofl. Good luck Blizzard.



Why in the world would a company decide to do this? Are they just trying to hurt their numbers as much as possible?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-22 19:47:50
July 22 2013 19:43 GMT
#67637
On July 23 2013 04:39 kirsed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 04:36 Grettin wrote:
Rod Breslau ‏@Slasher
Blizzard announces they'll be holding each of the WCS S2 Regional finals (NA, EU, KR) on the same weekend. Same time as The International 3.


Rofl. Good luck Blizzard.



Why in the world would a company decide to do this? Are they just trying to hurt their numbers as much as possible?

Limited number of venues. Also, its in Korea, so it might not be a problem since TI3 it comming out of pacific time.

Edit: Ok, ever mind, all three are running that weekend. That is just weird and I don't know why they are doing that.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9381 Posts
July 22 2013 19:53 GMT
#67638
I just don't see this being good for anyone. It's not like it's two separate groups of gamers it's not some speed runners live event and sc2 or something. In my mind it's probably the two fan bases that share the most amount of people between communities. I just can't comprehend what is going on in their brains.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
July 22 2013 19:54 GMT
#67639
its pretty dumb from Blizzard, like, SC2 isn't what it used to be, and TI3 is pretty much the biggest ESPORTS event like, ever
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
July 22 2013 19:54 GMT
#67640
Luckily we can watch in client, cause twitch will be unreachable
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