EPTIf your team is actually willing to fight, or you're ahead enough that real combat items will give you enough strength to solo-kill those will both be better.
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
If your team is actually willing to fight, or you're ahead enough that real combat items will give you enough strength to solo-kill those will both be better. | ||
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ChunderBoy
3242 Posts
On July 19 2013 02:30 akatama wrote: Why do people get Medallion on BH? I know the item is good in general, lets you Rosh really fast and all, but I really question it on BH. I'd rather have a faster Drums/Vlads and have someone else pick it up. - armour / manaregen id rather have that over an early vlads... | ||
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Incze
Romania2058 Posts
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akatama
Romania982 Posts
On July 19 2013 02:39 Incze wrote: It's because bh wants to blow people up really fast then gtfo. Medallion helps with the blowing up part and windwalk covers your lack of armor, allowing you to use medallion at no cost Medallion breaks invis, so you lose that bonus dmg. Yes, a Jinada + some right clicks with the -6 armor will hit harder overall, but 1k is a lot of gold early on. Edit: ok, I'm gonna math it out. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 19 2013 03:17 akatama wrote: Medallion breaks invis, so you lose that bonus dmg. Yes, a Jinada + some right clicks with the -6 armor will hit harder overall, but 1k is a lot of gold early on. But with an early BH, you are rarely trying to gank solo and the medallion helps other team mates do damage as well. You can just dump it on them after you break stealth and then nail them with the ministun while they try and run. Then you and the rest of them team can finish them off. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
dagon3 at 13mins = gg and you dont even need a boots. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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CuddlyCuteKitten
Sweden2889 Posts
I just played a tiny + brew dual lane that later progressed to roaming and I must say it was the most fun dota I've had in a looooooong time. Just utterly insane if not always effective fighting and ganking the entire time. Any similar pairs of heroes? | ||
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phos4
Germany226 Posts
why are phaseboots so predominant on Spectre? She already got noclip with dagger, and her low stats grows and general lategame power make her feel more like powertreads for me. Alchemist on the other hand sees a lot of powertreads, but he already got insane attackspeed and lacks mobility. So why no Phaseboots on him? | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
On July 19 2013 03:29 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote: What would you say were some really fun pairs of heroes in a semi trollish way? I just played a tiny + brew dual lane that later progressed to roaming and I must say it was the most fun dota I've had in a looooooong time. Just utterly insane if not always effective fighting and ganking the entire time. Any similar pairs of heroes? Tiny + anyone who needs blink OR pudge is funny in that way :D | ||
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Excludos
Norway8279 Posts
On July 19 2013 03:29 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote: What would you say were some really fun pairs of heroes in a semi trollish way? I just played a tiny + brew dual lane that later progressed to roaming and I must say it was the most fun dota I've had in a looooooong time. Just utterly insane if not always effective fighting and ganking the entire time. Any similar pairs of heroes? Tiny centaur is a ridiculous lane. Toss, stun, avalanche, double edge, 100% dead. Another one I found just recently is Lina + disruptor. The damage coming out of those two makes it impossible to even stay inside xp range.. Otherwise you have the usual ones: Jugger + Veno, Veno + Undying, wisp + chaos knight, kotl + PL, etc | ||
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akatama
Romania982 Posts
TLDR: I should start considering Medallion on BH. Sorry for wasting your time.  | ||
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Klonere
Ireland4123 Posts
On July 19 2013 03:30 phos4 wrote: I have two questions regarding boots: why are phaseboots so predominant on Spectre? She already got noclip with dagger, and her low stats grows and general lategame power make her feel more like powertreads for me. Alchemist on the other hand sees a lot of powertreads, but he already got insane attackspeed and lacks mobility. So why no Phaseboots on him? modern spectre usually picks up drums. drums phase plus dagger equals some disgusting chasing power as well as lets her get away from ganks that bit easier. the damage boost is nothing to be sniffed at either and as i mentioned modern spectre's usually try to get drums phase up then snowball mid-game off haunt assist/kill gold, either going back for a radiance or diffu. once a team loses two teamfights to a drums phase spectre game gets really really hard for the losing team. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On July 19 2013 03:30 phos4 wrote: I have two questions regarding boots: why are phaseboots so predominant on Spectre? She already got noclip with dagger, and her low stats grows and general lategame power make her feel more like powertreads for me. The thing is that she's a hero with no actual blink skill and who rarely gets BKB, so having 522 MS is essential for proper teamfight mobility. She has her ultimate to choose an engagement angle, but this is a one-time thing, and in many cases she needs to still engage first without ultimate, and then use the ult later. Treads are situationally OK against teams where you don't need the chasing/power mobility against heroes that will just fight it out against you, but in most practical scenarios you need Phase to get around. On July 19 2013 03:30 phos4 wrote: Alchemist on the other hand sees a lot of powertreads, but he already got insane attackspeed and lacks mobility. So why no Phaseboots on him? Alchemist does get Phase Boots more often than Treads. | ||
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Animzor
Sweden2154 Posts
On July 19 2013 03:29 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote: What would you say were some really fun pairs of heroes in a semi trollish way? I just played a tiny + brew dual lane that later progressed to roaming and I must say it was the most fun dota I've had in a looooooong time. Just utterly insane if not always effective fighting and ganking the entire time. Any similar pairs of heroes? Dark Seer + Batrider ridiculous combo | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
really super gimmicky tho | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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