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solidbebe
Netherlands4921 Posts
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On June 24 2013 02:50 Qbek wrote: They max orb Yeah. Damn it all. No wonder Battlefury is just about the most common item on BH. | ||
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
On June 24 2013 02:49 FuzzyJAM wrote: How the fuck does OD have a sub-50% win rate? Carry mid that pretty much can't lose his lane should be the ideal pubstomper. At least, that's what I find for myself. . . doesn't lose his lane != autowin game there's 4 other people on his team who may feed, 4 other people on the other team who may faceroll od's team and nyx | ||
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Fwizzz
Philippines4420 Posts
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On June 24 2013 03:03 DoNotDisturb wrote: doesn't lose his lane != autowin game there's 4 other people on his team who may feed, 4 other people on the other team who may faceroll od's team and nyx Why are you only addressing one of the three qualities I listed? The important part is the combination of qualities. Winning mid as a semi-carry or ganker or w/e isn't as big, plus none win it as well as OD, but destroying your lane without relying on anyone else as a carry is really huge and should happen almost every time. Pros can of course work around this, but pubs will almost certainly not. He's really the ideal pubstomper. People failing with him is based on them playing him totally wrongly despite him hardly being some super high skill hero. Of course sometimes your team feeds too much for you to do anything, but that happens the same regardless of hero, so that doesn't explain anything about win% difference. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 24 2013 03:03 FuzzyJAM wrote: Yeah. Damn it all. No wonder Battlefury is just about the most common item on BH. The display on Dotabuff is bugged. It lists Orb max as the most common, but if you actually tab over to Builds, the "normal" Astral/Aura max builds actually have higher build rate. The 3 most common builds are all correctly 1-4-4-1 at level 10. More telling is the fact that Tranquil Boots, Mekansm, and Drums all have extremely low build rate compared to a lot of items that really aren't that good on him (Aghanim's and Atos stand out). | ||
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AwfuL_
Netherlands6976 Posts
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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sc_a.M
420 Posts
Is there a consol reconnect like in hon when the game fails to show the reconnect sign? | ||
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
On June 24 2013 04:24 sc_a.M wrote: MAN fuck what are these reconnect bugs, IAM 100% certainly still within the 5 min but it doesn't show reconnect button, I don't care about leave as already 1 team mate is out, but we were owning 4vs5 and I was solo attacking the rax and right then I disconnect and can't reconnect (internet on the whole time). Twice in two days, valve get your shit together srsly, u bastards. Is there a consol reconnect like in hon when the game fails to show the reconnect sign? Maybe try restarting steam if that happens, worked for me before | ||
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Andre
Slovenia3523 Posts
On June 24 2013 03:45 AwfuL_ wrote: I'm pretty sure OD loses plenty of lanes looking at the most popular build. And even when lower skilled players randomly max Astral they might still autoattack the creepwave or keep feeding that riki/bountyhunter/ursa/huskar during the mid game because they stack nulls instead of getting a forcestaff. Bottomline is OD is just not a simple hero to play when you're not decent at DotA, which the majority of players isn't. Yes, yes people lose lanes because they make shitty builds. No. | ||
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Infernal_dream
United States2359 Posts
On June 24 2013 04:30 Andr3 wrote: Yes, yes people lose lanes because they make shitty builds. No. OD is too glass cannony for a lot of people to play. They try to rush in first or don't pay attention the map and get ganked. And if there's a nyx assassin on the enemy team that can keep up in levels you're pretty fucked. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 24 2013 04:34 Infernal_dream wrote: OD is too glass cannony for a lot of people to play. They try to rush in first or don't pay attention the map and get ganked. And if there's a nyx assassin on the enemy team that can keep up in levels you're pretty fucked. That doesn't explain it because there are a lot of pub heroes that have this same weakness (Zeus is #4 highest winrate in pubs, for example, Luna and Drow are both top 15 and are higher than any other Agi carry). It really is that people don't play him correctly. | ||
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Klonere
Ireland4123 Posts
i want to watch but i dont want to watch | ||
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Grettin
42416 Posts
On June 24 2013 05:34 Klonere wrote: dear god solo is actually streaming i want to watch but i dont want to watch Gotta get that betting money from somewhere. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
Needs farm He has no escape Is squishy Is terrible to play with when playing from behind Has no real nuke Is reliable on his laning phase to do well(So you need to lasthit well and yes for a noob even that is hard with OD) Has very little mobility Has to build items like Tranq and Meka/Force staff, you have to get utility items on him, newer players will not know how to use those utility items well enough or even when to get them(what is dissassemble?) Zeus is straightforward because he just has nukes and people die without farm. | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
Zeus can literally be played "don't die and wait for people to ask for your ulti" and you will be getting loads of kills at low level play. Even if not you can just straightforward click on people with your spells to make them die really fast. OD is rocket science in comparison. You have to skill the passive first which is a no-no on pretty much every hero. Alternatively you skill the non-damaging non-stunning skill second which is still really unintuitive. Also a wrongly used astral prison does more bad than good. To do good damage you need to be ahead or even on experience and items, for both the orb attack and the ultimate. | ||
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Geisterkarle
Germany3257 Posts
I never saw a Rubick stealing a Relocate! Did anyone see such a spell steal? Would like to see a relocating Rubick; would be really fun - and really strong I think! | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
OD is a hero that is hard to be successful with in pubs for the reasons you stated, and not just to do with being a glass-cannon hero. | ||
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