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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
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AwfuL_
Netherlands6976 Posts
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
On June 11 2013 21:02 Tobberoth wrote: Unless Kunkka has a cast animation of about a second and you have the reaction time to run out of the boat AOE in a few milliseconds (while slowed), I really don't see how this is possible. Torrent is 3.5 sec, boat takes 3 sec, there's literally no margin to move. I don't know how you're testing it, but it should be literally impossible. I think you quoted the wrong guy would 100% support support kunk though | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
I tried not maxing tidebringer first, but the problem is level 4 tidebringer is vastly better than the other levels, and without that reliable damage you're vastly weaker in lane. I prefer to max x after tidebringer (with 1 torrent), but in a lane with a setup (shadow demon), it's hard to pass up on extra torrent damage. Without a setup partner, level 3 x means you get reliable boat hits. Boat damage was 300, now 350, so being able to reliably hit a boat provides much more damage per skill point than leveling torrent. Level 1 is pretty bad, partially because the his cast animation (which isn't terrible, but it's enough that 1 second becomes .6, etc.). It has no use other than chasing and canceling tps. One problem with boat is you can't be too close. The boat will always travel 1000 range behind to 1000 range in front, so if you're in melee range, you won't get the boat off. If you level x, you can actually x then ran backwards a little to help place it. Not sure when x boat torrent is better than x torrent boat. I kind of like x boat better because it has a much larger aoe and it feels easier to maximize the stuns. If you x torrent boat, I guess it's x, .5 second cast backswing if you don't cancel (.5) .4 second cast animation, torrent, .5 second (1.4) .4 second cast animation, boat, .5 second (2.3) torrent hits (3.4) torrent stuns ends (4.93) boat hits (4.8) | ||
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cheeseosaur
Australia134 Posts
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Mythra
New Zealand274 Posts
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
On June 11 2013 22:01 cheeseosaur wrote: are there any guides/rules on the amount of gold you lose when you die? There is a guide somewhere on this forum but I cant find it because it has a weird name. It's titled something like "why is that chinese noob banking 6k?" | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On June 11 2013 22:01 Mythra wrote: Anyone know why Dendi has 18k viewers on his stream? Does he normally get up this high? He's basically always the highest Dota streamer when he's on. He's probably the most popular player on both side of the European divide so it's not surprising. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
On June 11 2013 22:01 Mythra wrote: Anyone know why Dendi has 18k viewers on his stream? Does he normally get up this high? He's usually around 10k, but it's not super unusual to spike that high. sometimes it does spike that high. The highest he ever had was like 35k, but that was right after Na'Vi's new roster was announced and they streamed their scrims. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On June 11 2013 22:01 cheeseosaur wrote: are there any guides/rules on the amount of gold you lose when you die? 30g/lvl ? And only from non reliable gold | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On June 11 2013 22:01 cheeseosaur wrote: are there any guides/rules on the amount of gold you lose when you die? Of course, Dota 2 wiki to the rescue: http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/Gold Every time you die you lose 30×(Level of your Hero) unreliable gold; the only way to reduce this amount is with a Bloodstone (you'll lose 25 gold less for every Bloodstone charge). Dying cannot take away reliable gold. Personally I was quite surprised when I looked these facts up a while ago, you lose way more gold than I imagined. Just think about it, already at level 10 you lose 300 gold. Knowing how to handle your unreliable gold is key to having a good GPM consistently. | ||
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nojok
France15846 Posts
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
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ch33psh33p
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
The tweet linked above says: "Looks like Kaipi was caught fakenicking. It's been a while since we had to worry about that... :p" I wonder if it was somebody outside their team or if it was just some "sneaky" roleswaps. | ||
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Grettin
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Klonere
Ireland4123 Posts
i guess they had multiple people unable to turn up or something and our only source here is a maelk tweet as well | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
I'm not really jumping to any conclusions I'm just curious to hear more than maelk's idle comments. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On June 11 2013 23:59 Klonere wrote: seems really stupid and unlikely, everyone knows rtz can't play a lot of SL and EU matches in general with being in high school and 9000km + away from most of the people he's playing against, so standins are expected. i guess they had multiple people unable to turn up or something and our only source here is a maelk tweet as well The ''standin'' had a considerable difference in ping which was impossible if it was the actual standin. anyway roll out the popcorn machines people. | ||
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