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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On June 11 2013 19:52 cecek wrote: Early on in lane you're using the torrent to just harass, so you don't care about X, because you're not getting a kill with it, anyway. That's my logic behind it, anyway. i thought the logic is to get an ensure hit on torrent to set up for boat damage at level 6? | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
On June 11 2013 19:56 NB wrote: i thought the logic is to get an ensure hit on torrent to set up for boat damage at level 6? If you want to do that, you need 2 levels of X. And if you have 2 levels of X, your tidebringer and torrent are too low level so you'll get outharrassed so much you probably can't go for the kill, anyway. Of course that's not truth for all matchups, but against most one level of torrent and level of tidebringer just doesn't nearly do enough to keep you in the lane. btw, I think we'll see Na'Vi pick kunkka against VP tonight, Dendi is mass picking him in pubs.  | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On June 11 2013 19:57 Dead9 wrote: u can't consistently x boat torrent w/o 3 x 2 x is enough to reliably pull off torrent action. | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On June 11 2013 19:57 Dead9 wrote: u can't consistently x boat torrent w/o 3 x Pretty sure you go x -> torrent -> boat, which becomes perfectly reliable at lvl 2 X. | ||
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Aixler
Netherlands946 Posts
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
you have to boat x torrent from the fog (or in vision if they don't react at all lol) lv3 x lets you x boat torrent which is much more reliable | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
you have to torrent right after x with lv2 x, so you have to boat before x. if you boat after the torrent you overshoot, and they have a few seconds after torrent to dodge anyway | ||
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Unattended Cake
United States877 Posts
On June 11 2013 19:06 rabidch wrote: it has always been a 0 bonus damage to summoned units/illusions purge Really? I remember purging them to death one game. Was a while ago though, maybe two major patches before this one. Oh well, guess it doesn't happen anymore. | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On June 11 2013 20:26 Dead9 wrote: er basically lv2 x doesn't last long enough and doesn't have enough range to connect with boat you have to torrent right after x with lv2 x, so you have to boat before x. if you boat after the torrent you overshoot, and they have a few seconds after torrent to dodge anyway That sounds incorrect to me. Torrent has 2 sec delay and stuns for 1.5 seconds. Boat takes 3.07 seconds to connect. It should thus be a reliable hit in all cases if you cast boat immediately after you cast torrent, as long as the opponent is hit by torrent (which is guaranteed by starting with a lvl 2 X). | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On June 11 2013 20:26 Dead9 wrote: er basically lv2 x doesn't last long enough and doesn't have enough range to connect with boat you have to torrent right after x with lv2 x, so you have to boat before x. if you boat after the torrent you overshoot, and they have a few seconds after torrent to dodge anyway Uh, i have no problem comboing it so boat lands right after torrent ends(0.3~0.5 second later) with level 2 x o_o | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
weird i thot u could dodge it by walking toward kunkka edit: also sd purge does ohko warlock golem | ||
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anonymitylol
Canada4477 Posts
On June 11 2013 20:26 Dead9 wrote: er basically lv2 x doesn't last long enough and doesn't have enough range to connect with boat you have to torrent right after x with lv2 x, so you have to boat before x. if you boat after the torrent you overshoot, and they have a few seconds after torrent to dodge anyway You know there's a reason that professional Kunkka players get 2 into x and leave it there as long as possible, right? If you cast x and torrent immediately after, it's a guaranteed torrent hit. If you cast a boat right after the torrent was cast, it's a guaranteed boat hit due to the x/torrent stun duration. | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
2, 3, and 4 are all pretty common it does take 3 x to x boat torrent and 4 x gives you some bonus range to work with | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
with boots you can dodge by running toward kunkka also pre boat aoe buff you can dodge w/o boots by running toward kunkka | ||
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ReignSupreme.
Australia4123 Posts
just read that stumpy and trusty yak are retired and now classed as immortal... i have a yak with some effect on it and a regular ol' stumpy | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On June 11 2013 20:14 Aixler wrote: dendi playing a lot of kunkka today, odds of na'vi picking him tonight vs vp are high! More like Ancient Apparition 100%. | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On June 11 2013 20:59 ReignSupreme. wrote: need that support kunkka action, free recall whaddup Unless Kunkka has a cast animation of about a second and you have the reaction time to run out of the boat AOE in a few milliseconds (while slowed), I really don't see how this is possible. Torrent is 3.5 sec, boat takes 3 sec, there's literally no margin to move. I don't know how you're testing it, but it should be literally impossible. | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
kunkka has a .4s cast animation so you have like .5~1s to move, not sure on the exact number but it's a bit also boat doesn't land on top of lv2 x, it overshoots | ||
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