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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
June 11 2013 15:18 GMT
#61441
http://www.joindota.com/en/news/9887-kaipi-caught-fakenicking-in-ems-one

What's weird is that apparently you have to have at least 3 americans to be able to participate in EMS Americas. But KP's roster is 3 Europeans - Bone7, cwm and Pieliedie; and 2 Canadians - rtz and ee. So why were they allowed in first place?

If I understand it right, bone7 (KP's member) fakenicked as Lust (american, non-KP member). This is really weird, what the fuck...
super gg
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
June 11 2013 15:21 GMT
#61442
On June 12 2013 00:18 cecek wrote:
http://www.joindota.com/en/news/9887-kaipi-caught-fakenicking-in-ems-one

What's weird is that apparently you have to have at least 3 americans to be able to participate in EMS Americas. But KP's roster is 3 Europeans - Bone7, cwm and Pieliedie; and 2 Canadians - rtz and ee. So why were they allowed in first place?

If I understand it right, bone7 (KP's member) fakenicked as Lust (american, non-KP member). This is really weird, what the fuck...

They played as if Lust was in their roster, so they had 3 NA players and were allowed to compete. It's the same thing some teams did at WCG, playing regional competitions with standins isn't new. The issue is they didn't actually play with Lust.
yyfpulls
Profile Joined November 2012
United States2185 Posts
June 11 2013 15:21 GMT
#61443
Why the did the admins allow Kaipi to play all the way through the qualifiers in the first place?! They can't just enforce this retroactively this is bullshit.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
June 11 2013 15:24 GMT
#61444
On June 12 2013 00:21 yyfpulls wrote:
Why the did the admins allow Kaipi to play all the way through the qualifiers in the first place?! They can't just enforce this retroactively this is bullshit.

They officially only allowed Kaipi to play with Lust, which would be fine. CWM was saying some admin said something else, but even if that's true the rules are the same. Players caught fakenicking are obviously punished retroactively, that's how it works.
yyfpulls
Profile Joined November 2012
United States2185 Posts
June 11 2013 15:55 GMT
#61445
On June 12 2013 00:24 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 00:21 yyfpulls wrote:
Why the did the admins allow Kaipi to play all the way through the qualifiers in the first place?! They can't just enforce this retroactively this is bullshit.

They officially only allowed Kaipi to play with Lust, which would be fine. CWM was saying some admin said something else, but even if that's true the rules are the same. Players caught fakenicking are obviously punished retroactively, that's how it works.


Yes but the admins allowing them to play the finals with bone7 in the roster should never have happened in the first place. The admin overseeing the matches and EMS screwed up and Kaipi should not have to suffer for it. They earned it.
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
June 11 2013 16:07 GMT
#61446
On June 12 2013 00:55 yyfpulls wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 00:24 SKC wrote:
On June 12 2013 00:21 yyfpulls wrote:
Why the did the admins allow Kaipi to play all the way through the qualifiers in the first place?! They can't just enforce this retroactively this is bullshit.

They officially only allowed Kaipi to play with Lust, which would be fine. CWM was saying some admin said something else, but even if that's true the rules are the same. Players caught fakenicking are obviously punished retroactively, that's how it works.


Yes but the admins allowing them to play the finals with bone7 in the roster should never have happened in the first place. The admin overseeing the matches and EMS screwed up and Kaipi should not have to suffer for it. They earned it.


One doesn't cross out the other. They earned it through illegal means, thus they should still be punished.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 11 2013 16:12 GMT
#61447
We have a thread about this now. No reason to split the discussion two ways.
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
June 11 2013 16:13 GMT
#61448
I am betting it is a PR trick to make more moneynoises for ESL, especially Maelk is the one who leaked it first >_>
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
June 11 2013 16:15 GMT
#61449
On June 12 2013 01:13 BurningSera wrote:
I am betting it is a PR trick to make more moneynoises for ESL, especially Maelk is the one who leaked it first >_>

.. What? How?
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Mambo
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark1338 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-11 16:21:18
June 11 2013 16:19 GMT
#61450
I don't know if I should make a separate bug thread so I have decided to test the waters here.

Have you ever noticed these two things?

[image loading]
http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/8238/bugone.jpg
[image loading]
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/852/bugtwo.jpg
I have died several times top because my hero tried to go around the tower instead of just going straight in between the trees and the tower.

So are these pathing bugs or am I just seeing things? If they are bugs, have they already been reported, and if not where do I report them?
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
June 11 2013 16:21 GMT
#61451
On June 12 2013 01:15 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 01:13 BurningSera wrote:
I am betting it is a PR trick to make more moneynoises for ESL, especially Maelk is the one who leaked it first >_>

.. What? How?


Just a far fetched joke conspiracy from me, raidcall sponsored esl, and why would Maelk be the first one to leak this >_> It wouldn't be that much of noises if maelk didnt say a word. EG's PR, drama drama drama, attentions.

Now lets move on to the proper thread to discuss this.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
June 11 2013 16:26 GMT
#61452
On June 12 2013 01:19 Mambo wrote:
I don't know if I should make a separate bug thread so I have decided to test the waters here.

Have you ever noticed these two things?
So are these pathing bugs or am I just seeing things? If they are bugs, have they already been reported, and if not where do I report them?

I get the bottom one all the time. I'm assuming my unit runs towards the end goal as directly as possible until its diverted. Pretty dumb tbh. Never had the first one by top tower but I can see dying to that.

I think its just a Quirk rather than a bug but you can go complain on dev.dota2.com if you want
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Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
June 11 2013 16:31 GMT
#61453
The pathing in general still is somewhat off in comparison to wc3.
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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
June 11 2013 16:39 GMT
#61454
Wtf happened?
That jd article is written absolute terrible.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
June 11 2013 16:43 GMT
#61455
Just as I could get a chance to watch pro-dota again... drama. Drama everywhere.
EZ4ENCE
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-11 16:47:50
June 11 2013 16:47 GMT
#61456
So if I got it right they got disqualified for using their normal roster?

Well, at least that something new.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-11 16:48:42
June 11 2013 16:48 GMT
#61457
On June 12 2013 01:39 Yoshi- wrote:
Wtf happened?
That jd article is written absolute terrible.


At all costs, avoid visiting the JoinDota website.

There is a thread with semi-decent info in this Dota 2 General section, go read it.

E: well you edited fast
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BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
June 11 2013 16:49 GMT
#61458
On June 12 2013 01:19 Mambo wrote:
I don't know if I should make a separate bug thread so I have decided to test the waters here.

Have you ever noticed these two things?

**cut**
I have died several times top because my hero tried to go around the tower instead of just going straight in between the trees and the tower.

So are these pathing bugs or am I just seeing things? If they are bugs, have they already been reported, and if not where do I report them?


Yeah, I've noticed this as well. Unfortunatly dota2 pathing is horrible, but we need more hats !
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 11 2013 16:53 GMT
#61459
Because artists would totally be able to fix the pathing!

Related to the "bug", my guess is the second one is related to the fix a while back where pathing blockers in the FoW don't cause you to re-path until you run into them. It's probably including tree formations as part of this when it shouldn't, so it doesn't realize the straight-line path to where you click is actually blocked until you run into that tree formation.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
June 11 2013 16:53 GMT
#61460
Well, the question is how closely should Dota2 emulate Dota1's pathing?

Probably should just go in the route of "the better the pathing, the more we should emulate it." I dont have too many problems with pathing, however.
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