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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Okay that really doesn't sound like the direction IF is going with BKB but it feels better (to me) than "can't sell". | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 05 2013 04:07 Slardar wrote: That actually sounds fun to do...Armlet on PA. Armlet of Mordiggian just too WoDota. The rage when you turn armlet off but don't die because you evade the killing blow... | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/NZHWARA.png) while 1 or 2 from the 3 losses were caused by stupid stuff. I have a completely different understanding of the hero after doing this build on her, why would you want to go farmfest with the hero who can ditch out 200+ damage at Lvl6 and can snowball into a 800dmg dps machine at 18mins with only a Basher as her main damage source. The definitive Battle PA: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/lHAq4TY.png) Notice that sickening CS (basically you only farm during laning phase) in a 25mins game. Guide Coming Soon TM! | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
The point of poor mans shield,phase,drums,magic wand PA is to fight.Urn is kinda meh as usually a support or mid gets it,drums is just too good on her. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 05 2013 04:22 TheKefka wrote: I mean you aren't discovering America here. The point of poor mans shield,phase,drums,magic wand PA is to fight.Urn is kinda meh,drums is just too good. Urn is really good on PA. It's basically the most practical form of regen for a hero that expects to fight in the 6-12 minute time frame. Lifesteal and plain regen are both cost-inefficient as combat stats, while Urn is barely paying anything for the active and the heal also doubles as a combat skill. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On June 05 2013 04:22 TheKefka wrote: I mean you aren't discovering America here. The point of poor mans shield,phase,drums,magic wand PA is to fight.Urn is kinda meh as usually a support or mid gets it,drums is just too good on her. The secret is exactly with that urn, otherwise I wouldn't bother with posting that huehue. PMS/Drum on the other hand, believe it or not, are merely delaying your big damage item or that BKB. Yango talked about the drum so i am not gonna repeat again; PMS is just delaying your phase/urn, if you needed a shield during laning phase then the chances is you are not farming well with or without it, if you said you need it for the team fight then its cost-effectiveness drops too quick and you die or kill very quickly with or without it anyway. PA is a hero who is all about how and when to engaging in any fight. Early game Blink is for sure kill (there is no turning back after you blinked while Mid game blink can be used as an initiation. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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cilinder007
Slovenia7251 Posts
On June 05 2013 04:24 BurningSera wrote: The secret is exactly with that urn, otherwise I wouldn't bother with posting that huehue. so what would you do if someone already built the urn before you, like a pudge or ns | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
poor mans->stick phase->wand drums-> basher(if there isn't too much need for a bkb), bkb rush is the standard with good reason now.Only thing I'm not sure about is if vlads or hotd is better,i kinda think vlads is better for pubs | ||
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cilinder007
Slovenia7251 Posts
On June 05 2013 04:29 TheKefka wrote: I don't think urn is that great,it's really really easy to build up on a support(and does more for them than you) so if you really want it you can get it that way.Drums is just too good on her idk,build both would be pretty awkward and you get slot starved insanely quickly. poor mans->stick phase->wand drums->vlads hot or basher(if there isn't too much need for a bkb), bkb rush is the standard with good reason now. in pubs I wouldnt expect supports to get an urn and go fight with me when they should | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On June 05 2013 04:29 cilinder007 wrote: so what would you do if someone already built the urn before you, like a pudge or ns Still looking for a solution tbh, the best way is just simply two of you walk together 24/7 or you can use an earlier Vlad but the thing is you can probably working through your big item quicker without spending on that urn but urn is just too damn good. Ganking gives you charges, use the charges for farming jungle for awhile when needed and then you are ready to team fight again. On June 05 2013 04:27 FinestHour wrote: disgusting pa picker ur worse then rabidshikyoch I am so going to mention shikyo in my guide <3 didnt know rabid hearts PA though. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 05 2013 04:29 cilinder007 wrote: so what would you do if someone already built the urn before you, like a pudge or ns Realistically that should never happen unless you're really behind (in which case Urn might not be a good choice for you anyway) or the enemy mid got completely crushed. Your mid has to go through Bottle to get to Urn, and freefarm safe lane should naturally get more CS than mid. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On June 05 2013 04:29 TheKefka wrote: I don't think urn is that great,it's really really easy to build up on a support(and does more for them than you) so if you really want it you can get it that way.Drums is just too good on her idk,build both would be pretty awkward and you get slot starved insanely quickly. poor mans->stick phase->wand drums-> basher(if there isn't too much need for a bkb), bkb rush is the standard with good reason now.Only thing I'm not sure about is if vlads or hotd is better,i kinda think vlads is better for pubs For the drum part, the poster named yango explained it better lol The function of the urn would be pretty meh if it merely worked like what you said, the STR components in Urn is huge on PA. Yup I also use a beefy skill build for the Battle PA xD http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=128824668 With this skill build you have 1480hp at Lvl13 with Drum+Urn (iirc). | ||
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wairai
Malaysia1000 Posts
 people wont suspect the pa going to be the aggresor at lvl 6 with phase and rob or urn | ||
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Slardar
Canada7596 Posts
You can stack ancients yourself properly every time, and have a proper buildup later in the game if it drags on which pubs tend to. I'd much rather hound one of the supports to buy a Vlad later on and keep my HotD/Satanic. | ||
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cilinder007
Slovenia7251 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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wairai
Malaysia1000 Posts
Vlads is for pushing (+5 armor and bonus dmg aura) You can replace vlads with HoTD if there are heroes picking up or just pick up later if the games goes way too late lol | ||
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