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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
May 29 2013 23:27 GMT
#59001
On May 30 2013 08:14 Nocticate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 07:57 PrinceXizor wrote:
all hail rooftrellen.

OoV treant is actually moderately legit.


it's up there with OoV on Ogre Magi.

it's significantly better than on ogre magi. its not as good as on bear.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 29 2013 23:48 GMT
#59002
TIL Cyborgmatt looks just like Gaben.
WriterXiao8~~
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 29 2013 23:50 GMT
#59003
On May 30 2013 08:25 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 08:24 Andr3 wrote:
Your carry could be the best in the world but just have a shitty game and go 0-3 early on due to poor support from you, hard pressure from the enemy etc etc. Making decisions on who to collaborate with seems a bit far fetched, and would only work if you were really good at gauging player-skill.

If you judge incorrectly how good a player that's your problem, and is a point to improve on as a pub player. If you can't distinguish a player who's playing poorly from a player who's doing poorly due to bad matchups/poor support but playing well, then you can improve on that. The point is, it's something YOU can control, and not just a random factor of matchmaking.

Being able to judge how good each teammate is matters for winning pubs on EVERY role, not just support.

A lot of people complain about getting bad teammates in matchmaking, but I don't think it's actually that common where people get 4 teammates that are all bad (and when you do, you just shrug it off and go to the next game). I DO think its common that you'll get 1-2 good teammates and 2-3 bad teammates, and then see the good teammates get put into a scenario where they cannot carry the game. A mid hero in a bad matchup, an off-laner against a strong duo-lane/tri-lane, a carry with a bad support. You need to recognize those players that are good and be sure they can be put into situations where they can make good on their ability. This is true on any role, but is more so for support because you can't single-handedly take control of the game--you NEED one of those teammates to actually win the game when you're a support.

A team doesn't need all 5 players to be good to win in a pub. There are plenty of pub games everyone wins where there was that one guy who fed and was useless, but it didn't change the end result of the game. You don't lose games because you had 1 bad player--you lose games because your team put the game into a situation where how good that bad player was mattered.

Its however worth noticing that the definition of 'bad' or 'playing bad' is not a constant. Meaning that it is a relative definition which scale differently by your skill level. This results that unless you are the absolute best/worst player in the world, there always exist somebody who is better/worse than you that is near by your bracket. The outcome in term of game play is also magnified by the factor of line up which is different from game to game. It is really freaking hard to judge player skill level via a pub game rather than judging the skill level of a team as a whole and seeing how you ranked in the overall scale in term of coordination and execution.

That to be said, 99% of the pub matches should not be taken too seriously but just for fun matches. The game is balanced and designed via captain mode and should be judged using team match making. If you are complaining about public match making system, you are doing it wrong.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
May 29 2013 23:50 GMT
#59004
It really pushes the Gaben is IceFrog theory quite a bit further.
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
May 30 2013 00:06 GMT
#59005
On May 30 2013 08:50 SKC wrote:
It really pushes the Gaben is IceFrog theory quite a bit further.

gaben is icefrog is wyk is matt is bruno

hail discordia!
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
May 30 2013 00:11 GMT
#59006
"I like these drones that lick valve's asshole for every horrid patch they release lately.

But its okay, we got more hats instead of adding heroes / actually fixing those bugs that keep on piling.
I swear those fucking drones are the ones ruining the game by being so conformists with the work of Valve..."

"Im glad i went to lol, i thought it was shit but actually its more polished than dota 2."

i needa make an account on the dev forums, its better then teamliquid
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
May 30 2013 00:16 GMT
#59007
On May 30 2013 09:11 FinestHour wrote:
"I like these drones that lick valve's asshole for every horrid patch they release lately.

But its okay, we got more hats instead of adding heroes / actually fixing those bugs that keep on piling.
I swear those fucking drones are the ones ruining the game by being so conformists with the work of Valve..."

"Im glad i went to lol, i thought it was shit but actually its more polished than dota 2."

i needa make an account on the dev forums, its better then teamliquid

wat lol. in related news, people in lol forums/reddits are bitching about how LO3 is about dota, citing anti lol bias and lack of lol coverage. last 3-4 episodes covered more lol than any other game xD.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
May 30 2013 00:21 GMT
#59008
On May 30 2013 09:11 FinestHour wrote:
"I like these drones that lick valve's asshole for every horrid patch they release lately.

But its okay, we got more hats instead of adding heroes / actually fixing those bugs that keep on piling.
I swear those fucking drones are the ones ruining the game by being so conformists with the work of Valve..."

"Im glad i went to lol, i thought it was shit but actually its more polished than dota 2."

i needa make an account on the dev forums, its better then teamliquid

dude every patch thread without a hero release is made of pure motherfucking gold.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Mandini
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1717 Posts
May 30 2013 00:23 GMT
#59009
On May 30 2013 09:21 PassiveAce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 09:11 FinestHour wrote:
"I like these drones that lick valve's asshole for every horrid patch they release lately.

But its okay, we got more hats instead of adding heroes / actually fixing those bugs that keep on piling.
I swear those fucking drones are the ones ruining the game by being so conformists with the work of Valve..."

"Im glad i went to lol, i thought it was shit but actually its more polished than dota 2."

i needa make an account on the dev forums, its better then teamliquid

dude every patch thread without a hero release is made of pure motherfucking gold.

I wonder what's going to happen when all the heroes are out.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
May 30 2013 00:25 GMT
#59010
On May 30 2013 09:23 Mandini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 09:21 PassiveAce wrote:
On May 30 2013 09:11 FinestHour wrote:
"I like these drones that lick valve's asshole for every horrid patch they release lately.

But its okay, we got more hats instead of adding heroes / actually fixing those bugs that keep on piling.
I swear those fucking drones are the ones ruining the game by being so conformists with the work of Valve..."

"Im glad i went to lol, i thought it was shit but actually its more polished than dota 2."

i needa make an account on the dev forums, its better then teamliquid

dude every patch thread without a hero release is made of pure motherfucking gold.

I wonder what's going to happen when all the heroes are out.

it will get better. People will start expecting new heroes, and icefrog will not deliver. People will only get more ridiculous as they go an entire two months without a new hero.

And I will laugh and laugh and laugh.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
May 30 2013 00:26 GMT
#59011
complain about jungle creeps not sleeping at night or something prob
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
May 30 2013 00:29 GMT
#59012
It really is a shame you can't pretend to be an ogre creep as ogre magi anymore.
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
May 30 2013 01:11 GMT
#59013
On May 30 2013 09:29 SKC wrote:
It really is a shame you can't pretend to be an ogre creep as ogre magi anymore.

Or a Centaur creep as a Centaur Warchief. Those videos were hilarious hahaha.
Mew Mew Pew Pew
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13197 Posts
May 30 2013 02:09 GMT
#59014
On May 30 2013 05:57 Teton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 02:26 aintz wrote:
rynzser gaming cannot be helped, game too hard for you, better stick to feeding in csgo.

User was temp banned for this post.


30 days ban for a private joke/flame ?

seriously?


l o l

you new around here?
Hates Fun🤔
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
May 30 2013 02:16 GMT
#59015
the Cyborgmatt <-> Gaben resemblance is uncanny.
lazyitachi
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
1043 Posts
May 30 2013 02:17 GMT
#59016
Ya.. why dont they sleep at night anymore... no more pro jukes.. only get stomped by centaur/nuked by satyr/ clapped by ursa when chased by > 2 enemies and feed. T.T

Btw.. patches without heroes = "ded game" and sad face memes in dev thread.. good heavens..
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
May 30 2013 02:19 GMT
#59017
On May 30 2013 11:17 lazyitachi wrote:
Ya.. why dont they sleep at night anymore... no more pro jukes.. only get stomped by centaur/nuked by satyr/ clapped by ursa when chased by > 2 enemies and feed. T.T

Btw.. patches without heroes = "ded game" and sad face memes in dev thread.. good heavens..


Getting randomly nuked by the satyr IS really annoying though, esp as low level support
Rybka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States836 Posts
May 30 2013 02:23 GMT
#59018
Fuarrrrk I'm so buying Shagbark.
"I like winter, you can put a beer outside of the window and come back later to have it nice and cold. But in Belgium, it'd better be the 3rd floor window." -Rowa
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
May 30 2013 02:26 GMT
#59019
apparently league players are losing their shit after people discovered you could creep cut with certain heroes huehuehueheuhee
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
May 30 2013 02:28 GMT
#59020
On May 30 2013 11:26 FinestHour wrote:
apparently league players are losing their shit after people discovered you could creep cut with certain heroes huehuehueheuhee

What stream is this on?
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