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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
May 21 2013 00:36 GMT
#57741
On May 21 2013 09:03 Kishin2 wrote:
So Invoker hasn't been played at all in recent memory. The base damage nerf hit him pretty hard but going exort quas build makes last hitting and harassing less terrible. Is going exort not currently viable competitively right now or is he just not popular?

And perhaps a way to go quas wex and last hit is to use cold snap on creeps. It's 100 mana with 60 base damage +30 damage per hit and 20 seconds of cd. I'm not sure how cold snap interacts with denying, so this may or may not make denying easier for the other mid. The problem now is mana so maybe going not-so-conventional builds like bottle or soul ring is in order.


You can't rely on a 20 second CD to last hit with ^_^ I know it has been awhile since people have played him but you also seem to have no idea how the skill works...
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
May 21 2013 00:37 GMT
#57742
On May 21 2013 09:35 Laurens wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 09:27 FinestHour wrote:
so what exactly did this 200 mb patch do?


Hoping it's the compendium updates!


its not lol
as far as i can tell its like more broadcaster slots and u can see ur ti3 ticket in the upper right
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 21 2013 00:37 GMT
#57743
Ok. You know what. I need to ask something


Seriously, what is up with cliff jungling furions?
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
May 21 2013 00:43 GMT
#57744
cuz its extremely high skill low effort and u acquire gold coins anyway
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
May 21 2013 00:43 GMT
#57745
On May 21 2013 09:37 Shaella wrote:
Ok. You know what. I need to ask something


Seriously, what is up with cliff jungling furions?

The video must be making rounds again. There is a youtube video explaining it and how you get more money than normal by doing it (at the expense of your team, but pub furions don't ever care about team(credits), only money. just ward the cliff spots early and move to punish and kill furions when they start to jungle, and then they don't do it again.
Aixler
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands946 Posts
May 21 2013 00:47 GMT
#57746
Normal jungling is way and i mean way better for gold/xp. On top of that you actually have a tp ready to help your team~~
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
May 21 2013 00:56 GMT
#57747
On May 21 2013 09:47 Aixler wrote:
Normal jungling is way and i mean way better for gold/xp. On top of that you actually have a tp ready to help your team~~

you actually can get more money faster (IE a faster midas) with the cliff jungling, but after that you fall off greatly, as well as the risk of death when doing it, AND the inability to help your team.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 21 2013 01:00 GMT
#57748
On May 21 2013 09:43 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 09:37 Shaella wrote:
Ok. You know what. I need to ask something


Seriously, what is up with cliff jungling furions?

The video must be making rounds again. There is a youtube video explaining it and how you get more money than normal by doing it (at the expense of your team, but pub furions don't ever care about team(credits), only money. just ward the cliff spots early and move to punish and kill furions when they start to jungle, and then they don't do it again.

I've never seen a cliff jungling furion that had more gold than a normal one

Also they tend to get FB'd
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 21 2013 01:02 GMT
#57749
On May 21 2013 09:27 FinestHour wrote:
so what exactly did this 200 mb patch do?

most of those are Pflax godly announcer pack afaik.
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
May 21 2013 01:02 GMT
#57750
On May 21 2013 10:00 Shaella wrote:

I've never seen a cliff jungling furion that had more gold than a normal one

Also they tend to get FB'd

I agree with the second part. but often you can put some of your starting gold into the midas, which makes the midas faster. but yeah normal furions tend to lane as well, so they end up with a lot of lane gold. jungle furion gets less gold until higher ranks of treants. but like i said. its bad for many reasons that aren't compensated for by the slightly faster midas.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
May 21 2013 01:03 GMT
#57751
Well, if you properly use your treants, you can still clear the hardcamp out at level 1 anyways, and when you hit level 3 as long as you jungle properly, you can clear out hardcamp again.

There is literally 0 point to cliff jungling, and you don't get fucked if its troll camp at first spawn.
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igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
May 21 2013 01:05 GMT
#57752
Did the new patch change the graphics?
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
May 21 2013 01:07 GMT
#57753
On May 21 2013 10:05 igotmyown wrote:
Did the new patch change the graphics?


Dunno but I can't see healthbar anymore, huge improvement T.T
r_con
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States824 Posts
May 21 2013 01:07 GMT
#57754
new patch, crashes on startup of every match, including against bots....
Flash Fan!
PardonYou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1360 Posts
May 21 2013 01:08 GMT
#57755
On May 21 2013 10:07 SpiZe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 10:05 igotmyown wrote:
Did the new patch change the graphics?


Dunno but I can't see healthbar anymore, huge improvement T.T

Someone in my last game had that.

Pretty sure everyone dc'd at one point or another too. Super laggy and it's been fine all day.
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
May 21 2013 01:13 GMT
#57756
I was seeing triple ranged attacks from the lane creeps, and the dire volcano was spouting all over. And whenever I selected a hero, the hero portrait was some squiggly drawing. And the first time I opened dota2, blog/news/etc tabs were the same squiggly drawing.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 01:22:41
May 21 2013 01:16 GMT
#57757
The main draw of cliff jungling Furions is that you can gank at level 2 rather than level 3 (since you don't take treants you can have TP sprout at level 2).You can get FB this way because nobody expects a 1 minute TP sprout gank. After level 3 you should have 1-1-1 regardless so its the exact same.

Of course pub Furions never actually do this so in their case, cliff jungling is just worse.
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igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
May 21 2013 01:21 GMT
#57758
Not sure you even get level 2 much faster than a treant furion gets level 3, since you don't have 4 treants dpsing for you early.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
May 21 2013 01:23 GMT
#57759
Theres a lot of crashes going on with the new patch and graphic glitches.

Patch is really unstable atm
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SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
May 21 2013 01:24 GMT
#57760
On May 21 2013 10:23 Comeh wrote:
Theres a lot of crashes going on with the new patch and graphic glitches.

Patch is really unstable atm


Valve decided their game needed some new bugs.
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