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gaymon
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
Ok, il grant you that its possible (however remote). So what? | ||
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Yoshi-
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 20 2013 05:11 gaymon wrote: I am currently dling wc3 to get into the editor and try it out myself (Yes i have access to unprotected dota maps) I know from which point janggo is coming from but i have not done anything for 5 years in WC3 and there may have arose some tricks to make the 10 cogs circle viable. (In theory 10 cogs is really good for a circle) It's not so much that 10 cogs isn't doable (you could probably find some reasonably symmetric arrangement to place 10 cogs), its that if you can't change how cogs works to be able to push diagonally, 10 cogs doesn't actually change the spell in a meaningful way. You still only push people straight up/down/left/right, and you still only have to break 1 cog to get out. It's not like DotA 2 where cogs are super sensitive about bumping people and can bump people in diagonal directions so more cogs is better. | ||
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gaymon
Germany1023 Posts
On May 20 2013 05:18 TheYango wrote: It's not so much that 10 cogs isn't doable (you could probably find some reasonably symmetric arrangement to place 10 cogs), its that if you can't change how cogs works to be able to push diagonally, 10 cogs doesn't actually change the spell in a meaningful way. You still only push people straight up/down/left/right, and you still only have to break 1 cog to get out. It's not like DotA 2 where cogs are super sensitive about bumping people and can bump people in diagonal directions so more cogs is better. "Tweaks to Power Cogs: slightly reduced their size, increased count from 8 to 10, added animation when they are ejected from Clockwerk, now deployed in a circle shape. Behavior stays almost the same, but it is easier now to see and predict how the spell will react." I see nothing wrong here, it never stated that it should be a giant change. Yea this was always my biggest issue how i could possibly make a circle on a grid with only 10 squares What ? O O O O O O O O O O | ||
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PassiveAce
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On May 20 2013 05:11 gaymon wrote: Ok lets count those melee heroes who got diffusal + manta. Riki: Its a straight out buff to him, his high agility makes the manaburn 100% stronger than before, especially because illusions usually tend to not hit as often as the main hero because you dont animation cancel with them and they dont posess blinkstrike Phantom Lancer: I guess i dont have to argue why his playstyle got nerfed Especially the situations where only illusions where hitting you and burning your mana/killing you were the most rediculous to play against, and that change removed that. But PL isn't fucking overpowered. At all. And who is naga? Another hero that relied heavily on it for good mid-game damage. But whatever, i give up, debating with you is quite pointless from what i've observed. | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
On May 20 2013 05:20 gaymon wrote: "Tweaks to Power Cogs: slightly reduced their size, increased count from 8 to 10, added animation when they are ejected from Clockwerk, now deployed in a circle shape. Behavior stays almost the same, but it is easier now to see and predict how the spell will react." I see nothing wrong here, it never stated that it should be a giant change. What ? O O O O O O O O ... Thats 8 cogs bro | ||
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
On May 20 2013 05:20 gaymon wrote: "Tweaks to Power Cogs: slightly reduced their size, increased count from 8 to 10, added animation when they are ejected from Clockwerk, now deployed in a circle shape. Behavior stays almost the same, but it is easier now to see and predict how the spell will react." I see nothing wrong here, it never stated that it should be a giant change. What ? O O O O O O O O That is a parallelogram and this are only 8 pieces | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
I'm glad I was present once again ^^ . | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
On May 20 2013 05:26 BlitzerSC wrote: This is gonna be another Font/Shikyo moment. I'm glad I was present once again ^^ . Isn't his name just fantastic for a member of this exclusive club? | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On May 20 2013 05:26 BlitzerSC wrote: This is gonna be another Font/Shikyo moment. I'm glad I was present once again ^^ . You seem to have forgotten puzzywuzzy. The graph and ursa guy. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Please find something else to talk about or I'm going to start banning people. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On May 20 2013 05:27 TheYango wrote: Alright, you know what, fuck this, this discussion is going downhill fast. Please find something else to talk about or I'm going to start banning people. How do you play Elder Titan, he was pretty different feeling when i last played warcraft 3 dota, not really sure how to control him in lane or anything. halp? | ||
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gaymon
Germany1023 Posts
O O O O O O O O O O But PL isn't fucking overpowered. At all. And who is naga? Another hero that relied heavily on it for good mid-game damage. But whatever, i give up, debating with you is quite pointless from what i've observed. Naga is different from PL, she is hitting her target most of time together with her illusions. Considering she has 3 illusions and level 1 Diffusal she burned 80 mana before per hit. Now she burns for Agi*0.6 per hit (You also have to account for non-agility attackspeed bonuses which only apply to the main-hero) which equals 133 Agility so its a small nerf when all illusions are attacking and not dying but a giant buff in every other situation. Edit: Seeing that nobody here had any serious claims which i didnt abolish why those changes would be fake i am pretty happy with the outcome of my crusade. This is gonna be another Font/Shikyo moment Considering that he is a retard and argued about PA farming better than an AM i do not think so, especially because i am not atrocious at the game. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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