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DarkReign_
Profile Joined September 2012
1250 Posts
May 13 2013 09:35 GMT
#56521
^VG play almost flawlessly while LGD chocked and VG was not even close at throwing the game away.
But it is understandable for LGD with their current situation.
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
May 13 2013 09:35 GMT
#56522
On May 13 2013 18:10 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 18:07 Laserist wrote:
On May 13 2013 17:10 hfglgg wrote:
On May 13 2013 17:05 Laserist wrote:
Western teams do mistakes, Chinese don't. Also western seems one level below of top SEA and chinese teams and even 2 level below of IG. Navi is definitely weaker now so I don't expect any solid results from western teams in TI3. Also Alliance and Liquid hype will end when solid Chinese play appears. Results probably will be IG> Chinese & SEA > West. I'd be surprised if any west team drags beyond quarter.


yeah of course, xiao8 buying back 3 or 4 times without achieving anything in g-league semi finals was perfect play from him and that lgd got just wisp-ck'ed clearly shows how little mistakes they do...

that ig got outdrafted by a no-ban strategy from zentih also shows that ig is perfect and never does any mistakes whatsover.

...


I am overwhelmed by your endless arguments while I can give you around 10 times more simple mistakes that was done by western teams. Western teams spend most of the year by disbanding, roster changing etc.. Also loseing one game-series doesn't make your bad. Otherwise all western teams are shit because they constantly beat another or by other below their tier teams.

Chinese dota is much more solid and stable than western dota and different from TI2, they know how western teams play. Let's continue this discussion after TI3 after Eastern teams dominate the tourney. Go and live with your western hype.

He didn't once say in that post that Western teams were going to beat Eastern teams? He was just making a point that Chinese teams do in fact make mistakes, and are nowhere near perfect. Unless he's said these things on a different occasion? If so then my bad.


It was my mistake to answer a guy, just try to argue on two examples without any analysis or whatever. Actually he couldn't manage to say anything anyways.
There are endless posts about how western scene is chaotic(meaning too many mistakes so other team can comeback etc.. ). Ofc everyone can make mistakes but in west it happens in majority while in east it is significantly lesser. This is just because of investing soooo much time to practice and taking the game seriously.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-13 09:41:57
May 13 2013 09:37 GMT
#56523
Every team and player makes mistakes, that's obvious. It's also obvious that there's a difference in frequency and severity of said mistakes when comparing the scenes.

On May 13 2013 18:10 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 18:07 Laserist wrote:
On May 13 2013 17:10 hfglgg wrote:
On May 13 2013 17:05 Laserist wrote:
Western teams do mistakes, Chinese don't. Also western seems one level below of top SEA and chinese teams and even 2 level below of IG. Navi is definitely weaker now so I don't expect any solid results from western teams in TI3. Also Alliance and Liquid hype will end when solid Chinese play appears. Results probably will be IG> Chinese & SEA > West. I'd be surprised if any west team drags beyond quarter.


yeah of course, xiao8 buying back 3 or 4 times without achieving anything in g-league semi finals was perfect play from him and that lgd got just wisp-ck'ed clearly shows how little mistakes they do...

that ig got outdrafted by a no-ban strategy from zentih also shows that ig is perfect and never does any mistakes whatsover.

...


I am overwhelmed by your endless arguments while I can give you around 10 times more simple mistakes that was done by western teams. Western teams spend most of the year by disbanding, roster changing etc.. Also loseing one game-series doesn't make your bad. Otherwise all western teams are shit because they constantly beat another or by other below their tier teams.

Chinese dota is much more solid and stable than western dota and different from TI2, they know how western teams play. Let's continue this discussion after TI3 after Eastern teams dominate the tourney. Go and live with your western hype.

Chinese dota is boring. Who wants to watch iG win every tournament?

Its a testament to the fact that the western scene as a whole is stronger with teams being able to take games or series off of another at any given time, every match is more intersting

Just no.
sandyph
Profile Joined September 2010
Indonesia1640 Posts
May 13 2013 09:47 GMT
#56524
On May 13 2013 18:10 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 18:07 Laserist wrote:
On May 13 2013 17:10 hfglgg wrote:
On May 13 2013 17:05 Laserist wrote:
Western teams do mistakes, Chinese don't. Also western seems one level below of top SEA and chinese teams and even 2 level below of IG. Navi is definitely weaker now so I don't expect any solid results from western teams in TI3. Also Alliance and Liquid hype will end when solid Chinese play appears. Results probably will be IG> Chinese & SEA > West. I'd be surprised if any west team drags beyond quarter.


yeah of course, xiao8 buying back 3 or 4 times without achieving anything in g-league semi finals was perfect play from him and that lgd got just wisp-ck'ed clearly shows how little mistakes they do...

that ig got outdrafted by a no-ban strategy from zentih also shows that ig is perfect and never does any mistakes whatsover.

...


I am overwhelmed by your endless arguments while I can give you around 10 times more simple mistakes that was done by western teams. Western teams spend most of the year by disbanding, roster changing etc.. Also loseing one game-series doesn't make your bad. Otherwise all western teams are shit because they constantly beat another or by other below their tier teams.

Chinese dota is much more solid and stable than western dota and different from TI2, they know how western teams play. Let's continue this discussion after TI3 after Eastern teams dominate the tourney. Go and live with your western hype.

Chinese dota is boring. Who wants to watch iG win every tournament?

Its a testament to the fact that the western scene as a whole is stronger with teams being able to take games or series off of another at any given time, every match is more intersting


if iG play on western comp in the current condition, they will also win every tournament
Put quote here for readability
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
May 13 2013 09:49 GMT
#56525


On May 13 2013 18:10 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 18:07 Laserist wrote:
On May 13 2013 17:10 hfglgg wrote:
On May 13 2013 17:05 Laserist wrote:
Western teams do mistakes, Chinese don't. Also western seems one level below of top SEA and chinese teams and even 2 level below of IG. Navi is definitely weaker now so I don't expect any solid results from western teams in TI3. Also Alliance and Liquid hype will end when solid Chinese play appears. Results probably will be IG> Chinese & SEA > West. I'd be surprised if any west team drags beyond quarter.


yeah of course, xiao8 buying back 3 or 4 times without achieving anything in g-league semi finals was perfect play from him and that lgd got just wisp-ck'ed clearly shows how little mistakes they do...

that ig got outdrafted by a no-ban strategy from zentih also shows that ig is perfect and never does any mistakes whatsover.

...


I am overwhelmed by your endless arguments while I can give you around 10 times more simple mistakes that was done by western teams. Western teams spend most of the year by disbanding, roster changing etc.. Also loseing one game-series doesn't make your bad. Otherwise all western teams are shit because they constantly beat another or by other below their tier teams.

Chinese dota is much more solid and stable than western dota and different from TI2, they know how western teams play. Let's continue this discussion after TI3 after Eastern teams dominate the tourney. Go and live with your western hype.

Chinese dota is boring. Who wants to watch iG win every tournament?

Its a testament to the fact that the western scene as a whole is stronger with teams being able to take games or series off of another at any given time, every match is more intersting


Obvious troll is obvious.
secret - never again
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-13 10:00:21
May 13 2013 10:00 GMT
#56526
On May 13 2013 18:10 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 18:07 Laserist wrote:
On May 13 2013 17:10 hfglgg wrote:
On May 13 2013 17:05 Laserist wrote:
Western teams do mistakes, Chinese don't. Also western seems one level below of top SEA and chinese teams and even 2 level below of IG. Navi is definitely weaker now so I don't expect any solid results from western teams in TI3. Also Alliance and Liquid hype will end when solid Chinese play appears. Results probably will be IG> Chinese & SEA > West. I'd be surprised if any west team drags beyond quarter.


yeah of course, xiao8 buying back 3 or 4 times without achieving anything in g-league semi finals was perfect play from him and that lgd got just wisp-ck'ed clearly shows how little mistakes they do...

that ig got outdrafted by a no-ban strategy from zentih also shows that ig is perfect and never does any mistakes whatsover.

...


I am overwhelmed by your endless arguments while I can give you around 10 times more simple mistakes that was done by western teams. Western teams spend most of the year by disbanding, roster changing etc.. Also loseing one game-series doesn't make your bad. Otherwise all western teams are shit because they constantly beat another or by other below their tier teams.

Chinese dota is much more solid and stable than western dota and different from TI2, they know how western teams play. Let's continue this discussion after TI3 after Eastern teams dominate the tourney. Go and live with your western hype.

Chinese dota is boring. Who wants to watch iG win every tournament?

Its a testament to the fact that the western scene as a whole is stronger with teams being able to take games or series off of another at any given time, every match is more intersting


ig only won 50% of the tournaments they participated in since ti2
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
May 13 2013 10:00 GMT
#56527
These east vs. west nerdwars never change, do they? It's exactly the same arguments as 4 years ago. <3
super gg
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
May 13 2013 10:06 GMT
#56528
On May 13 2013 19:00 cecek wrote:
These east vs. west nerdwars never change, do they? It's exactly the same arguments as 4 years ago. <3

What happened 4 years ago?
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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
May 13 2013 10:13 GMT
#56529
West vs east nerdwars
That never changed
Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
May 13 2013 10:15 GMT
#56530
East has Yao. East wins
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
May 13 2013 10:17 GMT
#56531
On May 13 2013 19:15 Fwizzz wrote:
East has Yao. East wins


west just needs to somehow lure cty into the west.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 13 2013 10:19 GMT
#56532
East has Yao

West had Pajjkat

Pajjkat is now in the East

Game over.
WriterXiao8~~
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
May 13 2013 10:21 GMT
#56533
What about Loda? But I guess he going to east too now...
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
May 13 2013 10:21 GMT
#56534
On May 13 2013 19:21 Benjef wrote:
What about Loda? But I guess he going to east too now...

Have you seen his combover?
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
May 13 2013 10:22 GMT
#56535
NO. I guess thats why he always wears a hat. Pics plz.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 13 2013 10:22 GMT
#56536
Have you seen Loda without his hat?
WriterXiao8~~
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-13 10:24:58
May 13 2013 10:23 GMT
#56537
[image loading]

Oh lord.

Edit - That is loda on the right, right?

I can't quite make up my mind...
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-13 10:26:09
May 13 2013 10:25 GMT
#56538
On May 13 2013 19:23 Benjef wrote:
[image loading]

Oh lord.

Edit - That is loda on the right, right?

I can't quite make up my mind...


Yes, Akke is on the left.

I don't have the flattest hair line on the planet, but damn Loda's combing his shit over from Africa
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
May 13 2013 10:26 GMT
#56539
Loda's hair is just too weird.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
May 13 2013 10:40 GMT
#56540
Loda has huge forehead
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