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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
May 10 2013 02:03 GMT
#55801
On May 10 2013 11:02 TheEmulator wrote:
Patch came? I'm not on right now.

It's out!
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run.at.me
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia550 Posts
May 10 2013 02:09 GMT
#55802
On May 10 2013 10:53 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 10:49 run.at.me wrote:
I'm sorry but there are definitely try hards in dota - while the game is competitive, it's also just a game - yet you see the nerds picking the ez nub heroes like nyx (seriously.. you don't pick nyx unless your a try hard noob)

They are labelled try hards because it is the equivalent of cheese in sc2.. Strategies that are much harder to counter than to execute.

While cheese in sc2 was generally accepted, nobody liked versing it and nobody respected it.

I don't cry when I see noob picks, but I definitely think you're bad

"They are labeled tryhards because they pick easier heroes that are easier to execute".

I mean, there has to be a better term you could come up with.


It's more of an attack on their personality - those kind of people who just play to win - not play to enjoy themselves (although winning is fun, this is beyond that).

Consider a board game with 10 pieces and each piece has a special ability. People love the game and it's a lot of fun, but there's one piece which is frustratingly stronger than others, and requires 5 of the pieces to strategise around this one piece.

Now, one kid comes along and just wants to win - every game. So he picks that piece - every game.

This kid has no friends, and receives abuse on a regular basis. He never develops any skill, but he wins a lot of games.

Is he allowed to pick this piece? Sure. Does any body like him? No.

Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
May 10 2013 02:11 GMT
#55803
I can`t click the find match button right now. am I the only one with this problem?
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
May 10 2013 02:12 GMT
#55804
lotta things wrong with this patch lll
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
May 10 2013 02:14 GMT
#55805
Where are the patch notes? I can't find it on the site =o
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
May 10 2013 02:14 GMT
#55806
On May 10 2013 11:11 Kznn wrote:
I can`t click the find match button right now. am I the only one with this problem?

There were steam problems before the patch, maybe they are still persisting. Or maybe it's a problem with the patch.
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RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
May 10 2013 02:46 GMT
#55807
All these mini patches and they still WONT RELEASE THE MUSHROOMS, take my money damnit
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
May 10 2013 02:50 GMT
#55808
ya u can still see the steam coming out of my head about that
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Tahona
Profile Joined October 2010
United States252 Posts
May 10 2013 02:59 GMT
#55809
quick question do normal battle bonuses stack with the compendium one? so ~ 300% or will it just take the higher valued one?
KezseN
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1450 Posts
May 10 2013 03:01 GMT
#55810
On May 10 2013 11:46 RuskiPanda wrote:
All these mini patches and they still WONT RELEASE THE MUSHROOMS, take my money damnit


WHAT MUSHROOMS??
To Skeleton King: "Have you considered employment at Apple?"
run.at.me
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia550 Posts
May 10 2013 03:03 GMT
#55811
On May 10 2013 11:59 Tahona wrote:
quick question do normal battle bonuses stack with the compendium one? so ~ 300% or will it just take the higher valued one?


They won't stack, I have the battle point bonus 6 day and my compendium won't activate until my 6 days expire
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
May 10 2013 03:36 GMT
#55812
On May 10 2013 12:01 KezseN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 11:46 RuskiPanda wrote:
All these mini patches and they still WONT RELEASE THE MUSHROOMS, take my money damnit


WHAT MUSHROOMS??


the shrooms they hand out after every match you play.
bjwithbraces
Profile Joined April 2010
United States549 Posts
May 10 2013 03:37 GMT
#55813
On May 10 2013 12:36 trifecta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 12:01 KezseN wrote:
On May 10 2013 11:46 RuskiPanda wrote:
All these mini patches and they still WONT RELEASE THE MUSHROOMS, take my money damnit


WHAT MUSHROOMS??


the shrooms they hand out after every match you play.



haha wp
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r_con
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States824 Posts
May 10 2013 03:43 GMT
#55814
playing to win is now frowned upon in the dota community, picking strong heroes is a bad thing, and makes you a bad player... whats? do not understand....
Flash Fan!
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
May 10 2013 03:45 GMT
#55815
On May 10 2013 12:43 r_con wrote:
playing to win is now frowned upon in the dota community, picking strong heroes is a bad thing, and makes you a bad player... whats? do not understand....

People love finding excuses.
Moderator
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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
May 10 2013 04:35 GMT
#55816
http://www.cyborgmatt.com/2013/05/dota-2-8th-may/
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 04:44:18
May 10 2013 04:41 GMT
#55817
hmmm, which one has a shorter queue searching time? Normal matchmaking or solo? Does using normal matchmaking still let you have a chance to get a solo queue game? I am so confused right now T_T

edit: using the normal matchmaking queue, 4 mins and search range doesnt expand 1 bit, 5 mins it goes up a tiny.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
May 10 2013 04:45 GMT
#55818
On May 10 2013 11:09 run.at.me wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 10:53 Comeh wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:49 run.at.me wrote:
I'm sorry but there are definitely try hards in dota - while the game is competitive, it's also just a game - yet you see the nerds picking the ez nub heroes like nyx (seriously.. you don't pick nyx unless your a try hard noob)

They are labelled try hards because it is the equivalent of cheese in sc2.. Strategies that are much harder to counter than to execute.

While cheese in sc2 was generally accepted, nobody liked versing it and nobody respected it.

I don't cry when I see noob picks, but I definitely think you're bad

"They are labeled tryhards because they pick easier heroes that are easier to execute".

I mean, there has to be a better term you could come up with.


It's more of an attack on their personality - those kind of people who just play to win - not play to enjoy themselves (although winning is fun, this is beyond that).


On May 10 2013 10:49 run.at.me wrote:
I'm sorry but there are definitely try hards in dota - while the game is competitive, it's also just a game - yet you see the nerds picking the ez nub heroes like nyx (seriously.. you don't pick nyx unless your a try hard noob)

Yea damn those tryhard noobs that might pick nyx because they enjoy picking him. They're trying too hard to win and not having any fun at all! Damn them!
Jesus christ this is some of the most illogical shit i've read in a while.

NEWFLASH: THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO PICK HEROES BECAUSE THEY ENJOY THEM WITHOUT GIVING A FUCK ABOUT YOUR INVISIBLE STANDARDS.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
May 10 2013 04:49 GMT
#55819
On May 10 2013 12:43 r_con wrote:
playing to win is now frowned upon in the dota community, picking strong heroes is a bad thing, and makes you a bad player... whats? do not understand....

http://espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/060302

This is actually a question I'm obsessed with: Why don't people work hard when it's in their best interest to do so? Why does Eddy Curry come to camp every year overweight?

The (short) answer is that it's really risky to work hard, because then if you fail you can no longer say that you failed because you didn't work hard. It's a form of self-protection.

Most of the psychological research on this is focused on why some kids don't study for tests -- which is a much more serious version of the same problem. If you get drunk the night before an exam instead of studying and you fail, then the problem is that you got drunk. If you do study and you fail, the problem is that you're stupid -- and stupid, for a student, is a death sentence.

The point is that it is far more psychologically dangerous and difficult to prepare for a task than not to prepare
BoxingKangaroo
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Japan955 Posts
May 10 2013 04:49 GMT
#55820
On May 10 2013 12:43 r_con wrote:
playing to win is now frowned upon in the dota community, picking strong heroes is a bad thing, and makes you a bad player... whats? do not understand....


What's not to understand? The game at the pro level and the pub level are completely different games. Playing ALL PICK like it's CAPTAINS MODE breaks the game. Playing to win is good. Playing to win at all costs by picking compositions that are stupidly OP out of CM is tryhard.

When you queue for ALL PICK, you're signing an implicit social contract that 'all' heroes can be picked. Picking the strong ones all the time is breaking this contract, and is a dick thing to do.

Now if you're in Very High, then have at it, I'd expect it in that bracket. For everyone else, 'tryhard' is a valid criticism.
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