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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
May 09 2013 12:24 GMT
#55681
I don't know if you want qop and puck against Skymage, tbh. Neither of them like being silenced and bursted down.
super gg
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 12:27:02
May 09 2013 12:25 GMT
#55682
Can't disjoint arcane bolt IIRC, works like sven stun.

Edit: Nvm reading comprehension, you meant dodging the slow. I suck.
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Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
May 09 2013 12:32 GMT
#55683
Oh yeh forgot about the silence... Bah just dual mid against him and get some strong side lane solos and a jungler. Then you'll only lose one lane and win the jungle.
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BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
May 09 2013 12:38 GMT
#55684
Or gank him like you would do with Shadow fiend.

Easy kill.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
May 09 2013 12:38 GMT
#55685
On May 09 2013 21:24 cecek wrote:
I don't know if you want qop and puck against Skymage, tbh. Neither of them like being silenced and bursted down.


Nah, puck can easily dodge bolt even when sm has silence, bolt moves so slow that you can easily kite it until silence is gone.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 12:50:08
May 09 2013 12:49 GMT
#55686
On May 09 2013 21:38 Yoshi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 21:24 cecek wrote:
I don't know if you want qop and puck against Skymage, tbh. Neither of them like being silenced and bursted down.


Nah, puck can easily dodge bolt even when sm has silence, bolt moves so slow that you can easily kite it until silence is gone.

Sure, you might do well in the laning phase, but after that the puck is just food. If he eats the silence he's just dead... it's 6 seconds he can't do anything and all magic damage dealt to his is amplified. Skymage's silence is 700 range too, it's very hard to play around that as a puck.

I think Dendi played SM against Demon's Puck and Demon got solo killed like 3 times, iirc. Not saying that's representative of the matchup, but at least it's something.
super gg
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
May 09 2013 12:57 GMT
#55687
This does confuse me that silences tend to wreck most mid heroes, so why don't more people pick up Drow ranger? Her AoE silence is painful as hell and with her slow and aura, it makes her a killing machine.

Tri lane with drow (agro) shadowblade first item so she can intiate with silence (pinoy style). Then have some strong 1v1 lane farmer (ranged) like gyro or luna (dat aura stack) and pick a ranged mid hero. Then you just have an insane amount of right click in the midgame for like nothing. (I like brackets)
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 13:06:24
May 09 2013 13:03 GMT
#55688
Drow takes too many items to be good. And even if she has them, she's purely single target damage, which is not disarable in lategame, and there are far better midgame carries than her.

For example, I can't imagine when I would ever want Drow instead of Luna, for example.
super gg
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
May 09 2013 13:08 GMT
#55689
Because drow is paper and dies to any good trilane
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
May 09 2013 13:16 GMT
#55690
Nightstalker might do decent against skywrath mage.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
May 09 2013 14:00 GMT
#55691
Skywrath mage pretty much beats everyone in lane.

You know who he doesn't beat in lane?
Ganks.

GANK HIM

GANK THIS FUCKING HERO
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Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
May 09 2013 14:03 GMT
#55692
On May 09 2013 22:03 cecek wrote:
Drow takes too many items to be good. And even if she has them, she's purely single target damage, which is not disarable in lategame, and there are far better midgame carries than her.

For example, I can't imagine when I would ever want Drow instead of Luna, for example.


This is not true. Drow needs less items in early to mid game and needs somewhat items from mid to late game. She rather needs good tanking and initiating from her team and lots of protection. Treads - sb(or drums) - critic is all she needs.

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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
May 09 2013 14:04 GMT
#55693
Or just dual lane. Something like Naix/Rubick or naix/sd will 100% kill him
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cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
May 09 2013 14:12 GMT
#55694
On May 09 2013 23:00 Comeh wrote:
Skywrath mage pretty much beats everyone in lane.

You know who he doesn't beat in lane?
Ganks.

GANK HIM

GANK THIS FUCKING HERO

TA should destroy skymage in lane
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 09 2013 14:17 GMT
#55695
What's with all the people in stream chats talking about winning rares talking about?
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
May 09 2013 14:23 GMT
#55696
http://dota2lounge.com/

betting on matches
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 09 2013 14:31 GMT
#55697
On May 09 2013 23:23 aintz wrote:
http://dota2lounge.com/

betting on matches


Only message I get are "all bots are busy"
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
May 09 2013 14:36 GMT
#55698
On May 09 2013 23:31 KillerSOS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 23:23 aintz wrote:
http://dota2lounge.com/

betting on matches


Only message I get are "all bots are busy"

Because they betted on the matches before?
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 09 2013 14:38 GMT
#55699
On May 09 2013 23:36 SilverStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 23:31 KillerSOS wrote:
On May 09 2013 23:23 aintz wrote:
http://dota2lounge.com/

betting on matches


Only message I get are "all bots are busy"

Because they betted on the matches before?


Naw trying to bet on matches happening later.

the TL match.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
May 09 2013 14:55 GMT
#55700
On May 09 2013 22:03 cecek wrote:
Drow takes too many items to be good. And even if she has them, she's purely single target damage, which is not disarable in lategame, and there are far better midgame carries than her.

For example, I can't imagine when I would ever want Drow instead of Luna, for example.


Huh? Drow is just about the least item dependant "carry" in the game.

Her single target is also fine because it's so high if you get the positioning right. The problem is, of course, that positioning her correctly is hard.

The reason you'd pick her over Luna is for her silence and the potential to help win all lanes thanks to her passive along with crazily good push. She's a niche pick for sure and gets hard-countered by some heroes, but she's not without merits.
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