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On May 02 2013 13:33 FuzzyJAM wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 11:05 FinestHour wrote:On May 02 2013 11:00 GentleDrill wrote:On May 02 2013 10:46 TheYango wrote:On May 02 2013 10:38 GentleDrill wrote:
Do you mean the armour from Dragon Blood? Isn't that supposed to be counted as base armour? It displays as base armor in the interface but it actually isn't treated as base armor by TC's aura. Base armor = initial no-stat armor + armor gain from agility. Doesn't matter, TC still crushes DK. That seems incredibly arbitrary. What's the point in it supposedly being base armour then? Does any other ability or mechanic in the game differentiate between base armour and bonus armour? first rule of dota is that theres an exception to every rule Ya. I'll probably get shouted down by veterans from the original, but I feel that's something that really needs to be addressed at some point. A lot of it is just plain stupid.
Actually it kind of makes a lot of sense. base armor is armor your character gets naturally (such as agility and starting armor) where bonus armor is anything that adds a number to your armor.
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On May 02 2013 13:47 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 13:33 FuzzyJAM wrote:On May 02 2013 11:05 FinestHour wrote:On May 02 2013 11:00 GentleDrill wrote:On May 02 2013 10:46 TheYango wrote:On May 02 2013 10:38 GentleDrill wrote:
Do you mean the armour from Dragon Blood? Isn't that supposed to be counted as base armour? It displays as base armor in the interface but it actually isn't treated as base armor by TC's aura. Base armor = initial no-stat armor + armor gain from agility. Doesn't matter, TC still crushes DK. That seems incredibly arbitrary. What's the point in it supposedly being base armour then? Does any other ability or mechanic in the game differentiate between base armour and bonus armour? first rule of dota is that theres an exception to every rule Ya. I'll probably get shouted down by veterans from the original, but I feel that's something that really needs to be addressed at some point. A lot of it is just plain stupid. Actually it kind of makes a lot of sense. base armor is armor your character gets naturally (such as agility and starting armor) where bonus armor is anything that adds a number to your armor.
IIRC, the only difference between the two is that armor that isn't base armor isn't transferred to illusions
Edit (Also ET obviously)
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everytime mistmare goes jungle huskar he just wins
it just blows my mind
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If you're chat banned does that apply in custom games? Like if I want to play ixdl-o until it's gone would I able to communicate with peeps or no.
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On May 02 2013 15:05 RuskiPanda wrote:
If you're chat banned does that apply in custom games? Like if I want to play ixdl-o until it's gone would I able to communicate with peeps or no.
no, afaik chat only apply to pub and chat channel, custom games should work.
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So how long till TC will be implemented in CM?
Because this guy will definitely be top pick like in Dota 1.
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So this is a thing
"The Gamefy/Perfect World $135k Dota 2 tournament is BANNING armlet on Lone Druid DAYUM! Definitely agree this hero (and naix) are too strong"
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Armlet is bugged on bear, its kinda legit to ban it
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really
another person qqing about naix and sylla being too strong holy shit
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I don't agree with a ban like that actually. If armlet on bear seriously makes him too strong then teams should focus on banning him more.
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Wtf is this shit, ban Sylla if you can't stand Armlet on bear. It worked this way in Dota1 too zzz.
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I still dont get it why LD players dont just get 5 armlets + boots on the bear .... its THAT good for its price.
You get 40 dmg , +25 AS , +5 armor , +8 hp/s for just 2600 gold, Just stack 5 armlets and own 
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Noticed Jeyo playing Nightstalker on his stream with power treads and had a thought. I usually get phase boots on him but now I'm thinking it'd be pretty legitimate to get both treads and phase boots. There are only a handful of items that give +ms and tread switching is really good especially with a bottle.
Core build: bottle, wand, phase, treads, urn/medallion
You always need one pair of boots so the options are: drums + phase, drums + treads, or treads + phase. Normally I'd get drums instead of one of the boots. but phase boots give twice the damage of drums and more +ms with phase than drums + its active. Drums also give +14 AS (+24 w/ active) while treads always give +30 AS. This with how good tread switching is with bottle, double boots build on Nightstalker should be good.
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On May 02 2013 17:39 SkelA wrote:I still dont get it why LD players dont just get 5 armlets + boots on the bear .... its THAT good for its price. You get 40 dmg , +25 AS , +5 armor , +8 hp/s for just 2600 gold, Just stack 5 armlets and own
You can only carry one armlet, unless that's bugged too.
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drums benefits your team, and you'd be better off going bkb or armlet if you want to carry
double boots isn't that bad on a lot of heroes, it's just that usually there are better choices
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The problem is that Nightstalker doesn't really need to stack ms once you get enough ranks in his passive.. There are far more critical pickups that ~1400 gold could be going towards like Armlet, bkb, aghanims, etc. Having a ton of small, useful items like your core is nice but once people start finishing midgame items you start to fall way behind because you have to sell to free up slots.
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On May 02 2013 14:13 FinestHour wrote:
everytime mistmare goes jungle huskar he just wins
it just blows my mind
How does jungle huskar even work?
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Also, yes, armlet spirit bear a bug that Valve hasn't addressed and seriously impacts the balance of the hero. I don't see anything wrong with banning the item (it's somewhat similar to banning people from getting quelling on PL when it was bugged). Though I do say they should probably ban it just on spirit bear... who cares if the druid himself is running around armlet toggling.
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On May 02 2013 17:48 Kishin2 wrote:
Noticed Jeyo playing Nightstalker on his stream with power treads and had a thought. I usually get phase boots on him but now I'm thinking it'd be pretty legitimate to get both treads and phase boots. There are only a handful of items that give +ms and tread switching is really good especially with a bottle.
Core build: bottle, wand, phase, treads, urn/medallion
You always need one pair of boots so the options are: drums + phase, drums + treads, or treads + phase. Normally I'd get drums instead of one of the boots. but phase boots give twice the damage of drums and more +ms with phase than drums + its active. Drums also give +14 AS (+24 w/ active) while treads always give +30 AS. This with how good tread switching is with bottle, double boots build on Nightstalker should be good.
How is that a core build? You have no slots left for anything important like a bkb, or hell, armlet. Also, you're trying to compare drums to both treads + phase. Try comparing it to one of the items while you already have + move speed accounted. It's not worth it.
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On May 02 2013 17:20 Gheizen64 wrote:Wtf is this shit, ban Sylla if you can't stand Armlet on bear. It worked this way in Dota1 too zzz.
Its a physical game bug. Armlet is NOT WORKING AS intended right now on bear. It is giving too many bonuses.
This has nothing to do with team perceiving a hero to be too strong, it is banning a practice that is essentially a BUG EXPLOIT.
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