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On May 02 2013 09:52 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 09:36 BurningSera wrote:
Yup offlaner is probably his role in current meta. All he needs is some levels and unleash his omfgbbq teamfight power. And that aura is so damn sick later <3 The aura crushes low-mobility carries that rely on their survivability stats to stay in a fight. You just put you/your spirit on them and their armor/magic resist evaporates. Dragon Knight was the biggest target when TC was used in DotA 1. Even though most of his armor isn't base armor, the hero relies so much on his tankiness to stay in the fight and has no real way out if TC just turns on BKB and walks on his face.
Do you mean the armour from Dragon Blood? Isn't that supposed to be counted as base armour?
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On May 02 2013 09:53 rabidch wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 09:52 NB wrote:
I dont know, we did run mag as offlaner before we realize how powerful he is in mid. I think TC is pretty much the same case here as people just gona bottle crow and dont even care about rune check. My question: what is the interaction between spirit and TP/blink/relocate? does the spirit get relocate into the otherside of the map? dont even care about rune check???
If your hero doesn't have a mobility skill like blink, etc. and you're bottle crowing it's usually better to just nuke down creep waves and go stack or something than try to contest runes because walking back and forth to runes before having boots (or the enemy laner gets boots first) you can lose out on exp or run the risk of getting ganked by sidelaners also checking the rune.
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seems like rune control wouldn't be all that difficult with stomp & spirit
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On May 02 2013 10:38 GentleDrill wrote:
Do you mean the armour from Dragon Blood? Isn't that supposed to be counted as base armour?
It displays as base armor in the interface but it actually isn't treated as base armor by TC's aura. Base armor = initial no-stat armor + armor gain from agility.
Doesn't matter, TC still crushes DK.
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EG Bamboe, very nice. Hopefully Maelk can coach them to a qualifying spot in TI3.
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On May 02 2013 06:52 FinestHour wrote:
i suggest u dont pick dragon knight when tc is on enemy team
i foresaw the future posts
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On May 02 2013 09:52 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 09:36 BurningSera wrote:
Yup offlaner is probably his role in current meta. All he needs is some levels and unleash his omfgbbq teamfight power. And that aura is so damn sick later <3 The aura crushes low-mobility carries that rely on their survivability stats to stay in a fight. You just put you/your spirit on them and their armor/magic resist evaporates.
Everything literally exploded, when his combo was done right. Everything.
Hard to believe that the release of TC is this late into the development stages. Maybe it was all planned. Now if Pit was to be released before TI3 it would make TI3 3times the awesomeness....but i think it is too late now to allow teams to develop strategy with these later released heroes.
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On May 02 2013 10:46 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 10:38 GentleDrill wrote:
Do you mean the armour from Dragon Blood? Isn't that supposed to be counted as base armour? It displays as base armor in the interface but it actually isn't treated as base armor by TC's aura. Base armor = initial no-stat armor + armor gain from agility. Doesn't matter, TC still crushes DK.
That seems incredibly arbitrary. What's the point in it supposedly being base armour then? Does any other ability or mechanic in the game differentiate between base armour and bonus armour?
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So does ET not need Blink because Stomp can be done through his illusion (thus a safe initiation)?
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On May 02 2013 10:59 BurningSera wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 09:52 TheYango wrote:On May 02 2013 09:36 BurningSera wrote:
Yup offlaner is probably his role in current meta. All he needs is some levels and unleash his omfgbbq teamfight power. And that aura is so damn sick later <3 The aura crushes low-mobility carries that rely on their survivability stats to stay in a fight. You just put you/your spirit on them and their armor/magic resist evaporates. Everything literally exploded, when his combo was done right. Everything. Hard to believe that the release of TC is this late into the development stages. Maybe it was all planned. Now if Pit was to be released before TI3 it would make TI3 3times the awesomeness....but i think it is too late now to allow teams to develop strategy with these later released heroes.
I'm pretty sure pitlord isn't in CM right now anyways
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On May 02 2013 10:43 Skullflower wrote:
seems like rune control wouldn't be all that difficult with stomp & spirit
this
On May 02 2013 11:01 Torte de Lini wrote:
So does ET not need Blink because Stomp can be done through his illusion (thus a safe initiation)?
he doesnt, and his stomp has long windup so he can be disabled before he actually does it. additionally, his base stats arent all that fantastic for close combat teamfighting with out mek or bkb
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On May 02 2013 11:00 GentleDrill wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 10:46 TheYango wrote:On May 02 2013 10:38 GentleDrill wrote:
Do you mean the armour from Dragon Blood? Isn't that supposed to be counted as base armour? It displays as base armor in the interface but it actually isn't treated as base armor by TC's aura. Base armor = initial no-stat armor + armor gain from agility. Doesn't matter, TC still crushes DK. That seems incredibly arbitrary. What's the point in it supposedly being base armour then? Does any other ability or mechanic in the game differentiate between base armour and bonus armour?
first rule of dota is that theres an exception to every rule
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On May 02 2013 11:05 FinestHour wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 11:00 GentleDrill wrote:On May 02 2013 10:46 TheYango wrote:On May 02 2013 10:38 GentleDrill wrote:
Do you mean the armour from Dragon Blood? Isn't that supposed to be counted as base armour? It displays as base armor in the interface but it actually isn't treated as base armor by TC's aura. Base armor = initial no-stat armor + armor gain from agility. Doesn't matter, TC still crushes DK. That seems incredibly arbitrary. What's the point in it supposedly being base armour then? Does any other ability or mechanic in the game differentiate between base armour and bonus armour? first rule of dota is that theres an exception to every rule
damn, thats a good quote :D.
What is the interaction between stomp and relocate of wisp though? does it just cancel out just like SK ult?
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Grant, Bleek and Korok should cast everything. And Bdiz too. These post game interviews too. Holy fuck
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I agree that their NA show is a lot more hilarious than MAAD.
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On May 02 2013 10:59 BurningSera wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 09:52 TheYango wrote:On May 02 2013 09:36 BurningSera wrote:
Yup offlaner is probably his role in current meta. All he needs is some levels and unleash his omfgbbq teamfight power. And that aura is so damn sick later <3 The aura crushes low-mobility carries that rely on their survivability stats to stay in a fight. You just put you/your spirit on them and their armor/magic resist evaporates. Everything literally exploded, when his combo was done right. Everything. Hard to believe that the release of TC is this late into the development stages. Maybe it was all planned. Now if Pit was to be released before TI3 it would make TI3 3times the awesomeness....but i think it is too late now to allow teams to develop strategy with these later released heroes.
They released 4 heroes one month before TI2 and stopped releasing new heroes to allow players to get used to it in that 1 month time frame. I don't see why they can't do it again. Abaddon and Legion Commander are probably very close, since a lot of their textures are already done.
This leaves 7 more heroes. 2 months for 7 heroes is probably stretching it a bit especially when there are no workfiles yet, but Valve could really surprise us.
EDIT: Also 2 of the 7 heroes are the ones released upon 6.77 Dota 1, so it's possible Valve could just wait till after TI3 to release them.
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On May 02 2013 11:05 FinestHour wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 11:00 GentleDrill wrote:On May 02 2013 10:46 TheYango wrote:On May 02 2013 10:38 GentleDrill wrote:
Do you mean the armour from Dragon Blood? Isn't that supposed to be counted as base armour? It displays as base armor in the interface but it actually isn't treated as base armor by TC's aura. Base armor = initial no-stat armor + armor gain from agility. Doesn't matter, TC still crushes DK. That seems incredibly arbitrary. What's the point in it supposedly being base armour then? Does any other ability or mechanic in the game differentiate between base armour and bonus armour? first rule of dota is that theres an exception to every rule
Ya.
I'll probably get shouted down by veterans from the original, but I feel that's something that really needs to be addressed at some point. A lot of it is just plain stupid.
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On May 02 2013 13:33 FuzzyJAM wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 11:05 FinestHour wrote:On May 02 2013 11:00 GentleDrill wrote:On May 02 2013 10:46 TheYango wrote:On May 02 2013 10:38 GentleDrill wrote:
Do you mean the armour from Dragon Blood? Isn't that supposed to be counted as base armour? It displays as base armor in the interface but it actually isn't treated as base armor by TC's aura. Base armor = initial no-stat armor + armor gain from agility. Doesn't matter, TC still crushes DK. That seems incredibly arbitrary. What's the point in it supposedly being base armour then? Does any other ability or mechanic in the game differentiate between base armour and bonus armour? first rule of dota is that theres an exception to every rule Ya. I'll probably get shouted down by veterans from the original, but I feel that's something that really needs to be addressed at some point. A lot of it is just plain stupid.
You can thank the warcraft 3 engine for most of those. There's probably an exception to this one too, but the oddities are because of dumb things that happened rather than them being programmed that way on purpose.
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On May 02 2013 13:41 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 13:33 FuzzyJAM wrote:On May 02 2013 11:05 FinestHour wrote:On May 02 2013 11:00 GentleDrill wrote:On May 02 2013 10:46 TheYango wrote:On May 02 2013 10:38 GentleDrill wrote:
Do you mean the armour from Dragon Blood? Isn't that supposed to be counted as base armour? It displays as base armor in the interface but it actually isn't treated as base armor by TC's aura. Base armor = initial no-stat armor + armor gain from agility. Doesn't matter, TC still crushes DK. That seems incredibly arbitrary. What's the point in it supposedly being base armour then? Does any other ability or mechanic in the game differentiate between base armour and bonus armour? first rule of dota is that theres an exception to every rule Ya. I'll probably get shouted down by veterans from the original, but I feel that's something that really needs to be addressed at some point. A lot of it is just plain stupid. You can thank the warcraft 3 engine for most of those. There's probably an exception to this one too, but the oddities are because of dumb things that happened rather than them being programmed that way on purpose.
Some of the oddities add depth to the game (in the same vain as bw's glitches adding depth).
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