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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
April 25 2013 20:07 GMT
#53281
On April 26 2013 04:55 cecek wrote:
If West and East Qualifiers really start in 3 weeks, I'd guess it would be something more elaborate than TI2 qualifiers. Maybe more teams qualifying and less invited?


Which would actually be good call. But take the whole thing with grain of salt. As Tobi said in the tweet, "Easy to crack but little truth to it".
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
April 25 2013 20:09 GMT
#53282
Slardar is fine he just needs a blink dagger,only thing I would want to buff slightly is the cast time on crush.If you aren't retarded or slowed it's pretty easy to dodge right now.
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
April 25 2013 20:11 GMT
#53283
On April 26 2013 05:07 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 04:55 cecek wrote:
If West and East Qualifiers really start in 3 weeks, I'd guess it would be something more elaborate than TI2 qualifiers. Maybe more teams qualifying and less invited?


Which would actually be good call. But take the whole thing with grain of salt. As Tobi said in the tweet, "Easy to crack but little truth to it".

I would like to see a wider qualifiers, maybe only like 2 teams invited per region.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-25 20:55:13
April 25 2013 20:55 GMT
#53284
On April 26 2013 05:09 TheKefka wrote:
Slardar is fine he just needs a blink dagger,only thing I would want to buff slightly is the cast time on crush.If you aren't retarded or slowed it's pretty easy to dodge right now.

Slardar's cast point isn't even that bad. It's 0.36, with Crush having a radius of 350 range. Centaur's stomp is actually straight-up worse in this regard, since Centaur has a cast point of 0.5 and War Stomp has a radius of 315.
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SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13086 Posts
April 25 2013 21:07 GMT
#53285
My account just got banned from trading today and i dont know why....

Made a ticket on the steam support page but no response all day.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
April 25 2013 21:07 GMT
#53286
On April 26 2013 05:55 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 05:09 TheKefka wrote:
Slardar is fine he just needs a blink dagger,only thing I would want to buff slightly is the cast time on crush.If you aren't retarded or slowed it's pretty easy to dodge right now.

Slardar's cast point isn't even that bad. It's 0.36, with Crush having a radius of 350 range. Centaur's stomp is actually straight-up worse in this regard, since Centaur has a cast point of 0.5 and War Stomp has a radius of 315.

this guy is saying that Slardar and Tusk is a dope combo
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
April 25 2013 21:09 GMT
#53287
On April 26 2013 06:07 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 05:55 TheYango wrote:
On April 26 2013 05:09 TheKefka wrote:
Slardar is fine he just needs a blink dagger,only thing I would want to buff slightly is the cast time on crush.If you aren't retarded or slowed it's pretty easy to dodge right now.

Slardar's cast point isn't even that bad. It's 0.36, with Crush having a radius of 350 range. Centaur's stomp is actually straight-up worse in this regard, since Centaur has a cast point of 0.5 and War Stomp has a radius of 315.

this guy is saying that Slardar and Tusk is a dope combo

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Shake n Blake
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada159 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-25 21:11:53
April 25 2013 21:10 GMT
#53288
I gotta admit, this whole 80% armor reduction thing with Elder Titan's Natural Order (in a 275 AOE and is a passive ability, mind you) makes Slardar's ult look outclassed in comparison. Unless you really need the stealth detection, I don't see how massively reduced armor on one hero is better than massively reduced armor on multiple heroes, as well as their magic resist from natural order. Pretty ridiculous if you ask me.

Unless ofc I'm mistaken regarding the superiority of % armor reduction versus flat armor reduction.
Always be searching for an epiphany
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
April 25 2013 21:15 GMT
#53289
On April 26 2013 06:10 Shake n Blake wrote:
I gotta admit, this whole 80% armor reduction thing with Elder Titan's Natural Order (in a 275 AOE and is a passive ability, mind you) makes Slardar's ult look outclassed in comparison. Unless you really need the stealth detection, I don't see how massively reduced armor on one hero is better than massively reduced armor on multiple heroes, as well as their magic resist from natural order. Pretty ridiculous if you ask me.

Unless ofc I'm mistaken regarding the superiority of % armor reduction versus flat armor reduction.

elder titan only affects base armor, aka, an alch with 5 base armor and 15 bonus from an AC will only get -4 armor from Natural order, while a Slardar ult would still be -20

Flat reduction can also take armor negative, a rubick with 5 armor gets reduced to 1 by ET, but is at -15 by Slardar.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
April 25 2013 21:15 GMT
#53290
On April 26 2013 06:10 Shake n Blake wrote:
I gotta admit, this whole 80% armor reduction thing with Elder Titan's Natural Order (in a 275 AOE and is a passive ability, mind you) makes Slardar's ult look outclassed in comparison. Unless you really need the stealth detection, I don't see how massively reduced armor on one hero is better than massively reduced armor on multiple heroes, as well as their magic resist from natural order. Pretty ridiculous if you ask me.

Unless ofc I'm mistaken regarding the superiority of % armor reduction versus flat armor reduction.


it's very easy to reach negative armor values with Slardar, so he is ussually better. TC would be better for heroes with absurd amounts of armor, like DK.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-25 21:19:22
April 25 2013 21:17 GMT
#53291
On April 26 2013 06:15 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 06:10 Shake n Blake wrote:
I gotta admit, this whole 80% armor reduction thing with Elder Titan's Natural Order (in a 275 AOE and is a passive ability, mind you) makes Slardar's ult look outclassed in comparison. Unless you really need the stealth detection, I don't see how massively reduced armor on one hero is better than massively reduced armor on multiple heroes, as well as their magic resist from natural order. Pretty ridiculous if you ask me.

Unless ofc I'm mistaken regarding the superiority of % armor reduction versus flat armor reduction.

elder titan only affects base armor, aka, an alch with 5 base armor and 15 bonus from an AC will only get -4 armor from Natural order, while a Slardar ult would still be -20

Flat reduction can also take armor negative, a rubick with 5 armor gets reduced to 1 by ET, but is at -15 by Slardar.

This is correct.

Also note that the two spells interact well together--that is, if someone is affected by both Amplify Damage AND Natural Order, Natural Order's % reduction will apply first, and then Amplify Damage's -armor will subtract from that.
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-25 21:23:53
April 25 2013 21:23 GMT
#53292
Just had a game of AR where one team got kotl, PL and magnus and the other got medusa. (The other heroes were all so-so for pubbing)
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-25 21:43:53
April 25 2013 21:43 GMT
#53293
http://www.dota2.com/international/announcement

aug 7-11
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
April 25 2013 21:45 GMT
#53294
ITS HAPPENING :D

I'm hype.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
April 25 2013 21:46 GMT
#53295
So in order for slardar to be a more relevant hero, we need to buff treant's base damage.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 25 2013 21:46 GMT
#53296
HYPE

:D

That time might be more convenient than originally planned. Or it might not be. We shall see.
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Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-25 21:50:30
April 25 2013 21:46 GMT
#53297
"The runner-up in each Qualifier will compete in Seattle for the sixteenth and final spot the night before The International."

Now THAT is interesting. They must've enjoyed the match last year that allowed Mousesports to participate.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
April 25 2013 21:48 GMT
#53298
So yeah, 13 invites, 1 western qualified, 1 eastern qualify, and i guess the 2nd place from west & east fight for the final spot?
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
April 25 2013 21:49 GMT
#53299
Thank god, the GD studio will be behind western qualifiers.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
April 25 2013 21:49 GMT
#53300
I like the choices for hosts of the qualifiers.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
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