• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:08
CEST 13:08
KST 20:08
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver4[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon98Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?179Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week #92
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
Remastered crash fix suggestions ASL22 General Discussion Why Protoss Struggles on ASL (Ft. Shuttle, Tulbo) BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?
Tourneys
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 [ASL22] Ro16 Group D [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro16 Group C
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Post Your Watch! Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9637 users

General Discussion - Page 2630

Forum Index > Dota 2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2628 2629 2630 2631 2632 6534 Next
IRC chatter should remain in IRC - http://webchat.quakenet.org/?channels=tl.dota2

Posts that relate to topics with their own thread, such as in News, Tournaments or Strategy should go in those threads.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8923 Posts
April 21 2013 12:51 GMT
#52581
am i the only one who sees a window showing "waiting to watch game" when trying to spectate? it happens for almost every game i try to watch. at least for people on my friends list, havent tried on live games pages
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
April 21 2013 13:26 GMT
#52582
On April 21 2013 13:11 LeLoup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 12:14 Goldfish wrote:
I agree that they shouldn't mute the chat wheel at least.

Anyway as for the reporting discussion - I only report for excessive flaming or just making the game "unfun".

I think it's really good to try to play games (any games) in a relaxed mindset (you eventually get used to it and you rage at less things, things become more fun, etc).

Besides that, I never really take wins or loses seriously in Dota because:

1. Since I'm playing mostly in pubs, so I just play mostly for fun (or course I try to win).

2. The most fun I've had in Dota was just being with reasonable and friendly team mates (mostly in WC3 Dota... mainly because at the time, most people didn't really know what to do and most people seemed to play more to have fun than win + it also helps there was no "MMR" to worry about in at least battle.net WC3).

In terms of reporting bad players - everyone has bad games in Dota. Some of the flaming is really ridiculous and a lot of the times uninformed (rage fest most of the time).

As for people doing bad because they're uninformed? Well inform them and try to help them out (maybe they had like 100 games in a row where everyone flamed them instead of telling them you should go this lane with <x> hero for example).

One way to make the community and experience overall better IMO is for people to rage less about everything. You have to accept that since you're playing a team game, public with randoms, that things like this will eventually happen. If people are really mad at team mates all the time, I wonder if people can ask for some sort of 1v1 mode (like mid only, or maybe you control 2-3 heroes at once). (Of course, in 1v1 settings, I wouldn't be surprised at the opponent going *"Really?" or "I totally out played you, I can't believe I lost" like all the time in SC2 ladder.)

*Someone actually said that to Artosis while he was streaming (on the NA ladder that is, since Korean ladder seemed to be down for him at the time). (Artosis blocked the opponent's natural and third with a pylon. Oh noes, that is totally never happens before and it's cheap and imbalanced and means the player doing it to you is worse than you!)

That's way I never really care too much about winning or losing in team games (I try to win of course, but it's silly to rage at things in pubs if things don't go your way). Instead of raging at someone for doing something wrong, just tell them politely what to do (most of the time, unless they're someone who rages in the first place, they'll listen).


Only problem with advice is that if you type it, it makes it very ambiguous as to how it is said. The tone of the advice never seems to go through correctly.

Good example is a buddy of mine played tiny in a game. He started off going arcanes and blink, and then eventually went ags, AC. I pointed out to him the fact that his build was a bit on the schizophrenic side and he got really defensive about it. Despite me just trying to give good advice (wasting 2k gold on a blink for carry tiny) it came off as something else.

EDIT: Really weird that Skywrath is in CM... I have to assume it is a bug, I mean have there been any other heroes released in Dota 2 that went into CM right away?


I feel like a whole thread could be dedicated to how to communicate with your team in a positive manner. It's an important skill that any pub player, or really any player needs to learn. The key to it in my expirience is to never tell someone they are wrong, but instead just suggest they do X. For example in your tiny game if you noticed he already has arcane boots you could ask him what item he is getting next. If he says blink you could say "Could you get aghs? We need the extra damage early." If he already has blink and mana boots, theres no point in telling him he shouldnt have until after the game is over.

No one likes their mistakes pointed out to them mid game, but most people will be aware of them. A little bit of direction is usually appreciated because it will make them feel like part of the team still.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
April 21 2013 13:28 GMT
#52583
A general question, a friend of mine just asked, that has any HoN team transitioned recently to Dota2, since he heard HoN pro scene is dying for good (not that it was big to begin with). So are there new players/teams who transitioned recently?
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
April 21 2013 13:32 GMT
#52584
On April 21 2013 22:28 Geo.Rion wrote:
A general question, a friend of mine just asked, that has any HoN team transitioned recently to Dota2, since he heard HoN pro scene is dying for good (not that it was big to begin with). So are there new players/teams who transitioned recently?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Fnatic
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
April 21 2013 13:33 GMT
#52585
On April 21 2013 21:51 evilfatsh1t wrote:
am i the only one who sees a window showing "waiting to watch game" when trying to spectate? it happens for almost every game i try to watch. at least for people on my friends list, havent tried on live games pages

Restart steam.
Moderator
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 13:59:04
April 21 2013 13:44 GMT
#52586
On April 21 2013 22:32 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 22:28 Geo.Rion wrote:
A general question, a friend of mine just asked, that has any HoN team transitioned recently to Dota2, since he heard HoN pro scene is dying for good (not that it was big to begin with). So are there new players/teams who transitioned recently?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Fnatic


Well, 'recently' is pretty debatable regarding Fnatic, but they are definitely the highest tier team from HoN. There's quite a few individual players around in some T1/T2 teams.

Jerax for example on Qpad has only recently transferred to Dota2.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
April 21 2013 14:47 GMT
#52587
On April 21 2013 22:44 ReignSupreme. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 22:32 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On April 21 2013 22:28 Geo.Rion wrote:
A general question, a friend of mine just asked, that has any HoN team transitioned recently to Dota2, since he heard HoN pro scene is dying for good (not that it was big to begin with). So are there new players/teams who transitioned recently?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Fnatic


Well, 'recently' is pretty debatable regarding Fnatic, but they are definitely the highest tier team from HoN. There's quite a few individual players around in some T1/T2 teams.

Jerax for example on Qpad has only recently transferred to Dota2.

yea, i knew about Fnatic, but they switched long ago, i was looking for such as "Jerax", thanks
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
April 21 2013 14:56 GMT
#52588
On April 21 2013 23:47 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 22:44 ReignSupreme. wrote:
On April 21 2013 22:32 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On April 21 2013 22:28 Geo.Rion wrote:
A general question, a friend of mine just asked, that has any HoN team transitioned recently to Dota2, since he heard HoN pro scene is dying for good (not that it was big to begin with). So are there new players/teams who transitioned recently?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Fnatic


Well, 'recently' is pretty debatable regarding Fnatic, but they are definitely the highest tier team from HoN. There's quite a few individual players around in some T1/T2 teams.

Jerax for example on Qpad has only recently transferred to Dota2.

yea, i knew about Fnatic, but they switched long ago, i was looking for such as "Jerax", thanks

There is this
http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1cogrx/professional_hon_players_switching_to_dota_2/
which was posted a few days ago, don't really know the HoN scene so I don't know how legit it is.
WriterXiao8~~
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
April 21 2013 15:00 GMT
#52589
On April 21 2013 13:11 LeLoup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 12:14 Goldfish wrote:
I agree that they shouldn't mute the chat wheel at least.

Anyway as for the reporting discussion - I only report for excessive flaming or just making the game "unfun".

I think it's really good to try to play games (any games) in a relaxed mindset (you eventually get used to it and you rage at less things, things become more fun, etc).

Besides that, I never really take wins or loses seriously in Dota because:

1. Since I'm playing mostly in pubs, so I just play mostly for fun (or course I try to win).

2. The most fun I've had in Dota was just being with reasonable and friendly team mates (mostly in WC3 Dota... mainly because at the time, most people didn't really know what to do and most people seemed to play more to have fun than win + it also helps there was no "MMR" to worry about in at least battle.net WC3).

In terms of reporting bad players - everyone has bad games in Dota. Some of the flaming is really ridiculous and a lot of the times uninformed (rage fest most of the time).

As for people doing bad because they're uninformed? Well inform them and try to help them out (maybe they had like 100 games in a row where everyone flamed them instead of telling them you should go this lane with <x> hero for example).

One way to make the community and experience overall better IMO is for people to rage less about everything. You have to accept that since you're playing a team game, public with randoms, that things like this will eventually happen. If people are really mad at team mates all the time, I wonder if people can ask for some sort of 1v1 mode (like mid only, or maybe you control 2-3 heroes at once). (Of course, in 1v1 settings, I wouldn't be surprised at the opponent going *"Really?" or "I totally out played you, I can't believe I lost" like all the time in SC2 ladder.)

*Someone actually said that to Artosis while he was streaming (on the NA ladder that is, since Korean ladder seemed to be down for him at the time). (Artosis blocked the opponent's natural and third with a pylon. Oh noes, that is totally never happens before and it's cheap and imbalanced and means the player doing it to you is worse than you!)

That's way I never really care too much about winning or losing in team games (I try to win of course, but it's silly to rage at things in pubs if things don't go your way). Instead of raging at someone for doing something wrong, just tell them politely what to do (most of the time, unless they're someone who rages in the first place, they'll listen).


Only problem with advice is that if you type it, it makes it very ambiguous as to how it is said. The tone of the advice never seems to go through correctly.

Good example is a buddy of mine played tiny in a game. He started off going arcanes and blink, and then eventually went ags, AC. I pointed out to him the fact that his build was a bit on the schizophrenic side and he got really defensive about it. Despite me just trying to give good advice (wasting 2k gold on a blink for carry tiny) it came off as something else.

EDIT: Really weird that Skywrath is in CM... I have to assume it is a bug, I mean have there been any other heroes released in Dota 2 that went into CM right away?


They put a couple heroes straight into CM mode right before TI2. Templar Assassin, Naga Siren etc
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
Porkz
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark1027 Posts
April 21 2013 15:12 GMT
#52590
is skywrath even enabled in dota 1?
Great supine protoplasmic invertebrate jellies
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 15:31:39
April 21 2013 15:25 GMT
#52591
On April 22 2013 00:12 Porkz wrote:
is skywrath even enabled in dota 1?

In CM? Yup.

Also i hope they change this chat system soon. I enjoy being able to trash talk in games , it makes it so much more fun.

As soon as someone whines in All Chat on the other team you can just talk smack to them all game.

For example an omni said stop "sucking his dick" after we ganked him a few times in a row and I just went with it and had some fun :D. I'm scared to all chat now .
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
April 21 2013 16:11 GMT
#52592
On April 22 2013 00:25 Benjef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 00:12 Porkz wrote:
is skywrath even enabled in dota 1?

In CM? Yup.

Also i hope they change this chat system soon. I enjoy being able to trash talk in games , it makes it so much more fun.

As soon as someone whines in All Chat on the other team you can just talk smack to them all game.

For example an omni said stop "sucking his dick" after we ganked him a few times in a row and I just went with it and had some fun :D. I'm scared to all chat now .


Man, that's the downside I imagine for any formerly (relatively) small and competitive game suddenly blowing up, a lot of thin skinned people who can't handle some good banter.
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
April 21 2013 16:16 GMT
#52593
On April 22 2013 00:12 Porkz wrote:
is skywrath even enabled in dota 1?


Yes, he was used a few times by Pinoy teams in SMM last year.
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
Aixler
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands946 Posts
April 21 2013 16:44 GMT
#52594
Just be careful the first few days, and at the end of the week you can flame all you want!
Fatalize
Profile Joined January 2011
France5210 Posts
April 21 2013 16:45 GMT
#52595
Damn, this new communication ban is one of the most retarded thing I've ever seen in an online game
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
April 21 2013 17:25 GMT
#52596
On April 22 2013 01:11 Fruscainte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 00:25 Benjef wrote:
On April 22 2013 00:12 Porkz wrote:
is skywrath even enabled in dota 1?

In CM? Yup.

Also i hope they change this chat system soon. I enjoy being able to trash talk in games , it makes it so much more fun.

As soon as someone whines in All Chat on the other team you can just talk smack to them all game.

For example an omni said stop "sucking his dick" after we ganked him a few times in a row and I just went with it and had some fun :D. I'm scared to all chat now .


Man, that's the downside I imagine for any formerly (relatively) small and competitive game suddenly blowing up, a lot of thin skinned people who can't handle some good banter.

Guess you're not talking about dota ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
April 21 2013 17:47 GMT
#52597
Would be cool if there was an ignore function that automutes everyone from specific regions.
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
April 21 2013 17:51 GMT
#52598
On April 22 2013 02:47 Daozzt wrote:
Would be cool if there was an ignore function that automutes everyone from specific regions.


No it wouldn't.
DV G
Profile Joined September 2012
Argentina2339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 17:55:39
April 21 2013 17:55 GMT
#52599
On April 22 2013 02:47 Daozzt wrote:
Would be cool if there was an ignore function that automutes everyone from specific regions.


Would be cool if there was an ignore function that automutes everyone who thinks different or is different than Me
Go pro or die trying
Imbajoe
Profile Joined September 2010
United States857 Posts
April 21 2013 18:37 GMT
#52600
On April 22 2013 02:55 DV G wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 02:47 Daozzt wrote:
Would be cool if there was an ignore function that automutes everyone from specific regions.


Would be cool if there was an ignore function that automutes everyone who thinks different or is different than Me


finally a voice of reason
i wear a kitten scarf
Prev 1 2628 2629 2630 2631 2632 6534 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Kung Fu Cup
11:00
2026 Week 23
IntoTheiNu 357
RotterdaM95
SteadfastSC9
WardiTV0
LiquipediaDiscussion
The PondCast
10:00
Episode 109
CranKy Ducklings23
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko266
ProTech126
RotterdaM 95
Rex 61
SteadfastSC 9
ByuN 3
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 1401
Shuttle 1328
firebathero 775
actioN 773
Mini 754
EffOrt 615
Soulkey 543
Horang2 459
Snow 361
Soma 309
[ Show more ]
Light 179
Killer 178
Stork 151
Zeus 128
ZerO 117
Rush 112
Last 111
Pusan 103
Larva 87
hero 66
Shine 57
910 55
Hm[arnc] 52
Barracks 36
ToSsGirL 32
sSak 25
Sharp 20
soO 19
Terrorterran 16
Noble 14
HiyA 8
Trap 6
Sea.KH 5
Britney 0
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1570
byalli781
edward115
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King49
Other Games
singsing1862
B2W.Neo411
JimRising 365
Sick179
ZerO(Twitch)16
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 1393
Other Games
gamesdonequick671
BasetradeTV59
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 69
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP14
• Letter148
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 7
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2974
Other Games
• WagamamaTV156
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
12h 52m
KCM Race Survival
22h 52m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
23h 52m
Cure vs SHIN
herO vs Solar
Percival vs Classic
ByuN vs Rogue
OSC
1d 10h
Replay Cast
1d 12h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 23h
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
GSL
3 days
[ Show More ]
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
4 days
Spirit vs Mixu
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Shine vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Light vs EffOrt
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Calamity Invitational
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.