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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 05:28:36
April 21 2013 05:21 GMT
#52561
On April 21 2013 13:25 TheYango wrote:
Arcanes+Blink is transitioning into carry Tiny is fine for pubs.

The Arcanes+Blink don't give you lategame carry stats, but they give you solo-killing ability and ganking power. Essentially you treat it as an investment into farming (through both kills and through being able to use your spells to rapidly clear creeps) and suppressing the enemy's development enough for you to stay ahead. In a competitive game, there aren't enough solo-kill opportunities for this to be a worthwhile investment overall, but in pub games, Tiny can easily get enough solo kills and successful ganks for Arcanes+Blink to comfortably make the carry transition, despite the lack of combat stats.


I forget the mode, but it was stack vs stack with "real" picks. Might have even been CM.

Problem was it delayed his carry potential when he didn't have to. Phase drums in the midgame makes you fast enough to secure kills, and we weren't lacking initiation or disables. We ended up being pressured for an extra 8-12 minutes because even with ags his attack speed was so painfully slow he couldn't fight anyone, or clear creep waves with just attacks. He still had to rely on his nukes even after ags.

So yes, it can work, but in regards to the game and how it was going, it wasn't the right choice. However I believe we still won in the end. I'll try to find the replay of it.

EDIT: found it. We were up against PL and had a Mag on the team. Granted Mag was terrible (landed like 1 or 2 good RPs) but you can see why we needed him just a bit earlier. Honestly if NS hadn't D/Cd we would have lost 100%

http://dotabuff.com/matches/163665995
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
April 21 2013 05:30 GMT
#52562
in pubs like urs an arcane+blink tiny has much much much much much more impact than a phase+drum tiny. and will snowball much much much faster.
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 05:34:17
April 21 2013 05:34 GMT
#52563
I just like arcanes tiny because it's really handy instaclearing creep waves without using all your mana before you get an aghs for the splash.
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
April 21 2013 05:56 GMT
#52564
On April 21 2013 14:30 aintz wrote:
in pubs like urs an arcane+blink tiny has much much much much much more impact than a phase+drum tiny. and will snowball much much much faster.


In pubs like mine PL, Kotl, Rubick is an offensive trilane, but I digress.

Anyways, I think we've exhausted this topic for now, considering no one seems to disagree with what is being said. Next topic: Tree?
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
April 21 2013 06:18 GMT
#52565
Lol played a 5-stack who picked the same heroes over and over again. Aura stackers. Drow/Luna/VS/BM + Mirana for the utility.
Frost
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1042 Posts
April 21 2013 06:31 GMT
#52566
Just had an epic game of throws where my team dominated early game, then proceeded to lose every fight mid-game even though we had enigma+magnus (they made some questionable decisions). We managed to stall until 50~ minutes with only one rax down and that is when me (gyrocopter) and kunkka finished our divine rapier and wiped them. Highlight of the game was when kunkka with his 2x daedalus and 2x rapier crit for 2900 and oneshot the other teams luna and night stalker XD
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 21 2013 06:46 GMT
#52567
If you're behind Phase+Drum is better than Arcanes+Blink. To solo-kill with Arcanes+Blink you need to have a level advantage.
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
April 21 2013 06:55 GMT
#52568
lothars
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
April 21 2013 08:11 GMT
#52569
Liquid guy playing new hero aka Korok playing Skywrath!
http://www.joindota.com/en/livestreams/739-liquid-korok
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
April 21 2013 08:18 GMT
#52570
On April 21 2013 17:11 Kaniol wrote:
Liquid guy playing new hero aka Korok playing Skywrath!
http://www.joindota.com/en/livestreams/739-liquid-korok

How dare you link to the joinDota site for that.

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kaykaykay
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore637 Posts
April 21 2013 08:26 GMT
#52571
Has anyone linked Part 2 of LGD.Xiao8's chinese dating show?

Starve the ego, feed the soul.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
April 21 2013 08:57 GMT
#52572
On April 21 2013 17:18 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 17:11 Kaniol wrote:
Liquid guy playing new hero aka Korok playing Skywrath!
http://www.joindota.com/en/livestreams/739-liquid-korok

How dare you link to the joinDota site for that.


Baited! D:
Actually i like joinDota's graphical design because i prefer to have everything that's not a stream black ^^
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
April 21 2013 09:00 GMT
#52573
On April 21 2013 17:57 Kaniol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 17:18 Firebolt145 wrote:
On April 21 2013 17:11 Kaniol wrote:
Liquid guy playing new hero aka Korok playing Skywrath!
http://www.joindota.com/en/livestreams/739-liquid-korok

How dare you link to the joinDota site for that.


Baited! D:
Actually i like joinDota's graphical design because i prefer to have everything that's not a stream black ^^

There is a noir plugin for Teamliquid, look it up.

Played a slot 1 Skywrath today, rushing 3 nulls for ganking power is pretty damn legit
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
April 21 2013 09:21 GMT
#52574
On April 21 2013 18:00 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 17:57 Kaniol wrote:
On April 21 2013 17:18 Firebolt145 wrote:
On April 21 2013 17:11 Kaniol wrote:
Liquid guy playing new hero aka Korok playing Skywrath!
http://www.joindota.com/en/livestreams/739-liquid-korok

How dare you link to the joinDota site for that.


Baited! D:
Actually i like joinDota's graphical design because i prefer to have everything that's not a stream black ^^

There is a noir plugin for Teamliquid, look it up.

Played a slot 1 Skywrath today, rushing 3 nulls for ganking power is pretty damn legit
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DONT JUDGE ME

I'm judging you bro

3 nulls man? Cmooon. Get a force staff or Orchid or something
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
April 21 2013 09:33 GMT
#52575
Or just a RoA and a lothars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
April 21 2013 10:27 GMT
#52576
I wish people would stop recommending orchids on him lol. Your right click is never going to be as strong as having enough mana/int to reliably keep up constant casting of your combo+ult and there are much better items for that like sheep/euls/atos. Not to mention its already built into his kit, there's a reason why people don't get more lifesteal on skeleton king or crit on jugg-you could be spending that gold (which is already going to be hard to come by if you're not snowballing because his wave clear is awful) on something that the hero doesn't already have.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
April 21 2013 10:47 GMT
#52577
So I didn't report anyone since the last patch but over my last 4 logins I got the "we have recently taken action"-message. Valve, wtf.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
April 21 2013 10:52 GMT
#52578
they're in your mind yo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
April 21 2013 11:19 GMT
#52579
On April 21 2013 19:47 r.Evo wrote:
So I didn't report anyone since the last patch but over my last 4 logins I got the "we have recently taken action"-message. Valve, wtf.

its probably people who you reported previously, who are getting reported and muted on the new system and your report is still in the system so you get a notification
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
April 21 2013 11:51 GMT
#52580
On April 21 2013 20:19 Kiante wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 19:47 r.Evo wrote:
So I didn't report anyone since the last patch but over my last 4 logins I got the "we have recently taken action"-message. Valve, wtf.

its probably people who you reported previously, who are getting reported and muted on the new system and your report is still in the system so you get a notification

Yup. It's as if suddenly Valve is kicking everyone in the balls.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
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