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beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
April 20 2013 21:26 GMT
#52521
Much, much more. I've started to interpret "report that guy" as "wow I am so mad at that guy for some dumbass reason, also I am a dumbass"

I wish everyone would chill the fuck out. We never had these systems in ye olde bnet dota. Well, except banlist which was probably even stupider.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12163 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 21:33:25
April 20 2013 21:32 GMT
#52522
On April 21 2013 06:23 Infernal_dream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 06:11 Yurie wrote:
On April 21 2013 05:52 FinestHour wrote:
the game has taken action against a player i reported
for demacia


I made 3 new accounts when they added the 4 reports per week limit. My main account has around 1.1k reports. So I tend to get that most times I start the game.

As for needing chat. If they made it so one could see which lanes people are moving towards then I could live with a queue without chat.


1.1k reports against it? Or you've reported people 1.1k times? Either way that's an extremely high number and people seem to use the report feature much more often than it should be used.


As far as I know you can't see how often you have been reported. There are no guidelines for reporting so I report behaviour that people can adjust and that effects my enjoyment. Things like flaming, spamming (mainly trade bots/people, probably have 300 reports on those), loading slowly etc.

On April 21 2013 06:26 beef42 wrote:
Much, much more. I've started to interpret "report that guy" as "wow I am so mad at that guy for some dumbass reason, also I am a dumbass"

I wish everyone would chill the fuck out. We never had these systems in ye olde bnet dota. Well, except banlist which was probably even stupider.


I liked playing in inhouse leagues that had strict rules. In normal pubs one just left if there was a person that was bothersome.
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
April 20 2013 21:35 GMT
#52523
Dude I am not trying to be insulting or judgemental, and as a disclaimer I of course respect your right to do whatever you please, but...

What the hell man? Reporting people for loading slowly? For flaming? Are you serious?
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 21:38:27
April 20 2013 21:37 GMT
#52524
Loading slowly ? bhahaha. I would like to know how one adjusts that

Did that go in Text Abuse, Voice abuse, Intentional feeding or Intentional Ability Abuse ? If he failed to load did he get the full package and got reported by all your accounts ?

Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12163 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 21:47:14
April 20 2013 21:44 GMT
#52525
On April 21 2013 06:37 SpiZe wrote:
Loading slowly ? bhahaha. I would like to know how one adjusts that

Did that go in Text Abuse, Voice abuse, Intentional feeding or Intentional Ability Abuse ? If he failed to load did he get the full package and got reported by all your accounts ?


Intentional Ability Abuse, of course. The ability to load slowly or not at all. I never do multi account reports. I can't be bothered to sign in on all of them when I am in the game to play on one.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
April 20 2013 21:49 GMT
#52526
On April 21 2013 06:44 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 06:37 SpiZe wrote:
Loading slowly ? bhahaha. I would like to know how one adjusts that

Did that go in Text Abuse, Voice abuse, Intentional feeding or Intentional Ability Abuse ? If he failed to load did he get the full package and got reported by all your accounts ?


Intentional Ability Abuse, of course. The ability to load slowly or not at all. I never do multi account reports. I can't be bothered to sign in on all of them when I am in the game to play on one.

This cant be serious.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
April 20 2013 21:50 GMT
#52527
On April 21 2013 06:26 beef42 wrote:
Much, much more. I've started to interpret "report that guy" as "wow I am so mad at that guy for some dumbass reason, also I am a dumbass"

I wish everyone would chill the fuck out. We never had these systems in ye olde bnet dota. Well, except banlist which was probably even stupider.


Agreed. I wish they would get rid of all these stupid report systems. Just put the person on block. Ez. The tribunal thing from LoL is just hilariously stupid. Trolls are only effective if you allow them to be. Sure you can't stop them from feeding but in all the games I've watched and played I've never seen anyone actually just move and feed. Getting flamed or dealing with a loud mouth douchebag sucks but ignore makes it all go away.
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
April 20 2013 21:53 GMT
#52528
You don't think such frivolous use of the report feature destroys its credibility? Personally I only use it if it's completely clear that the player in question is not playing to win for his team, i.e intentional feeding, intentional abuse of wisp/chen/tiny/disruptor/etc. Anything less I can deal with myself through the mute function. I can even fight ability abusers with disablehelp, although they're still getting reported.

It doesn't matter how bad someone is, if I can tell he's at least trying to win the game he's not getting reported no matter how much bullshit he spouts in chat, how many S&Ys he buys, how slow he loads.

For this reasons I have less than ten reports in more than 1500 games. I think if everyone used the system like this, it would be a lot more effective in identifying the actual shitters.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12163 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 22:08:15
April 20 2013 22:02 GMT
#52529
On April 21 2013 06:53 beef42 wrote:
You don't think such frivolous use of the report feature destroys its credibility? Personally I only use it if it's completely clear that the player in question is not playing to win for his team, i.e intentional feeding, intentional abuse of wisp/chen/tiny/disruptor/etc. Anything less I can deal with myself through the mute function. I can even fight ability abusers with disablehelp, although they're still getting reported.

It doesn't matter how bad someone is, if I can tell he's at least trying to win the game he's not getting reported no matter how much bullshit he spouts in chat, how many S&Ys he buys, how slow he loads.

For this reasons I have less than ten reports in more than 1500 games. I think if everyone used the system like this, it would be a lot more effective in identifying the actual shitters.


Somebody actively trying to lose or ruin the game will drop in rating. The system handles them just fine. Leaving reports for things that detract from a fun experience. Of course you report for the first case as well since that is a more extreme form of anti fun but for those it isn't needed.

edit,

If they actually put out guidelines better than the current ones I would probably follow them. But as it is I simply ask if this is fun or not and if the person can effect it or not. I have very few reports made for intentional feeding since that is having a bad game and it doesn't detract from my fun.
Kammalleri
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada613 Posts
April 20 2013 22:11 GMT
#52530
On April 21 2013 06:11 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 05:52 FinestHour wrote:
the game has taken action against a player i reported
for demacia


I made 3 new accounts when they added the 4 reports per week limit. My main account has around 1.1k reports. So I tend to get that most times I start the game.

As for needing chat. If they made it so one could see which lanes people are moving towards then I could live with a queue without chat.


I'm pretty much in the same boat, but I dont care about battle points or whatever so low prio doesnt reallt change anything to me, but what I'm sick of is the better you get the shittier the player you play with so you rage more and get reported more too...

When the only game you win in an evening is going 17-4-1* as a windrunner it really sucks. I can't get games like this every freakin game and if I don't we lose cause my team is garbage. Soooooo sick of it
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
April 20 2013 22:14 GMT
#52531
Fact: The EMS DotA2 thread has more views/comments than the WCS AM Qualifier thread.

Mildly interesting seeing DotA2 is taking over TeamLiquid
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 22:19:39
April 20 2013 22:17 GMT
#52532
A LAN event with the top western teams has more views/comments than a Starcraft 2 qualifier that has primarily featured random foreigners crushing platinum league players? Who knew...

EDIT: Not to mention that this online qualifier is at the same amount of viewers as EMS was, despite the differing skill level mentioned before.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 22:21:42
April 20 2013 22:18 GMT
#52533
On April 21 2013 07:14 NB wrote:
Fact: The EMS DotA2 thread has more views/comments than the WCS AM Qualifier thread.

Mildly interesting seeing DotA2 is taking over TeamLiquid


Yeah, EMS has being going for months while the WCS thread started today. Not sure if it is a fair comparison.

It you do it by looking at views/days, suddenly the WCS thread has thousands of times more views. OMG DOTA IS DIEING
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
April 20 2013 23:15 GMT
#52534
On April 21 2013 06:44 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 06:37 SpiZe wrote:
Loading slowly ? bhahaha. I would like to know how one adjusts that

Did that go in Text Abuse, Voice abuse, Intentional feeding or Intentional Ability Abuse ? If he failed to load did he get the full package and got reported by all your accounts ?


Intentional Ability Abuse, of course. The ability to load slowly or not at all. I never do multi account reports. I can't be bothered to sign in on all of them when I am in the game to play on one.

are you actually serious
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
April 20 2013 23:32 GMT
#52535
On April 21 2013 08:15 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 06:44 Yurie wrote:
On April 21 2013 06:37 SpiZe wrote:
Loading slowly ? bhahaha. I would like to know how one adjusts that

Did that go in Text Abuse, Voice abuse, Intentional feeding or Intentional Ability Abuse ? If he failed to load did he get the full package and got reported by all your accounts ?


Intentional Ability Abuse, of course. The ability to load slowly or not at all. I never do multi account reports. I can't be bothered to sign in on all of them when I am in the game to play on one.

are you actually serious

Standard Dota mentality tbh.

People get so mad at this game that they hate people for the stupidest reasons. I think they also get bored of being on a waiting screen or being dead and need something to fill the time. Basically, chill out, guys.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
April 20 2013 23:35 GMT
#52536
Bejeweled addon for DotA!!
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
April 20 2013 23:38 GMT
#52537
On April 21 2013 08:15 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 06:44 Yurie wrote:
On April 21 2013 06:37 SpiZe wrote:
Loading slowly ? bhahaha. I would like to know how one adjusts that

Did that go in Text Abuse, Voice abuse, Intentional feeding or Intentional Ability Abuse ? If he failed to load did he get the full package and got reported by all your accounts ?


Intentional Ability Abuse, of course. The ability to load slowly or not at all. I never do multi account reports. I can't be bothered to sign in on all of them when I am in the game to play on one.

are you actually serious


Lol, wow, that's pretty sad. Are you intentionally trying to bog down the report system with frivolous crap?

I also enjoy the "REPORT XXXXXX FOR ABANDON!!!1". I'm pretty sure abandons were never an actual reportable offense since the system tracks them. In effect you report yourself for abandoning and the punishment is low priority if you do it too much.

Do you stare out the window and call 911 constantly at any slow moving person as well? Jesus
LiquidDota Staff
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 23:41:09
April 20 2013 23:40 GMT
#52538
Skywrath is pretty fun, was he seen anything in competitive dota 1? With a rod of aui i run around ganking people left and right, pugna really rains on my parade though. His silence is strong but he's obviously gankable as hell though.
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
April 20 2013 23:41 GMT
#52539
On April 21 2013 08:38 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 08:15 Shaella wrote:
On April 21 2013 06:44 Yurie wrote:
On April 21 2013 06:37 SpiZe wrote:
Loading slowly ? bhahaha. I would like to know how one adjusts that

Did that go in Text Abuse, Voice abuse, Intentional feeding or Intentional Ability Abuse ? If he failed to load did he get the full package and got reported by all your accounts ?


Intentional Ability Abuse, of course. The ability to load slowly or not at all. I never do multi account reports. I can't be bothered to sign in on all of them when I am in the game to play on one.

are you actually serious


Lol, wow, that's pretty sad. Are you intentionally trying to bog down the report system with frivolous crap?

I also enjoy the "REPORT XXXXXX FOR ABANDON!!!1". I'm pretty sure abandons were never an actual reportable offense since the system tracks them. In effect you report yourself for abandoning and the punishment is low priority if you do it too much.

Do you stare out the window and call 911 constantly at any slow moving person as well? Jesus


The "report XXX for being bad" annoys the hell out of me, happens like every game.
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
April 20 2013 23:45 GMT
#52540
I've never actually in a game where I had cause to report anyone for intentional feed or ability abuse. I used to report people for PL picking, for about a week . I think games where I'd report people for being toxic in chat is in the single digits.

I have nearly 1k games played at this stage and don't run into half the things that you guys talk, maybe I'm luck :S

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Or I solo q very rarely hehehe
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