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wairai
Profile Joined May 2012
Malaysia1000 Posts
April 08 2013 12:43 GMT
#50961
skywrath is like zeus 2.0 also

too much BURST! those silence(dmg amp%) + ult is sure kill though

but he need mana alot to kill though lvl 1 ult was around 350 :/
Yungin' Leanin' with Pourple Drink
tauon
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Australia1278 Posts
April 08 2013 12:49 GMT
#50962
On April 08 2013 20:49 Andr3 wrote:
Skywrath looks interesting, but I can't wait for that fire panda to come to DotA2. Tried him in DotA1 and he's OP as well as immensely fun.

That 6-sec spammable omnislash he has is so silly, but you can do a lot of cool jukes in conjunction with his ulti. He also has a similar ability compared to ion shell in that it does twice less damage but also provides a 500 spell damage shield, insane.

All these "new" heroes Icefrog made seem quite strong if you look at their abilities, I wonder how much nerfs are inbound.

They nerfed him quite a bit recently. I think he's balanced enough for cm. Most new heroes start off OP and then are nerfed into the ground.
Road to 6sange
duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
April 08 2013 12:50 GMT
#50963
Sky is worst than Zeus and I actually have more faith on seeing Skywrath (if he doesn't suffer from changes or nerfs) being played competitively than Troll itself. We shall wait and see..
"I really like Marauders and Marines." - Flash
Teton
Profile Joined May 2010
France1656 Posts
April 08 2013 12:57 GMT
#50964
Troll is an absolute beast with a few disable in the team. miss chances, sho, bashes, massive attack speed. Probably fp tier.

Cant wait for terrorblade also
Vxed
Profile Joined April 2007
Norway239 Posts
April 08 2013 13:13 GMT
#50965
Troll, Tiny, Wisp, next level backdooring.
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
April 08 2013 13:22 GMT
#50966
On April 08 2013 20:49 Andr3 wrote:
Skywrath looks interesting, but I can't wait for that fire panda to come to DotA2. Tried him in DotA1 and he's OP as well as immensely fun.

That 6-sec spammable omnislash he has is so silly, but you can do a lot of cool jukes in conjunction with his ulti. He also has a similar ability compared to ion shell in that it does twice less damage but also provides a 500 spell damage shield, insane.

All these "new" heroes Icefrog made seem quite strong if you look at their abilities, I wonder how much nerfs are inbound.

I'd rather have Icefrog buff our current hero pool. The new heroes are indeed quite good ,though most people overestimate them at times, but it would be a shame if the game was homogenised for the sake of balance.
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
April 08 2013 13:40 GMT
#50967
^I don't think anyone wants that, "OP" stuff is what makes DotA fun.

I mean I can't say much because I only fiddled with the new heroes a bit but even on paper their abilities look super strong. We'll see what happens when they're ported to DotA2.

Or someone who plays a ton of DotA1 could give some feedback, Xin&Phoenix are sick imo ~
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
April 08 2013 13:48 GMT
#50968
On April 08 2013 20:26 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 15:48 Kipsate wrote:
The problem with picking Troll Wl solely based upon his ultimate is that at the end of the day you still have a Troll WL on your team.

He's not exactly a terrible hero.

Honestly, I can't see Troll Warlord ever make it without being banned or picked in a pro game in his current state. Whether he would be first pick/ban I'm not 100% sure, but I suspect he would be. Free better-than-a-Hyperstone for everyone at levels 6, 11 and 16? Not bad. . .



Pusher Warlord

the pressure that you can put with troll and a split push strat is really big
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12163 Posts
April 08 2013 14:45 GMT
#50969
Troll is even a decent laner with dual nukes at low cost. The hero is more broken than any of the current Dota 2 heroes in CM. Can make a hero like treant a good carry, if a hero can make that happen it is op.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 14:55:22
April 08 2013 14:55 GMT
#50970
Does anyone know when Atod 3 starts? I know it's today.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
April 08 2013 15:04 GMT
#50971
Pretty sure that it is not today, it says that they release the bracket when valve adds the ticket.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
April 08 2013 15:07 GMT
#50972
http://www.joindota.com/en/news/8123-update-atod-showdown-returns-once-again

"The groups will be drawn and the main competition will take place starting April 8th, 2013, and thanks again to Valve, it will be availibe inside the Dota 2 client on DotaTV."
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
GentleDrill
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom672 Posts
April 08 2013 15:51 GMT
#50973
I've never seen anybody talk about Winter Wyvern. What's considered the best way to play him? It seems Arctic Burn and possibly Cold Embrace are the kind of abilities you'd use to win a lane 1v1, while Splinter Blast and Winter's Curse are teamfight oriented, so maybe solo mid into teamfighting after core items/levels.
SirMilford
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1269 Posts
April 08 2013 15:53 GMT
#50974
Why doesn't reddit just have a huge thread somewhere that they can use to bitch about how they aren't racist but they really are. Australians played with people that have awful connections/don't speak english and honestly i find most of them pretty good. Just use mia/care/r5 etc and people understand.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
April 08 2013 16:00 GMT
#50975
On April 09 2013 00:53 SirMilford wrote:
Why doesn't reddit just have a huge thread somewhere that they can use to bitch about how they aren't racist but they really are. Australians played with people that have awful connections/don't speak english and honestly i find most of them pretty good. Just use mia/care/r5 etc and people understand.

. . .the fuck is "r5"?
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
whoso
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany523 Posts
April 08 2013 16:00 GMT
#50976
On April 08 2013 20:26 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 15:48 Kipsate wrote:
The problem with picking Troll Wl solely based upon his ultimate is that at the end of the day you still have a Troll WL on your team.

He's not exactly a terrible hero.

Honestly, I can't see Troll Warlord ever make it without being banned or picked in a pro game in his current state. Whether he would be first pick/ban I'm not 100% sure, but I suspect he would be. Free better-than-a-Hyperstone for everyone at levels 6, 11 and 16? Not bad. . .


he is anything but a bad hero, hes actually insane. very strong laning, comes online fast and hard, as in he can go head to head with naix and whipe him, and all that is not even considering how much the ultimate adds to your entire team. it cant take long until we see him picked regularly in comp dota.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 16:10:36
April 08 2013 16:04 GMT
#50977
On April 09 2013 00:51 GentleDrill wrote:
I've never seen anybody talk about Winter Wyvern. What's considered the best way to play him? It seems Arctic Burn and possibly Cold Embrace are the kind of abilities you'd use to win a lane 1v1, while Splinter Blast and Winter's Curse are teamfight oriented, so maybe solo mid into teamfighting after core items/levels.

WW is a weak solo laner. He has good spells, but his base stats are really poor (41 average damage, 425 range, slow projectile speed, 285 base MS). Arctic Burn also isn't that good of a solo laning skill because it has a ridiculously long cooldown at low ranks.

I've seen him have better effectiveness as a support.
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FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
April 08 2013 16:25 GMT
#50978
On April 08 2013 21:26 Grettin wrote:
Ah, makes sense. I stopped playing Dota 1 after some of these heroes that are coming out. Don't know them. T_T



The new hero that i am not familiar with is Skywrath,Fire Panda,Wyvern and also that hero that forces another hero to fight him 1v1 with that ulti.He rides a horse.
Play your best
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
April 08 2013 16:26 GMT
#50979
On April 09 2013 01:25 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 21:26 Grettin wrote:
Ah, makes sense. I stopped playing Dota 1 after some of these heroes that are coming out. Don't know them. T_T



The new hero that i am not familiar with is Skywrath,Fire Panda,Wyvern and also that hero that forces another hero to fight him 1v1 with that ulti.He rides a horse.

Legion Commander is who you're thinking of

don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
April 08 2013 16:26 GMT
#50980
On April 09 2013 01:25 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 21:26 Grettin wrote:
Ah, makes sense. I stopped playing Dota 1 after some of these heroes that are coming out. Don't know them. T_T



The new hero that i am not familiar with is Skywrath,Fire Panda,Wyvern and also that hero that forces another hero to fight him 1v1 with that ulti.He rides a horse.

He is also racist. Legion Commander. There are newer heroes than those though.
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