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RoyGBiv_13
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1275 Posts
March 29 2013 21:42 GMT
#49781
On March 30 2013 05:59 Darkren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2013 05:30 maru~ wrote:
On March 30 2013 05:28 Kipsate wrote:
Phantom Lancer can fight back with lance, Riki can not, if you engage with blink strike then he will outtrade you when you run back.

You are underestimating Riki's early damage potential.


I actually think Riki mid would work well, but it would have to be versus a melee hero like you said, Mag or Bm. The other thing u haven't talked about is that you would need a lineup with another hero that could come over and control mid when riki is 6. That means hell be prob playing a lv 4 vs a lv 6 with bottle mid, u can surely see how this would be very hard.

It could work but u would need a very strong draft, or a push lineup that seeks to push the tower when riki hits 6.


Normally, yes, the over leveled person mid would stomp the level 4, but in pubs, the mid will be having to react to other lanes at that point, and may not want to towerdive the level 4 quietly farming under the tower.
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
ViZe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1513 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-29 21:53:29
March 29 2013 21:49 GMT
#49782
Riki might beat solomid Chen. Maybe PA or spectre
Really though Riki is really weak in lane. His skills are really much better for ganking

e: nevermind actually spectre is probably pretty strong in 1v1 situations because of dagger/desolate (at least compared to riki)
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-29 22:21:18
March 29 2013 22:10 GMT
#49783
On March 30 2013 06:10 Jetaap wrote:
I was thinking about ways to build slardar, wouldn't shadowblade be a decent item on him? It gives attack speed and allows to initiate with his stun, maybe it could be a viable replacement for blink (I realize blink is harder to counter that a shadowblade, but it also doesn't give damage). Also if it's possible to stack the bonus speed from sprint and windwalk would give really nice speed to slardar for escape and chasing.
So what do you think about going treads/shadowblade/armlet/bkb (maybe bkb before) to play a semi-carry slardar?

A couple awkward points about Lothar's on Slardar:
- It costs more mana to use than Blink. This is significant because Slardar's early mana usage is actually pretty tight, but he doesn't actually want to buy mana items.
- It delays your BKB by ~1000 gold. Your teamfight core is intiation item+BKB. The offensive stats are nice, but ultimately they don't really dictate your teamfight presence as Slardar.
- It's a solo-kill focused item on a hero that's a little awkward solo-killing with it. Ultimately most of the "good" Lothar's users are heroes that have some form of solo-killing potential or burst damage (SF Lothar's->double Raze burst, Drow solo killing iwth arrows+silence, Kunkka with X->Torrent->Ship combo, etc.). The problem is that with the way Slardar's spells interact, there's no "good" way for him to really combo out of Lothar's unless you happen to get lucky and bash on your Lothar's break hit.

On March 30 2013 06:36 dismiss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2013 05:41 Daozzt wrote:
Riki mid is awful. He has no laning presence and gets out traded by everyone. Here is a better question: what hero doesn't shit on riki mid?

Witch doctor xaxaxa

Witch Doctor is actually a pretty good mid hero. ~56 base damage with decent animation and projectile speed, 600 autoattack range, good creep control spell for pushing out waves, decent gank assist and killing potential.

On March 30 2013 06:42 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
Normally, yes, the over leveled person mid would stomp the level 4, but in pubs, the mid will be having to react to other lanes at that point, and may not want to towerdive the level 4 quietly farming under the tower.

The problem is that if the other mid can reliably shove waves into tower, then he is free to countergank anything Riki does.

If the hero against him mid can't put any pressure on him, then the moment Riki shows, the Mag or BM is going to TP Roar/RP and counter-kill you because in 2v2/3v3 fights Roar and RP are far more fight-changing than anything Riki can do at that level without items.
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dfs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Russian Federation4050 Posts
March 29 2013 22:12 GMT
#49784
Dota2magazine just tweeted a bunch of cool old concept arts
http://vk.com/dota2magazine?w=wall-48620750_292/a85b411576115ce15b
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/Q1jSb9X.jpg (c) Shiro; http://i.imgur.com/lSDLLKb.png (c) drav
duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
March 29 2013 22:30 GMT
#49785
http://dota2.sgamer.com/news/201303/149679.html

Since I have almost no clue on what is in this article, should we worry about something?
"I really like Marauders and Marines." - Flash
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-29 22:34:25
March 29 2013 22:34 GMT
#49786
On March 30 2013 07:30 duoform wrote:
http://dota2.sgamer.com/news/201303/149679.html

Since I have almost no clue on what is in this article, should we worry about something?

top tencent(who bought riot) employee transfers to perfect world(who will distribute DOTA2 in CN). ect
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-29 22:37:02
March 29 2013 22:34 GMT
#49787
On March 30 2013 07:30 duoform wrote:
http://dota2.sgamer.com/news/201303/149679.html

Since I have almost no clue on what is in this article, should we worry about something?


I tried to translate it using google but the only thing I got is that LoL is up to 500m players

Tencent has announced that the LOL the highest in the world Online reached 500 million.


The rest was a disaster but post above me apparently figured some of it out.
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
March 29 2013 22:41 GMT
#49788
On March 30 2013 07:34 Esoterikk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2013 07:30 duoform wrote:
http://dota2.sgamer.com/news/201303/149679.html

Since I have almost no clue on what is in this article, should we worry about something?


I tried to translate it using google but the only thing I got is that LoL is up to 500m players

Show nested quote +
Tencent has announced that the LOL the highest in the world Online reached 500 million.


The rest was a disaster but post above me apparently figured some of it out.

Didn't one of the Asian lol distributors already announce before that lol has over 100 million players but they quickly got called back? With the amount of referral farming going on I take any numbers from Riot with a pile of salt.

Anyway, finally Defense 3 Finals tomorrow. Took long enough. I hope they revise their model but knowing joindota that will take another 6 months.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
March 29 2013 22:45 GMT
#49789
if anyone got any of the 3 new chests that they dont plan on opening/want ill take em
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
March 29 2013 22:56 GMT
#49790
i got a rare chest today, openned it got an uncommon. winner!
akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
March 29 2013 23:03 GMT
#49791
On March 30 2013 07:56 aintz wrote:
i got a rare chest today, openned it got an uncommon. winner!

I got a strange Dark Magic cloak for Invoker. This is the single chest I ever opened, makes me want to open more...

<insert conspiracy theory here>
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
March 29 2013 23:07 GMT
#49792
they successfully baited you into open your first chest by putting the RARE tag on it.

i myself open 1 of everykind of chest i get and delete the rest. my way of supporting valve since i never paid for the game!
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
March 29 2013 23:10 GMT
#49793
I opened 2 chests hoping for Lina's catalyst cap.

Then I realised I could have just traded a single key for it directly.

Sometimes I think I really am a moron.
akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
March 29 2013 23:12 GMT
#49794
How DotA works: you play the game, find it awesome so you spread the word and decide to buy something to support them. Valve has created the game equivalent to perpetual motion!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 29 2013 23:13 GMT
#49795
On March 30 2013 08:07 aintz wrote:
they successfully baited you into open your first chest by putting the RARE tag on it.

i myself open 1 of everykind of chest i get and delete the rest. my way of supporting valve since i never paid for the game!

At least this practice means you will never open two chests with the same item.

Unless it's a super-rare drop from both chests (and I don't think I'd complain about opening two of the same rare courier).
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Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
March 29 2013 23:15 GMT
#49796
I opened about.....8 of those Crystalline chests just to support valve. Got 6 wards, and 2 items. Rare Skeleton King Sword and Rare Centaur Warhorn. Disappointing to say the least.
Asymmetric
Profile Joined June 2011
Scotland1309 Posts
March 29 2013 23:15 GMT
#49797
Anyone got any thoughts on Centaur Warrunner in both pubs and competitive?

I've been messing around with him recently and have stumbled upon an unusual rich winning streak. His burst damage in the laning phase is very high with double edge+stomp, he farms well with double edge and his strength gain can spiral out of control if he gets off to a good start. His stampede appears to be a powerful and versatile team tool.

Anyone got vids/replays of pros messing around with him?

NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 29 2013 23:15 GMT
#49798
yeah, if you are experience into the trading world you could easily realize that the only time you wana open chest is to get the new courier with special effect. Otherwise you could get pretty much any item you want in that chest at a lower price(chance wise)
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
March 29 2013 23:18 GMT
#49799
On March 30 2013 08:15 Slardar wrote:
I opened about.....8 of those Crystalline chests just to support valve. Got 6 wards, and 2 items. Rare Skeleton King Sword and Rare Centaur Warhorn. Disappointing to say the least.


The Crystalinne chests weren't really good honestly. Previous ones were way better.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 29 2013 23:18 GMT
#49800
On March 30 2013 08:15 Asymmetric wrote:
Anyone got any thoughts on Centaur Warrunner in both pubs and competitive?

I've been messing around with him recently and have stumbled upon an unusual rich winning streak. His burst damage in the laning phase is very high with double edge+stomp, he farms well with double edge and his strength gain can spiral out of control if he gets off to a good start. His stampede appears to be a powerful and versatile team tool.

Anyone got vids/replays of pros messing around with him?


He's not in -CM yet. In pubs, you're right he is a strong hero.
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