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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
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LazyFailKid
Canada750 Posts
On March 30 2013 03:09 Comeh wrote: I'm waiting for someone to pick an enchant / chen with treant and leshrac and get 2 tower kills in the first 3-5 minutes with leech seed abuse. Add a BB to instaclear waves and legit TI3 strats gg As a side note, BB + tree is pretty trolololololololol | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On March 30 2013 02:29 NB wrote: To be fair, its in control who started that kpop thread and look where he is now :-) @torte: need more wins! Try harder! carry me ): I'm back in normal ranked games because I mass-lost with Meepo | ||
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ViZe
United States1513 Posts
.. sorry Really though I still feel like Treant does nothing at all. He is really just annoying in the early game and does very little after leach seed wears off in terms of strength and people can push down towers quickly. He feels like 1/2 of a hero or something. Just really weird | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On March 30 2013 04:05 ViZe wrote: I'm personally a fan of Tree + Axe .. sorry Really though I still feel like Treant does nothing at all. He is really just annoying in the early game and does very little after leach seed wears off in terms of strength and people can push down towers quickly. He feels like 1/2 of a hero or something. Just really weird Leech seed has the effectiveness of a lina ulti until level 11 or so, at which time his ultimate reaches a peak of usefulness. | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
Probably a stupid idea, but I'm wondering if it is remotely viable. Takes the pressure off of him - he normally has to be played 1 position in pro games, after all, because obviously he doesn't jungle well and can't offlane - allowing him to focus more on ganking in a Nyx-style way than farming. | ||
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Grettin
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On March 30 2013 04:47 Grettin wrote: Whats the normal item build for Bristle? http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=134962374 | ||
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maru~
2345 Posts
On March 30 2013 04:44 FuzzyJAM wrote: Throwing this out of left field, but could Riki mid work? It would mostly have to be against melee mids, but I feel like he could dominate and get those fast levels and decent farm. Smoke is such a good skill, and Backstab allows you to get easy last hits while his Blink Strike is a semi-acceptable escape. Plus with his fast 6, he forces Sentries earlier than you'd want. Probably a stupid idea, but I'm wondering if it is remotely viable. Takes the pressure off of him - he normally has to be played 1 position in pro games, after all, because obviously he doesn't jungle well and can't offlane - allowing him to focus more on ganking in a Nyx-style way than farming. Sure, it's very strong actually. PMS first with some pulled heals combined with his very high base armor of 6 and the dmg from Backstab makes him very potent. He's also a hero that is quite level dependent. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On March 30 2013 05:01 maru~ wrote: Sure, it's very strong actually. PMS first with some pulled heals combined with his very high base armor of 6 and the dmg from Backstab makes him very potent. He's also a hero that is quite level dependent. I would argue that its really bad. Really, really bad. Just gank him - and keep sentry wards over mid (in the same vain as QoP vs TA mid). | ||
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maru~
2345 Posts
On March 30 2013 05:03 Comeh wrote: I would argue that its really bad. Really, really bad. Just gank him - and keep sentry wards over mid (in the same vain as QoP vs TA mid). "Just gank him and you'll be fine" - best counter to all heroes. By the time he is 6, if you put Sentries on his lane he can just go and kill people on other lanes. | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34507 Posts
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On March 30 2013 05:10 maru~ wrote: "Just gank him and you'll be fine" - best counter to all heroes. By the time he is 6, if you put Sentries on his lane he can just go and kill people on other lanes. He's one of the worst laners in the game, he has no way of pushing the lane / counter pushing, he is forced to be lucky for runes in exchange for a lot of tower damage, he is easy to gank until 6, and then after that he's still not hard to gank. Why is he good mid again? | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
then you have a Riki on your team. | ||
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Skullflower
United States3779 Posts
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
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maru~
2345 Posts
This is bullshit. As for the others points, they are true for PL as well who was laned by Rattlesnakes solo mid today. He's even easier to gank as long as you buy Sentries and is far more farmdependent than Riki, who can deal insane amounts of damage with almost no items at all. You seem to not realise that if you try to shut down the mid it means you will have a hard time on another lane (since the supports are missing), or that you could send your own supports to help the mid if you expect him to get ganked. And apparently only the enemy can gank your mid but you can't gank the enemy mid. | ||
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RoyGBiv_13
United States1275 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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maru~
2345 Posts
On March 30 2013 05:28 Kipsate wrote: Phantom Lancer can fight back with lance, Riki can not, if you engage with blink strike then he will outtrade you when you run back. You are underestimating Riki's early damage potential. | ||
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