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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34507 Posts
On March 30 2013 05:30 maru~ wrote: You are underestimating Riki's early damage potential. It only works against idiots when they run away from you and you get a few extra backstab hits in. Against someone who knows what they're doing, they'll simply nuke you, trade hits with you and win. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On March 30 2013 05:30 maru~ wrote: You are underestimating Riki's early damage potential. i guess if you are maxing backstab then you'd be able to out damage him, but you'd be missing out on any sort of safety, if you are maxing cloud you could trade with him but deal so little damage you'd be out of mana before you get past his salve, if you max blink strike you can at least survive. Riki just doesn't do well in lane. | ||
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RoyGBiv_13
United States1275 Posts
On March 30 2013 05:33 PrinceXizor wrote: i guess if you are maxing backstab then you'd be able to out damage him, but you'd be missing out on any sort of safety, if you are maxing cloud you could trade with him but deal so little damage you'd be out of mana before you get past his salve, if you max blink strike you can at least survive. Riki just doesn't do well in lane. not without a dagon, at least  | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On March 30 2013 05:01 maru~ wrote: Sure, it's very strong actually. PMS first with some pulled heals combined with his very high base armor of 6 and the dmg from Backstab makes him very potent. He's also a hero that is quite level dependent. That doesn't help you at all versus spells though. Anyone with a bottle is going to be terror for you. Sure PL laned middle, but he also got shat on in that game. On March 30 2013 05:30 maru~ wrote: You are underestimating Riki's early damage potential. How does anyone with a spell not do more damage than him? Are you gonna blink cloud them everytime you want to trade hits? | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
On March 30 2013 04:49 Torte de Lini wrote: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=134962374 if you can farm up the radiance in a timely manner, do you go for it? | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On March 30 2013 05:36 Whole wrote: if you can farm up the radiance in a timely manner, do you go for it? If you can get it under 18 minutes, sure. | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
He doesn't need it to farm at all. The +60 damage can be gotten more effectively from other sources. And staying alive longer will mostly result in more quill sprays going off and probably more damage dealt totally anyway. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On March 30 2013 05:39 Unleashing wrote: I don't see why some people get their panties wet for radiance on BB. He doesn't need it to farm at all. The +60 damage can be gotten more effectively from other sources. And staying alive longer will mostly result in more quill sprays going off and probably more damage dealt totally anyway. If you don't need the additional items to stay in a fight (or use radiance to get them right after since your farming speed will be magnificent) then you're going to do a lot of extra burn damage. The draw of radiance is that it burns everyone in addition to your quill spam since you'll be wanting a long fight anyway. | ||
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Daozzt
United States1263 Posts
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On March 30 2013 05:35 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: That doesn't help you at all versus spells though. Anyone with a bottle is going to be terror for you. Sure PL laned middle, but he also got shat on in that game. How does anyone with a spell not do more damage than him? Are you gonna blink cloud them everytime you want to trade hits? Not to mention, this argument is being made against a mid PL, who I don't consider a good mid-laner. Imagine him vs. a QoP, beastmaster....anything really. | ||
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Darkren
Canada1841 Posts
On March 30 2013 05:30 maru~ wrote: You are underestimating Riki's early damage potential. I actually think Riki mid would work well, but it would have to be versus a melee hero like you said, Mag or Bm. The other thing u haven't talked about is that you would need a lineup with another hero that could come over and control mid when riki is 6. That means hell be prob playing a lv 4 vs a lv 6 with bottle mid, u can surely see how this would be very hard. It could work but u would need a very strong draft, or a push lineup that seeks to push the tower when riki hits 6. | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34507 Posts
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Jetaap
France4814 Posts
So what do you think about going treads/shadowblade/armlet/bkb (maybe bkb before) to play a semi-carry slardar? | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On March 30 2013 06:10 Jetaap wrote: I was thinking about ways to build slardar, wouldn't shadowblade be a decent item on him? It gives attack speed and allows to initiate with his stun, maybe it could be a viable replacement for blink (I realize blink is harder to counter that a shadowblade, but it also doesn't give damage). Also if it's possible to stack the bonus speed from sprint and windwalk would give really nice speed to slardar for escape and chasing. So what do you think about going treads/shadowblade/armlet/bkb (maybe bkb before) to play a semi-carry slardar? Shadowblade is pretty good on him, yes. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
circa dead9 2012 | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
I think the item would still be decent if it had all the stats it has now, and the active only gave you the backstab damage and bonus MS without the invisibility. I hate the item. | ||
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dismiss
United Kingdom3341 Posts
On March 30 2013 05:41 Daozzt wrote: Riki mid is awful. He has no laning presence and gets out traded by everyone. Here is a better question: what hero doesn't shit on riki mid? Witch doctor xaxaxa | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
No, he probably wins too. | ||
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nojok
France15846 Posts
On March 30 2013 06:19 cecek wrote: When is doubt, go shadowblade... You really can't go wrong with it in pubs, the item is super OP there. I think the item would still be decent if it had all the stats it has now, and the active only gave you the backstab damage and bonus MS without the invisibility. I hate the item. I don't find shadowblade op in pubs, you know ages ago when the guy goes for it & you have dust ready. Without the invis it would sux really hard as it would not force the opponent to spend some gold on countering invis. | ||
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