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On March 24 2013 22:37 Qbek wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2013 22:35 The Irate Turk wrote:On March 24 2013 22:08 Firebolt145 wrote:On March 24 2013 21:59 The Irate Turk wrote: How the hell am I supposed to play my beloved PL in this post tranquil boots nerf world?
Some poor options:
1) ROH/ Vanguard + Treads doesn't quite cut it 2) Early vlads + Treads 3) Some kind of ferrying of healing salves?
Comedy Option 4) Stick to Tranquil Boots + Soul Ring
Either way, I feel gimped. None of these seems to be working for me.
Like many people I'd go for a Tranquil Boots + Soul Ring into either Radiance or Diffusal. Whatever I have tried now just leaves me unable to stay in lane and farm at any kind of rate.
How are we to play lancer now??????
A good PL can avoid incoming ganks and maintain farm with good and smart use of illusions. You can still keep your Tranquils. Don't get Soul Ring, it is a waste of 800 gold. Best build would still be Tranqs -> Drums -> Diffusal -> Heart -> Travels -> Manta/Butterfly/Daedalus. But this would involve deviating from Q, Stats, Q Stats build  "I can no longer be the greediest mofo around, what do?" ahaha You really dont need to get stats on the hero with the best agi gain in the game, and a point in invis will in most cases be more valuable then the small str gain in terms of survivability.
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anyone ganking you should be coming with dust, but I suppose the movespeed could make the difference????
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How do u guys think about spectre iam playing her quite a lot even in public and its not going too bad. But i rarely see anyone else playing her. WHat do u guys think?
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I was thinking about the movespeed. I am pretty sure that the 15% mspeed or w/e is better then a few points in str in most situations. Also, forcing them to buy detection is a small bonus on its own.
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I like her
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On March 24 2013 22:38 PassiveAce wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2013 22:37 Qbek wrote:On March 24 2013 22:35 The Irate Turk wrote:On March 24 2013 22:08 Firebolt145 wrote:On March 24 2013 21:59 The Irate Turk wrote: How the hell am I supposed to play my beloved PL in this post tranquil boots nerf world?
Some poor options:
1) ROH/ Vanguard + Treads doesn't quite cut it 2) Early vlads + Treads 3) Some kind of ferrying of healing salves?
Comedy Option 4) Stick to Tranquil Boots + Soul Ring
Either way, I feel gimped. None of these seems to be working for me.
Like many people I'd go for a Tranquil Boots + Soul Ring into either Radiance or Diffusal. Whatever I have tried now just leaves me unable to stay in lane and farm at any kind of rate.
How are we to play lancer now??????
A good PL can avoid incoming ganks and maintain farm with good and smart use of illusions. You can still keep your Tranquils. Don't get Soul Ring, it is a waste of 800 gold. Best build would still be Tranqs -> Drums -> Diffusal -> Heart -> Travels -> Manta/Butterfly/Daedalus. But this would involve deviating from Q, Stats, Q Stats build  "I can no longer be the greediest mofo around, what do?" ahaha You really dont need to get stats on the hero with the best agi gain in the game, and a point in invis will in most cases be more valuable then the small str gain in terms of survivability. OK: so it's Q, W, Q, W/ Stats etc.
Stick with the tranquil boots, skip soul ring go for drums for teh drumability??
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tranq aquila and see how it goes, either follow up with drums or diffu
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personally I dont get stats on pl. I find that if juxtaposition or my ult is delayed then I have trouble splitpushing/jungling by the time my diffusal is up.
But im a shitty player so you should wait for advice from someone who actually knows what they're doing.
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@Incze whats your usual build with her?
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On March 24 2013 22:49 The Irate Turk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2013 22:38 PassiveAce wrote:On March 24 2013 22:37 Qbek wrote:On March 24 2013 22:35 The Irate Turk wrote:On March 24 2013 22:08 Firebolt145 wrote:On March 24 2013 21:59 The Irate Turk wrote: How the hell am I supposed to play my beloved PL in this post tranquil boots nerf world?
Some poor options:
1) ROH/ Vanguard + Treads doesn't quite cut it 2) Early vlads + Treads 3) Some kind of ferrying of healing salves?
Comedy Option 4) Stick to Tranquil Boots + Soul Ring
Either way, I feel gimped. None of these seems to be working for me.
Like many people I'd go for a Tranquil Boots + Soul Ring into either Radiance or Diffusal. Whatever I have tried now just leaves me unable to stay in lane and farm at any kind of rate.
How are we to play lancer now??????
A good PL can avoid incoming ganks and maintain farm with good and smart use of illusions. You can still keep your Tranquils. Don't get Soul Ring, it is a waste of 800 gold. Best build would still be Tranqs -> Drums -> Diffusal -> Heart -> Travels -> Manta/Butterfly/Daedalus. But this would involve deviating from Q, Stats, Q Stats build  "I can no longer be the greediest mofo around, what do?" ahaha You really dont need to get stats on the hero with the best agi gain in the game, and a point in invis will in most cases be more valuable then the small str gain in terms of survivability. OK: so it's Q, W, Q, W/ Stats etc. Stick with the tranquil boots, skip soul ring go for drums for teh drumability?? You should only put 1 point into Doppelwalk at the beginning of the game. A typical build for PL would be: Q W Q E Q R Q E E E stats + ult, more points in Doppelwalk only around level 17+. Don't use your illusions to push at the beginning; use them to scout incoming ganks as well as harass the enemy (hotkey illusions, right click on enemy), and send them to jungle.
For mana, you can get a magic stick and a Sobi Mask. That should be adequate for your early mana needs. You could get an Aquila if no one else on the team is getting it or a Ring of Basi but I prefer skipping it because you do become quite tight on item slots.
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On March 24 2013 23:19 Firebolt145 wrote:
You should only put 1 point into Doppelwalk at the beginning of the game. A typical build for PL would be: Q W Q E Q R Q E E E stats + ult, more points in Doppelwalk only around level 17+. Don't use your illusions to push at the beginning; use them to scout incoming ganks as well as harass the enemy (hotkey illusions, right click on enemy), and send them to jungle.
For mana, you can get a magic stick and a Sobi Mask. That should be adequate for your early mana needs. You could get an Aquila if no one else on the team is getting it or a Ring of Basi but I prefer skipping it because you do become quite tight on item slots.
This. One point in doppelwalk at 2 is all you need for a while.
I also tend to shift the skillbuild based on what kind of harass I'm facing. Better players might disagree, but if ganks aren't coming my way (and you'd be surprised how often this is the case) then I'll bump stats instead of illusions. A few extra points in stats goes a long way towards solving some of early game mana problems, and once you get diffusal then you can start bumping illusions.
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stats on pl is win. man fight them gankers and crush them.
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On March 24 2013 22:42 Xitacc wrote: How do u guys think about spectre iam playing her quite a lot even in public and its not going too bad. But i rarely see anyone else playing her. WHat do u guys think?
shes super awesome :3
Aui was talking about her with regards to the new tranquil nerf build is max dagger and desolate with one in dispersion @ lvl 3. You go tranqs disassemble into treads after you get yasha. Most importantly orb of venom, seriously, dagger plus yasha move speed and orb slow means you have disgusting chase power. If your team has good lockdown go straight for manta, if you catch a hero alone, manta + dagger + a stun = dead. If not much lock down go yasha > diffu > manta. I've been trying out going into Skadi after Manta if I'm up against some melee carry and don't think I'll need a heart, not sure about it yet though. You can always go back for a Radiance after Yasha or even Manta if you feel the game is going to go into a passive farm war, Spectre farms pretty slowly without it even when you have big agi items. Late game bfly is standard I think.
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foresight: after troll has been added to captains mode it will take less than a month till we see him as a regular pick, with drums picked up very often.
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On March 25 2013 01:20 whoso wrote: foresight: after troll has been added to captains mode it will take less than a month till we see him as a regular pick, with drums picked up very often. 1 month later troll is the most picked carry
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I'm still fooling around with Tranqs, Drums, OoV, Armlet Spec. So far not THAT succesful, but those games had nothing to do with armlet, but rather getting rolled over anyway.
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I find the biggest problem with spec isn't item progression but instead laning. So hard to pick a spec when enemy can contest your lane and with naix being so popular that is more likely than not.
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On March 25 2013 01:33 cilinder007 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2013 01:20 whoso wrote: foresight: after troll has been added to captains mode it will take less than a month till we see him as a regular pick, with drums picked up very often. 1 month later troll is the most picked carry
considering how he wipes naix that might very well happen
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I think I'm going to quit playing Meepo now. Gave it about 15 games or so a try. I can farm acceptably, but too many heroes just wreck through me.
I wish his slow slowed attack speed and poof was not BKB-blockable ):
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On March 25 2013 01:54 Torte de Lini wrote: I think I'm going to quit playing Meepo now. Gave it about 15 games or so a try. I can farm acceptably, but too many heroes just wreck through me.
I wish his slow slowed attack speed and poof was not BKB-blockable ): Don't quit playing him. Just try to pick him when it's actually a good time to do so. (Fuck nyx, srsly)
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