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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-24 07:53:50
March 24 2013 07:53 GMT
#48901
I figured that by now bwahaha.

I'm playing him now, just dying horrendously now.
3/3/3

20 mins
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Cragus
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada144 Posts
March 24 2013 07:58 GMT
#48902
Meepo is considered a fairly weak pick largely because there's a lot of heroes that just wreck him. In other words, meepo ends up countered in most drafts completely by accident. Obviously ES and anything burst damage will outright kill him, but anyone with cleave will render him pretty hard to be effective with since all of your meepos end up at low life instead of just one that you can micro back.

Jungle should always have two meepos if possible, especially if you have the awareness to stack two camps at once. Two meepos can jungle at near AM level speeds, while 1 is a lot worse. You can generally just shift queue up a decent amount of the jungling and focus on your other meepos in lane. Two meepos in a lane doesn't get you any more gold than one, and putting two in two different lanes is going to be very difficult to last hit with.

Early vlads isn't useful as all of your meepos do really poor damage so you're stealing very little life. Just a naked basi is fine. I usually go Tranq->travels->mek/basi->aghanims->heart, but I play more of a split pushing meepo so travels are more critical for my meepo play than a more ganking-oriented style.
aka Nakji/Сталкер/Reed
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 24 2013 08:12 GMT
#48903
So I guess Meepo just isn't a viable pick considering how easily countered he is (I just lost to a pduge that would hook and kill me before Poof would finish).

7/9 this game, we lost, but I did ok.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-24 08:14:35
March 24 2013 08:13 GMT
#48904
if you want to kill shit with meepo blink is a must, but then you need to be able to poof all your meepos right before you blink, but that shouldnt be too hard for any starcraft players

just watch notail play him, you'll learn alot about the hero
betamale
Profile Joined September 2010
633 Posts
March 24 2013 08:28 GMT
#48905
im starting to farm meepo games now im 1-3 so far.

i do pretty good up until i get 4-5th meepo i just fall apart in late game team fights or ganks
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 24 2013 08:37 GMT
#48906
On March 24 2013 17:28 betamale wrote:
im starting to farm meepo games now im 1-3 so far.

i do pretty good up until i get 4-5th meepo i just fall apart in late game team fights or ganks



What happens to me is that I'm cycling through Meepos and I always forget one that didn't the command off ): So it gets left behind and dies.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-24 09:59:07
March 24 2013 09:56 GMT
#48907
He is viable in pubs. You just have to be good. You have to play a lot safer and pick your moments really well though. Blink dagger is super good if you're good with it. It's not just a matter of having good micro or whatever. You need good game sense and positioning.
dfs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Russian Federation4050 Posts
March 24 2013 10:07 GMT
#48908
"Viable in pubs". Thats a new one.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/Q1jSb9X.jpg (c) Shiro; http://i.imgur.com/lSDLLKb.png (c) drav
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
March 24 2013 10:09 GMT
#48909
Some heroes are(were) just awful anywhere no matter how well you play them.
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
March 24 2013 12:48 GMT
#48910
On March 24 2013 17:37 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2013 17:28 betamale wrote:
im starting to farm meepo games now im 1-3 so far.

i do pretty good up until i get 4-5th meepo i just fall apart in late game team fights or ganks



What happens to me is that I'm cycling through Meepos and I always forget one that didn't the command off ): So it gets left behind and dies.


I hate that so much. Always wonder how I miss one, such frustration. Thinking about it now, when notail was streaming meepo, I was so pissed off. Mostly because it was just so annoyingly damn good at using meepo compared to me. He made cycling through and jumping on people too easy. Makes you get confident and when you try, you fail miserably.

For a while, I was using Sb in low pubs (while practicing). If you get a good start, it becomes so hilarious. Guy thinks he is fine and bam, all your meepos pop in.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
The Irate Turk
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
285 Posts
March 24 2013 12:59 GMT
#48911
How the hell am I supposed to play my beloved PL in this post tranquil boots nerf world?

Some poor options:

1) ROH/ Vanguard + Treads doesn't quite cut it
2) Early vlads + Treads
3) Some kind of ferrying of healing salves?

Comedy Option 4) Stick to Tranquil Boots + Soul Ring

Either way, I feel gimped. None of these seems to be working for me.

Like many people I'd go for a Tranquil Boots + Soul Ring into either Radiance or Diffusal. Whatever I have tried now just leaves me unable to stay in lane and farm at any kind of rate.

How are we to play lancer now??????
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
March 24 2013 13:01 GMT
#48912
Lancer is still fine with tranqs, just have to be more careful with when you heal and be quick on the doppelwalk if it gets hairy
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
March 24 2013 13:08 GMT
#48913
On March 24 2013 21:59 The Irate Turk wrote:
How the hell am I supposed to play my beloved PL in this post tranquil boots nerf world?

Some poor options:

1) ROH/ Vanguard + Treads doesn't quite cut it
2) Early vlads + Treads
3) Some kind of ferrying of healing salves?

Comedy Option 4) Stick to Tranquil Boots + Soul Ring

Either way, I feel gimped. None of these seems to be working for me.

Like many people I'd go for a Tranquil Boots + Soul Ring into either Radiance or Diffusal. Whatever I have tried now just leaves me unable to stay in lane and farm at any kind of rate.

How are we to play lancer now??????

A good PL can avoid incoming ganks and maintain farm with good and smart use of illusions. You can still keep your Tranquils. Don't get Soul Ring, it is a waste of 800 gold.

Best build would still be Tranqs -> Drums -> Diffusal -> Heart -> Travels -> Manta/Butterfly/Daedalus.
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cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
March 24 2013 13:11 GMT
#48914
dont need drums if you dont expect heavy pressure, getting heart faster is better if you dont expect to fight very much
dfs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Russian Federation4050 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-24 13:30:12
March 24 2013 13:27 GMT
#48915
GD gets quiet? Discuss PL!
Someone should add this on top of the thread.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/Q1jSb9X.jpg (c) Shiro; http://i.imgur.com/lSDLLKb.png (c) drav
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
March 24 2013 13:30 GMT
#48916
--- Nuked ---
duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
March 24 2013 13:35 GMT
#48917
"ACE now decided to add LoL teams to the organization and Gamefy will host a DotA tournament with LoL in it..."
"I really like Marauders and Marines." - Flash
The Irate Turk
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
285 Posts
March 24 2013 13:35 GMT
#48918
On March 24 2013 22:08 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2013 21:59 The Irate Turk wrote:
How the hell am I supposed to play my beloved PL in this post tranquil boots nerf world?

Some poor options:

1) ROH/ Vanguard + Treads doesn't quite cut it
2) Early vlads + Treads
3) Some kind of ferrying of healing salves?

Comedy Option 4) Stick to Tranquil Boots + Soul Ring

Either way, I feel gimped. None of these seems to be working for me.

Like many people I'd go for a Tranquil Boots + Soul Ring into either Radiance or Diffusal. Whatever I have tried now just leaves me unable to stay in lane and farm at any kind of rate.

How are we to play lancer now??????

A good PL can avoid incoming ganks and maintain farm with good and smart use of illusions. You can still keep your Tranquils. Don't get Soul Ring, it is a waste of 800 gold.

Best build would still be Tranqs -> Drums -> Diffusal -> Heart -> Travels -> Manta/Butterfly/Daedalus.

But this would involve deviating from Q, Stats, Q Stats build
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
March 24 2013 13:37 GMT
#48919
On March 24 2013 22:35 The Irate Turk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2013 22:08 Firebolt145 wrote:
On March 24 2013 21:59 The Irate Turk wrote:
How the hell am I supposed to play my beloved PL in this post tranquil boots nerf world?

Some poor options:

1) ROH/ Vanguard + Treads doesn't quite cut it
2) Early vlads + Treads
3) Some kind of ferrying of healing salves?

Comedy Option 4) Stick to Tranquil Boots + Soul Ring

Either way, I feel gimped. None of these seems to be working for me.

Like many people I'd go for a Tranquil Boots + Soul Ring into either Radiance or Diffusal. Whatever I have tried now just leaves me unable to stay in lane and farm at any kind of rate.

How are we to play lancer now??????

A good PL can avoid incoming ganks and maintain farm with good and smart use of illusions. You can still keep your Tranquils. Don't get Soul Ring, it is a waste of 800 gold.

Best build would still be Tranqs -> Drums -> Diffusal -> Heart -> Travels -> Manta/Butterfly/Daedalus.

But this would involve deviating from Q, Stats, Q Stats build

"I can no longer be the greediest mofo around, what do?"
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
The Irate Turk
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
285 Posts
March 24 2013 13:38 GMT
#48920
Well, illusions push the wave? unless he was talking about many points in doppelwalk? Either way you don't have much mana?
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