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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 07 2013 02:00 GMT
#46221
On March 07 2013 10:55 Nilrem wrote:
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On March 07 2013 10:51 rabidch wrote:
bristleback is on the top of the list, then TC and pheonix and then skywrath mage

rest are meh atm (not including besides the 2 newest heroes zet and wyvern)


The 'list' from international was not really spot on. Also, if you look at the cyborgmatt unreleased hero list, it gives a pretty good idea of whats coming up.


Skywrath looks to be closest to being finished, followed by bristlebog and than abaddon.

list of having an impact on the competitive game right now.
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 07 2013 02:01 GMT
#46222


Looks like Machinima is invading dota scene after their successful contents in LoL and CoD(?). If the rumor of them buying IPL is true, NA scene got hope for near future.
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
March 07 2013 02:01 GMT
#46223
On March 07 2013 11:00 SpiZe wrote:
I can't wait for Abbadon, he's like my alltime favorite hero. I used to have so much fun playing this hero. Apophic Shield is such a fun spell to use, and his ultimate is just so funny in pubs ^^


are you a man who randoms and then makes your friend give you abbadon then starts oov boot
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
March 07 2013 02:01 GMT
#46224
pitlord was really good for one version

Because the Chinese ran this silly Pitlord + Undying push combo where having infinite corpses meant infinite corpse explosions, it was basically the Naga tide of that era
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
March 07 2013 02:05 GMT
#46225
On March 07 2013 11:01 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 11:00 SpiZe wrote:
I can't wait for Abbadon, he's like my alltime favorite hero. I used to have so much fun playing this hero. Apophic Shield is such a fun spell to use, and his ultimate is just so funny in pubs ^^


are you a man who randoms and then makes your friend give you abbadon then starts oov boot


Sounds fun, but sadly OoV wasn't in the game when I played wc3 dota
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
March 07 2013 02:16 GMT
#46226
why just addadon, i do that 1/2 the time i random a melee hero with a reasonable disable anyways
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
March 07 2013 03:33 GMT
#46227
Whats your guys favorite way to build PL nowadays? Lately I've been playing him and going tranqs ->soul ring -> drums -> difusal -> heart, then normally bfly and manta. Is rushing radiance still in or not really with the more agressive style that everyone seems to play now? And are soul ring and drums needed or is it smart to just rush difusal after tranqs possibly?
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 07 2013 03:37 GMT
#46228
tranqs>yasha>diffu>manta

yasha increases farm speed in jungle/lane, and once you have manta and diffu up, you can contribute to fights

Soul ring is a total waste on a carry, and while drums is ok, yasha > manta is better and more lategame oriented

Then heart i guess.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
March 07 2013 03:40 GMT
#46229
My issue would be how would you deal with mana problems? with tranqs soul ring gives a ton of free mana, plus bonus mana regen. I guess I can see skipping drums, although they seem so good with +9 stats giving images more hp, and the attack speed aura.
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aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-07 03:55:58
March 07 2013 03:53 GMT
#46230
On March 07 2013 12:33 hunts wrote:
Whats your guys favorite way to build PL nowadays? Lately I've been playing him and going tranqs ->soul ring -> drums -> difusal -> heart, then normally bfly and manta. Is rushing radiance still in or not really with the more agressive style that everyone seems to play now? And are soul ring and drums needed or is it smart to just rush difusal after tranqs possibly?


builds really depends on the games you're in. easy games i go tranq defusal heart (should have all those sub 20min) hardgames perhaps a drum before defusal

radiance isnt very popular now days. soul ring is meh some ppl really like it, i personally dont like that item one bit. some people prefer to opt for a yasha to farm but meh not the greatest idea. i personally would love to face a pl who goes yasha before defusal when he has freefarm.

On March 07 2013 12:40 hunts wrote:
My issue would be how would you deal with mana problems? with tranqs soul ring gives a ton of free mana, plus bonus mana regen. I guess I can see skipping drums, although they seem so good with +9 stats giving images more hp, and the attack speed aura.


what kind of mana problems are you having? are you taking points in stats?
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 07 2013 03:54 GMT
#46231
On March 07 2013 12:40 hunts wrote:
My issue would be how would you deal with mana problems? with tranqs soul ring gives a ton of free mana, plus bonus mana regen. I guess I can see skipping drums, although they seem so good with +9 stats giving images more hp, and the attack speed aura.

You shouldn't have any mana problems, the first 20 minutes of the game are completely spent farming. You don't really need to be throwing spirit lance that much.

If you are having any mana issues, soul ring is STILL a waste, get an Aquila instead.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 07 2013 03:55 GMT
#46232
On March 07 2013 12:53 aintz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 12:33 hunts wrote:
Whats your guys favorite way to build PL nowadays? Lately I've been playing him and going tranqs ->soul ring -> drums -> difusal -> heart, then normally bfly and manta. Is rushing radiance still in or not really with the more agressive style that everyone seems to play now? And are soul ring and drums needed or is it smart to just rush difusal after tranqs possibly?


builds really depends on the games you're in. easy games i go tranq defusal heart (should have all those sub 20min) hardgames perhaps a drum before defusal

radiance isnt very popular now days. soul ring is meh some ppl really like it, i personally dont like that item one bit. some people prefer to opt for a yasha to farm but meh not the greatest idea. i personally would love to face a pl who goes yasha before defusal when he has freefarm.

Its what almost every PL does in competitive games.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 07 2013 03:57 GMT
#46233
Anyone have a complete item build for Enchantress? I fucked up my guide and its incredibly incomplete D:
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 07 2013 03:57 GMT
#46234
On March 07 2013 12:57 Torte de Lini wrote:
Anyone have a complete item build for Enchantress? I fucked up my guide and its incredibly incomplete D:

A lot build Urn into Aghs, then like, sheepstick
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
March 07 2013 03:59 GMT
#46235
On March 07 2013 12:55 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 12:53 aintz wrote:
On March 07 2013 12:33 hunts wrote:
Whats your guys favorite way to build PL nowadays? Lately I've been playing him and going tranqs ->soul ring -> drums -> difusal -> heart, then normally bfly and manta. Is rushing radiance still in or not really with the more agressive style that everyone seems to play now? And are soul ring and drums needed or is it smart to just rush difusal after tranqs possibly?


builds really depends on the games you're in. easy games i go tranq defusal heart (should have all those sub 20min) hardgames perhaps a drum before defusal

radiance isnt very popular now days. soul ring is meh some ppl really like it, i personally dont like that item one bit. some people prefer to opt for a yasha to farm but meh not the greatest idea. i personally would love to face a pl who goes yasha before defusal when he has freefarm.

Its what almost every PL does in competitive games.


are we playing in competitive games? pl that goes yasha before defusal wants to farm more and invest into a longer game. pubs can be ended by a pl with defusal + heart so why spend more time farming. i dont know about you but even when im a hard carry in pubs i dont plan to farm more than 15-20mins.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 07 2013 04:03 GMT
#46236
On March 07 2013 12:57 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 12:57 Torte de Lini wrote:
Anyone have a complete item build for Enchantress? I fucked up my guide and its incredibly incomplete D:

A lot build Urn into Aghs, then like, sheepstick


I mean like early game and starting items as well ^^
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 07 2013 04:04 GMT
#46237
On March 07 2013 12:59 aintz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 12:55 Shaella wrote:
On March 07 2013 12:53 aintz wrote:
On March 07 2013 12:33 hunts wrote:
Whats your guys favorite way to build PL nowadays? Lately I've been playing him and going tranqs ->soul ring -> drums -> difusal -> heart, then normally bfly and manta. Is rushing radiance still in or not really with the more agressive style that everyone seems to play now? And are soul ring and drums needed or is it smart to just rush difusal after tranqs possibly?


builds really depends on the games you're in. easy games i go tranq defusal heart (should have all those sub 20min) hardgames perhaps a drum before defusal

radiance isnt very popular now days. soul ring is meh some ppl really like it, i personally dont like that item one bit. some people prefer to opt for a yasha to farm but meh not the greatest idea. i personally would love to face a pl who goes yasha before defusal when he has freefarm.

Its what almost every PL does in competitive games.


are we playing in competitive games? pl that goes yasha before defusal wants to farm more and invest into a longer game. pubs can be ended by a pl with defusal + heart so why spend more time farming. i dont know about you but even when im a hard carry in pubs i dont plan to farm more than 15-20mins.

? I'm doing the most effective thing to win, if by 25 minutes i've managed to farm up a Diffu/manta/ most of a heart I'm going to win.

Yasha increases the amount of farm you get in that first 20 minutes dramatically, and Manta is a fantastic item on PL.

don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 07 2013 04:07 GMT
#46238
On March 07 2013 13:03 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 12:57 Shaella wrote:
On March 07 2013 12:57 Torte de Lini wrote:
Anyone have a complete item build for Enchantress? I fucked up my guide and its incredibly incomplete D:

A lot build Urn into Aghs, then like, sheepstick


I mean like early game and starting items as well ^^

couple bracers and branches, usually a smoke, maybe some consumeables?
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
March 07 2013 04:15 GMT
#46239
On March 07 2013 13:04 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 12:59 aintz wrote:
On March 07 2013 12:55 Shaella wrote:
On March 07 2013 12:53 aintz wrote:
On March 07 2013 12:33 hunts wrote:
Whats your guys favorite way to build PL nowadays? Lately I've been playing him and going tranqs ->soul ring -> drums -> difusal -> heart, then normally bfly and manta. Is rushing radiance still in or not really with the more agressive style that everyone seems to play now? And are soul ring and drums needed or is it smart to just rush difusal after tranqs possibly?


builds really depends on the games you're in. easy games i go tranq defusal heart (should have all those sub 20min) hardgames perhaps a drum before defusal

radiance isnt very popular now days. soul ring is meh some ppl really like it, i personally dont like that item one bit. some people prefer to opt for a yasha to farm but meh not the greatest idea. i personally would love to face a pl who goes yasha before defusal when he has freefarm.

Its what almost every PL does in competitive games.


are we playing in competitive games? pl that goes yasha before defusal wants to farm more and invest into a longer game. pubs can be ended by a pl with defusal + heart so why spend more time farming. i dont know about you but even when im a hard carry in pubs i dont plan to farm more than 15-20mins.

? I'm doing the most effective thing to win, if by 25 minutes i've managed to farm up a Diffu/manta/ most of a heart I'm going to win.

Yasha increases the amount of farm you get in that first 20 minutes dramatically, and Manta is a fantastic item on PL.



manta is a fine item on pl, not before defusal or heart. maybe yasha after defusal and before heart. in pubs a fast defusal is game breaking, where as a fast yasha just means more ricing.


hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
March 07 2013 04:15 GMT
#46240
I see, so then lance spam isnt really needed for harassing people out of your lane so you can farm, and for farming jungle faster? Also do you put points in stats before more points in illusions?
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