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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
March 07 2013 00:40 GMT
#46201
Dang it. Erasme beat me again 1v1 mid sf. At one point we were both one auto attack from killing each other, and somehow we both lived
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
March 07 2013 00:44 GMT
#46202
On March 07 2013 09:40 TheEmulator wrote:
Dang it. Erasme beat me again 1v1 mid sf. At one point we were both one auto attack from killing each other, and somehow we both lived

One up-hill miss, one used a clutch salve?
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
March 07 2013 00:58 GMT
#46203
they both declined to man up obviously, and yet neither razed... how perplexing
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 07 2013 01:26 GMT
#46204
On March 07 2013 09:58 Kupon3ss wrote:
they both declined to man up obviously, and yet neither razed... how perplexing

razing is hard

thats why you do necromastery/aura build
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Myrddraal
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia937 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-07 01:30:36
March 07 2013 01:28 GMT
#46205
Hey guys, I've only recently started playing Gyro, and so far I have gone 10-0 with him. Is he just awesome or is it more likely that the players at my level just don't know what to do against him/underestimate him?

I have played him mid every time, usually ganking sometime shortly after hitting level 6. I usually use his missile to chase my opponent out of lane followed by flak cannon to clear out the creeps as quick as possible so they can't physically see me leave the lane, but of course if they had wards on the river it wouldn't make a difference. Anyway, my first gank is nearly always successful, killing one or both of the opponents in lane and from their it just seems natural progression to take the game. I don't know maybe his style just suits me, I have always liked heroes that can gank efficiently and Gyro's skills seem to do so really well, and he can then capitalise on the advantage gained by farming and pushing towers effectively with Flak cannon while also having a formidable teamfight from pretty early on. He just seems... awesome.
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 07 2013 01:28 GMT
#46206
On March 07 2013 09:00 Mataza wrote:

Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 08:54 NB wrote:
So i recheck playdota, pitlord Firestorm is no longer channeling? and how does his aura function now(what type of damage does it actually reducing)? If the targeted unit/structure is destroyed during pitlord's ulti delay, will the ulti be canceled?(similar to BoT??)

When was dota Pit Lords fire storm ever channeling? You must be thinking of ladder wc3 pit lord.
% damage means always base damage, which includes bonus stats from items. So if a hero has 100+12 damage, and he is under atrophy aura, he will then get reduced by 42% of 100 damage, which brings him down to 100-30 damage, or 70 damage.
No idea on the ulti canceling though.

The fire storm was channeling while i was playing dotacash, a few months after TI1 and shortly after i got my beta key.

I am thinking of a write up on previewing heroes that could impact TI3 that has yet been released but then i realized i dont know shit about all the new heroes/changes. Pitlord is a nice place to start since i actually used him in scrim way back. I really hope to see him in TI3 given his current state.
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
March 07 2013 01:30 GMT
#46207
im almost positive in dota it was never channeled
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Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
March 07 2013 01:34 GMT
#46208
There was a point in time where Firestorm was channeled. It was waaaaaaay back then, during the crazy imbalances era(I think it was also with morph being able to completely copy a player down to its username).

Then it got changed.
then it got changed to channeling again, and dealing damage to towers. Pitlord was pretty broken on this incarnation.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34506 Posts
March 07 2013 01:38 GMT
#46209
On March 07 2013 10:30 FinestHour wrote:
im almost positive in dota it was never channeled

It used to be, loooong ago.
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 07 2013 01:39 GMT
#46210
On March 07 2013 10:30 FinestHour wrote:
im almost positive in dota it was never channeled

you're actually negative
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-07 01:39:47
March 07 2013 01:39 GMT
#46211
On March 07 2013 10:30 FinestHour wrote:
im almost positive in dota it was never channeled

From 6.72 changelog:

Old Firestorm:
===============
Calls down 6 waves of fire that damage enemy units in an area. Each wave deals initial damage and then burns enemies for 2 seconds.

Number of waves: 6
Damage per wave: 25/40/55/70
DPS: 5/10/15/20 for 2 seconds

Cast Range: 750
AoE: 400
Cooldown: 14
Manacost: 100/110/120/130


New Firestorm:
===============
Channeling.

Calls down 3 waves of fire that damage enemy units and structures in an area.

Number of waves: 3
Damage per wave: 55/80/105/130
DPS: 15 for 3 seconds

Deals 30% damage to buildings

Cast Range: 775
AoE: 450
Cooldown: 16
Manacost: 100/110/120/130

It got changed to not be channeled in 6.75.

On March 07 2013 10:38 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 10:30 FinestHour wrote:
im almost positive in dota it was never channeled

It used to be, loooong ago.

6.72 isn't that long ago.
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-07 01:41:48
March 07 2013 01:40 GMT
#46212
nevermind...
super gg
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 07 2013 01:41 GMT
#46213
On March 07 2013 10:39 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 10:30 FinestHour wrote:
im almost positive in dota it was never channeled

From 6.72 changelog:

Show nested quote +
Old Firestorm:
===============
Calls down 6 waves of fire that damage enemy units in an area. Each wave deals initial damage and then burns enemies for 2 seconds.

Number of waves: 6
Damage per wave: 25/40/55/70
DPS: 5/10/15/20 for 2 seconds

Cast Range: 750
AoE: 400
Cooldown: 14
Manacost: 100/110/120/130


New Firestorm:
===============
Channeling.

Calls down 3 waves of fire that damage enemy units and structures in an area.

Number of waves: 3
Damage per wave: 55/80/105/130
DPS: 15 for 3 seconds

Deals 30% damage to buildings

Cast Range: 775
AoE: 450
Cooldown: 16
Manacost: 100/110/120/130

It got changed to not be channeled in 6.75.

this

when i first played it was on doombringer that was channeling (and hit buildings).

but then put on pit lord when he came out. then was changed to non channeling. then in 6.72 non channeling. then channeling again in 6.75
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Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
March 07 2013 01:44 GMT
#46214
TheYango, quit bringing facts and evidence into the discussion. Shame on you, shame... on... you...
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
March 07 2013 01:45 GMT
#46215
Like I said in the first reply, don't worry about Pitlord. He will probably a very different hero soon. :D
super gg
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34506 Posts
March 07 2013 01:48 GMT
#46216
On March 07 2013 10:39 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 10:38 Firebolt145 wrote:
On March 07 2013 10:30 FinestHour wrote:
im almost positive in dota it was never channeled

It used to be, loooong ago.

6.72 isn't that long ago.

It is to everyone who came with Dota 2!
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Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
March 07 2013 01:48 GMT
#46217
On March 07 2013 10:45 cecek wrote:
Like I said in the first reply, don't worry about Pitlord. He will probably a very different hero soon. :D


Same with other heroes I imagine. I forgot where it was mentioned, but it was said that Phoenix was going to be reworked from the ground up. I never played Phoenix in DotA original so not sure what it will be like when ever released on DotA 2.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 07 2013 01:51 GMT
#46218
bristleback is on the top of the list, then TC and pheonix and then skywrath mage

rest are meh atm (not including besides the 2 newest heroes zet and wyvern)
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
March 07 2013 01:55 GMT
#46219
On March 07 2013 10:51 rabidch wrote:
bristleback is on the top of the list, then TC and pheonix and then skywrath mage

rest are meh atm (not including besides the 2 newest heroes zet and wyvern)


The 'list' from international was not really spot on. Also, if you look at the cyborgmatt unreleased hero list, it gives a pretty good idea of whats coming up.


Skywrath looks to be closest to being finished, followed by bristlebog and than abaddon.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
March 07 2013 02:00 GMT
#46220
I can't wait for Abbadon, he's like my alltime favorite hero. I used to have so much fun playing this hero. Apophic Shield is such a fun spell to use, and his ultimate is just so funny in pubs ^^
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