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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On February 22 2013 17:29 TheYango wrote: What's the reasoning behind no Glaives on Silencer till 4? I'd also like to know. Glaives level 1 lets you orb walk and have a higher base damage to outlast hit the opponent. Last word only really starts being useful with more levels in it same with curse so you won't be spamming last word level 1. What's the point of leveling it up then and not glaives? | ||
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StoRm_res
Switzerland891 Posts
chapeau valve | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On February 22 2013 21:05 Numy wrote: I'd also like to know. Glaives level 1 lets you orb walk and have a higher base damage to outlast hit the opponent. Last word only really starts being useful with more levels in it same with curse so you won't be spamming last word level 1. What's the point of leveling it up then and not glaives? Oh, is pretty much situational, to me usually it depends on the reaction of the oppo after I casted last word on him about 1/2 times at lvl2, if i see that I have a chance to kill at lvl3, i will level up glaive at 3 to get that kill otherwise I will get it at lvl4/5. Glaive harassment is usually a waste of mana (unless you have a null talisman with random gold) because you use last word to kill your oppo on the lane, you harass him using normal attack to keep his hp at around 400hp and right after you got lvl4, go on 1/2glaives, last word, and then semi dive tower to glaive him to death. Positioning is very important and i found that most people didnt expect the burst damage that a silencer can do at lvl4. edit: updated mirana's, the annoying thing is that you need to relogin to the hero builder to add more item slot. | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
your skill build on silencer is a bit wonky in general, global should definitely be taken at 6, and last word should probably be maxed by 7. simply spamming last word and glaives in lane wins mid against the vast majority of heroes | ||
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drew-chan
Malaysia1517 Posts
No idea why its happening, and I've verified the game stuff already Q____Q Time to redownload | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On February 22 2013 21:51 Dead9 wrote: glaives at 1 or 2 lets you trade and come out ahead against most heroes, especially if you get a good block off since then you can just stand in the creepwave and glaive them until they go away your skill build on silencer is a bit wonky in general, global should definitely be taken at 6, and last word should probably be maxed by 7. simply spamming last word and glaives in lane wins mid against the vast majority of heroes tbh i usually end up getting ulti at 6 and maxing last word at 7, it all depends on the situation, it is indeed a 'wonky' skill build. for example i dont even get curse passed lvl1 if the oppo is someone like pudge but lvl2 curse is so good against heroes like lanaya or invoker, panda, storm etc. updated with a tp scroll in the early game items xD | ||
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betamale
633 Posts
love how the lycan picker stigma is gone since the nerfs | ||
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The Irate Turk
285 Posts
On February 20 2013 08:40 The Irate Turk wrote: Can you have more than one dota_range_display on your character at a time? I use one for 1200 but I really want to have one for 500 too Anyone? | ||
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RuskiPanda
United States2906 Posts
On February 22 2013 22:48 betamale wrote: return of lycan? im on like a 7 game winning streak with lycan love how the lycan picker stigma is gone since the nerfs The nerfs didn't change anything about Lycan's effectiveness in his role as a super tower pusher. They just made it so jungling him is now a lot less safe/viable but if you have an enemy offlane that doesn't harass you it's still possible to do everything he did before (fast aegis, get free T2s when enemy team is occupied, etc.). | ||
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ReignSupreme.
Australia4123 Posts
On February 22 2013 23:17 RuskiPanda wrote: The nerfs didn't change anything about Lycan's effectiveness in his role as a super tower pusher. They just made it so jungling him is now a lot less safe/viable but if you have an enemy offlane that doesn't harass you it's still possible to do everything he did before (fast aegis, get free T2s when enemy team is occupied, etc.). Personally I have a 100% W/R with him (admittedly only over 9 games, haha, but 8 of those were pre-nerf). Sometimes I consider picking him but it's pretty rare I play anything but support so I'd rather get a more situational hero. Wouldn't mind seeing Lycan played relatively often again, he well and truly has fallen off the radar | ||
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SirMilford
Australia1269 Posts
On February 22 2013 21:27 BurningSera wrote: Oh, is pretty much situational, to me usually it depends on the reaction of the oppo after I casted last word on him about 1/2 times at lvl2, if i see that I have a chance to kill at lvl3, i will level up glaive at 3 to get that kill otherwise I will get it at lvl4/5. Glaive harassment is usually a waste of mana (unless you have a null talisman with random gold) because you use last word to kill your oppo on the lane, you harass him using normal attack to keep his hp at around 400hp and right after you got lvl4, go on 1/2glaives, last word, and then semi dive tower to glaive him to death. Positioning is very important and i found that most people didnt expect the burst damage that a silencer can do at lvl4. edit: updated mirana's, the annoying thing is that you need to relogin to the hero builder to add more item slot. Often you won't need the glaives to last hit in lane, If you are against a hero that has awful last hit potential like invoker(any build untill about level 3), nyx/NS(Basically any melee mid hero honestly) you can just skip glavies before level ~5 and just get last word/curse. Curse can really wreck some heroes mid often more so than a single level in glavies can. Always max last word though, that thing is overpowered against pretty much most of the current mid hero pool currently. Curse is extremely situational and so is glavies. I have experimented with going a fast atos for a ganking silencer with maxing glavies/last word but it often doesn't work. you can't farm an atos early enough to REALLY have a huge impact ganking because it comes to late! Often their hard carry will have enough farm to "tank" through your burst and you just die. Saying that though, i gave up on silencer solo mid a long time ago due to him having no stun/slow. A silence that activates AFTER a spell only goes so far against a smart carry player. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
il update or pm you with some opinions. You really need to fix that dazzle guide. you really want to rush 3 point in poison touch and hold off on a point in grave until you need it. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
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SirMilford
Australia1269 Posts
On February 22 2013 23:42 Erasme wrote: Getting an early point in glaive is what win you the lane against a melee Not if you can destroy them with the curse/last word combo. you can easily trade agro as a range hero and still harass a melee out of range. On February 22 2013 23:46 PassiveAce wrote: when you have a good game as sven going, and your freefarming from level 1, is it actually worth it to rush a 14-15 minute bkb? Because iv been getting the feeling that in some games a ultra-fast bkb is a little unnecessary because the magical damage dealers havnt really hit their peak yet. Is it still worth getting it asap rather then going for a more aggressive item? Wouldn't that depend if they have hard disables or not? like if they have 4 stuns i always rush a BKB but if they are running very few stuns. midas/armlet/mom can be destructive. I think it depends on hero composition. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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dfs
Russian Federation4050 Posts
On February 22 2013 23:48 Erasme wrote: get a midas, you can never go wrong with midas Except if i play with you i'm gonna flame the shit out of you if you go midas. | ||
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Mithhaike
Singapore2759 Posts
I just randomed Clockwerk n crashed DOTA2 after hitting the Play Hero button. WTF. First ever abandon | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On February 22 2013 23:49 SirMilford wrote: Not if you can destroy them with the curse/last word combo. you can easily trade agro as a range hero and still harass a melee out of range. Wouldn't that depend if they have hard disables or not? like if they have 4 stuns i always rush a BKB but if they are running very few stuns. midas/armlet/mom can be destructive. I think it depends on hero composition. curse is just a mosquito til lvl 2. With glaive skilled first you win the lane at lvl 1 | ||
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