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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
February 22 2013 15:16 GMT
#44361
Playing against an orbwalking hero at level 1 is the most obnoxious thing there is for a melee(Clinkz is just retarded sometimes).
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
February 22 2013 15:26 GMT
#44362
I fuckin hate midas stop suggesting it for my l337 es build plzkthx
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-22 16:11:26
February 22 2013 15:39 GMT
#44363
The thing is I dont want the oppo to feel threatened, I want to keep him at low-ish mana (so he feels wasted if he went back to heal and stay passively on lane) and keep him at ~400hp, lvl4/5 is almost always a kill (either you pushed the wave to him so you semi dive kill or you make the creep wave to your high ground if he crossed the river then he is 100% dead).

Leveling up early glaive is more about chasing the oppo out of lane or you are gambling on him doesnt know how to react because you could be wasting your last hit and mana on harassing him, if he got one rune or a bottlecrow you lost so much of your killing power at lvl4/5. You outlane any melee heroes with normal attack+last word+curse anyway (just play with the creep aggro aoe). As I said I would go glaive at lvl2/3 if I saw his reaction/playstyle is still very aggressive after my first last word+harassing because why not, i could just kill him right there. Maybe is just my playstyle.


Also, dendi's stream viewer is always so damn high, dendivoker best voker!
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
SirMilford
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1269 Posts
February 22 2013 15:42 GMT
#44364
On February 23 2013 00:39 BurningSera wrote:
The thing is I dont want the oppo to feel threatened, I want to keep him at low-ish mana (so he feels wasted if he went back to heal and stay passively on lane) and keep him at ~400hp, lvl4/5 is almost always a kill (either you pushed the wave to him so you semi dive kill or you make the creep wave to your high ground if he crossed the river then he is 100% dead).

Leveling up early glaive is more about chasing the oppo out of lane or you are gambling on him doesnt know how to react because you could be wasting your last hit and mana on harassing him, if he got one rune or a bottlecrow you lost so much of your killing power at lvl4/5. You outlane any melee heroes with normal attack+last word+curse anyway (just play with the creep aggro aoe). As I said I would go glaive at lvl2/3 if I saw his reaction/playstyle after my first last word+harassing is still very aggressive because why not if i could kill him right there. Maybe is just my playstyle.


Also, dendi's stream viewer is always so damn high, dendivoker best voker!

that is how i feel about silencer aswell, he doesn't need that orb. He has such a huge kill potential with last word/curse combo that even 1 level out of it can hurt.
The Irate Turk
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
285 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-22 15:47:58
February 22 2013 15:45 GMT
#44365
On February 23 2013 00:16 Kipsate wrote:
Playing against an orbwalking hero at level 1 is the most obnoxious thing there is for a melee(Clinkz is just retarded sometimes).

dota_range_finder 500 means pretty much any ranged hero can pseudo orb walk vs a melee

I mean you can't dive them the way a drow would but you can pretty much hit them every couple of seconds with impunity
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
February 22 2013 15:47 GMT
#44366
On February 22 2013 21:57 drew-chan wrote:
Dammit my dota keeps crashing or hanging when I click on the play button after selecting a hero.

No idea why its happening, and I've verified the game stuff already Q____Q

Time to redownload


A bunch of heroes are bugged to crash you instantly. Last I knew it was Treant, Huskar, Windrunner, Viper, and quite a few more. They've been slowly patching them, though, they might have finished. Makes AR and SD a pain in the butt.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-22 16:00:33
February 22 2013 15:56 GMT
#44367
Ok, I read all of your posts and updating my guides now.
There's no wands because I'm greedy a fuck. I usually get it for Skeleton king though.

I'll update them accordingly.

Some stuff I can't add in text because of how little room they give you. They only let you write like 100 words in description boxes.

"Should mention pulling/semi-jungling as Axe feels good at it. Close to the lane and can harass with battlehunger when mana pool allows it."


There's no room for that.
I also can't talk about short/long-lane without fitting all that in.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
February 22 2013 16:01 GMT
#44368
is the dc bug still not fixed?
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-22 16:02:38
February 22 2013 16:02 GMT
#44369
wands are the most amazing thing in the world. always get a stick on any hero with low mana thats spell reliant at the least, but they are awesome on everyone.

@aintz It should be fixed by now.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
DR.Ham
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands621 Posts
February 22 2013 16:08 GMT
#44370
Tree is such a good hero!

I was 4-12, the lowest level on both teams, and got commends from all players and snuck our team the win!

Our ancient was down to 139 hp with a 5 slot Void, Bounty Hunter and Tiny on the enemy team, but the tree heal got us back to 2000hp and the Tree lockdown let us delay long enough that our Natures Prophet could take down their tier 4's and win the game.

Go Tree!

PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-22 16:10:46
February 22 2013 16:10 GMT
#44371
On February 23 2013 01:08 DR.Ham wrote:
Tree is such a good hero!

I was 4-12, the lowest level on both teams, and got commends from all players and snuck our team the win!

Our ancient was down to 139 hp with a 5 slot Void, Bounty Hunter and Tiny on the enemy team, but the tree heal got us back to 2000hp and the Tree lockdown let us delay long enough that our Natures Prophet could take down their tier 4's and win the game.

Go Tree!


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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
February 22 2013 16:11 GMT
#44372
On February 23 2013 01:10 PassiveAce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2013 01:08 DR.Ham wrote:
Tree is such a good hero!

I was 4-12, the lowest level on both teams, and got commends from all players and snuck our team the win!

Our ancient was down to 139 hp with a 5 slot Void, Bounty Hunter and Tiny on the enemy team, but the tree heal got us back to 2000hp and the Tree lockdown let us delay long enough that our Natures Prophet could take down their tier 4's and win the game.

Go Tree!


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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 22 2013 16:13 GMT
#44373
On February 23 2013 00:45 The Irate Turk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2013 00:16 Kipsate wrote:
Playing against an orbwalking hero at level 1 is the most obnoxious thing there is for a melee(Clinkz is just retarded sometimes).

dota_range_finder 500 means pretty much any ranged hero can pseudo orb walk vs a melee

I mean you can't dive them the way a drow would but you can pretty much hit them every couple of seconds with impunity


Erm you'll still creep aggro though. Orbwalking early on is a pain because of creep aggro
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-22 16:20:11
February 22 2013 16:13 GMT
#44374
Wand is best item in the game, there is no reason to not get it on every hero that is not a carry ^^ .

On February 23 2013 01:13 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2013 00:45 The Irate Turk wrote:
On February 23 2013 00:16 Kipsate wrote:
Playing against an orbwalking hero at level 1 is the most obnoxious thing there is for a melee(Clinkz is just retarded sometimes).

dota_range_finder 500 means pretty much any ranged hero can pseudo orb walk vs a melee

I mean you can't dive them the way a drow would but you can pretty much hit them every couple of seconds with impunity


Erm you'll still creep aggro though. Orbwalking early on is a pain because of creep aggro


No, If you are 500 range away from the creeps then you won't take creep aggro.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
February 22 2013 16:15 GMT
#44375
Boots of speed are the best item in the game. Like the only non consumable every hero gets

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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 22 2013 16:16 GMT
#44376
On February 23 2013 01:13 BlitzerSC wrote:
Wand is best item in the game, there is no reason to not get it on every ever that is not a carry ^^ .

Show nested quote +
On February 23 2013 01:13 Numy wrote:
On February 23 2013 00:45 The Irate Turk wrote:
On February 23 2013 00:16 Kipsate wrote:
Playing against an orbwalking hero at level 1 is the most obnoxious thing there is for a melee(Clinkz is just retarded sometimes).

dota_range_finder 500 means pretty much any ranged hero can pseudo orb walk vs a melee

I mean you can't dive them the way a drow would but you can pretty much hit them every couple of seconds with impunity


Erm you'll still creep aggro though. Orbwalking early on is a pain because of creep aggro


No, If you are 500 range away from the creeps then you won't take creep aggro.


How are you harassing while that far away in mid lane?
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-22 16:23:28
February 22 2013 16:18 GMT
#44377
On February 23 2013 01:16 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2013 01:13 BlitzerSC wrote:
Wand is best item in the game, there is no reason to not get it on every ever that is not a carry ^^ .

On February 23 2013 01:13 Numy wrote:
On February 23 2013 00:45 The Irate Turk wrote:
On February 23 2013 00:16 Kipsate wrote:
Playing against an orbwalking hero at level 1 is the most obnoxious thing there is for a melee(Clinkz is just retarded sometimes).

dota_range_finder 500 means pretty much any ranged hero can pseudo orb walk vs a melee

I mean you can't dive them the way a drow would but you can pretty much hit them every couple of seconds with impunity


Erm you'll still creep aggro though. Orbwalking early on is a pain because of creep aggro


No, If you are 500 range away from the creeps then you won't take creep aggro.


How are you harassing while that far away in mid lane?


What ? They are having a general conversation about how paniful is playing against an hero with orb walking skills as melee.

Also, do you really need an orb walk skill to harass a melee hero in mid lane ? You can just right click him and walk away.
The Irate Turk
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
285 Posts
February 22 2013 16:19 GMT
#44378
You use the 500 range finder radius to be just out of creep aggro when you right click the enemy hero, you walk up to him and hit him. You have two seconds or so to hit him and begin retreating without drawing any aggro
Mazer
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1086 Posts
February 22 2013 16:24 GMT
#44379
On February 22 2013 23:14 The Irate Turk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 08:40 The Irate Turk wrote:
Can you have more than one dota_range_display on your character at a time?

I use one for 1200 but I really want to have one for 500 too

Anyone?


Don't think there is a way for 2. You could set an 'alias' bind to a key that switches between the two on the fly though..
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
February 22 2013 16:28 GMT
#44380
On February 23 2013 01:24 Mazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 23:14 The Irate Turk wrote:
On February 20 2013 08:40 The Irate Turk wrote:
Can you have more than one dota_range_display on your character at a time?

I use one for 1200 but I really want to have one for 500 too

Anyone?


Don't think there is a way for 2. You could set an 'alias' bind to a key that switches between the two on the fly though..

Or make a script that switches them automatically every 10ms, seizure central style xD
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