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On February 17 2013 07:38 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2013 07:29 gaymon wrote:
edit: all of you are totally ignoring WHAT U GET by maxing pounce first, you're just talking about your ability to jungle faster, while ignoring the fact that you have ~100-200 hps (1 or 2 uses of dp) less in every gang and ONLY ONE POUNCE instead of 2 Right, we give up around 100-200 hp and a pounce in order to level faster (which gives us more pounces and 100-200 hp), and a TON more money (which gives us more items)
Lets just agree on the following;
if there is noone on your team farming the jungle OR pulling (which is the case in 99% of the cases if they are not warded, but you cant farm them then anyways) you can skill dp to go more of a farming route ?
Seems to be a good agreement, if you are rediculously far ahead and your teams 1-2 are able to farm their lanes without any fear of getting ganged.
Seriously now, this discussion is entirely focussed about level 8-10 which is rediculous in itself because its only 3-4 minutes in which you are unable to farm the jungle, if the above conditions are met.
Edit: To give u another food of thought, in case lanes are still rigidly intact, pounce is far superior to dp, and i am not even talking about pre 6 (pre 6 your jungling capability is shit, unless you plan on buying tranquils [which is actually viable in a really hard lane because it can be disassembled later into vlads])
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On February 17 2013 07:45 gaymon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2013 07:38 PrinceXizor wrote:On February 17 2013 07:29 gaymon wrote:
edit: all of you are totally ignoring WHAT U GET by maxing pounce first, you're just talking about your ability to jungle faster, while ignoring the fact that you have ~100-200 hps (1 or 2 uses of dp) less in every gang and ONLY ONE POUNCE instead of 2 Right, we give up around 100-200 hp and a pounce in order to level faster (which gives us more pounces and 100-200 hp), and a TON more money (which gives us more items) Lets just agree on the following; if there is noone on your team farming the jungle OR pulling (which is the case in 99% of the cases if they are not warded, but you cant farm them then anyways) you can skill dp to go more of a farming route ? Seems to be a good agreement, if you are rediculously far ahead and your teams 1-2 are able to farm their lanes without any fear of getting ganged. Seriously now, this discussion is entirely focussed about level 8-10 which is rediculous in itself because its only 3-4 minutes in which you are unable to farm the jungle, if the above conditions are met.
You only gank between top mid or bottom mid depending on sides? i also farm the other sides jungle with dp.
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On February 17 2013 07:48 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2013 07:45 gaymon wrote:On February 17 2013 07:38 PrinceXizor wrote:On February 17 2013 07:29 gaymon wrote:
edit: all of you are totally ignoring WHAT U GET by maxing pounce first, you're just talking about your ability to jungle faster, while ignoring the fact that you have ~100-200 hps (1 or 2 uses of dp) less in every gang and ONLY ONE POUNCE instead of 2 Right, we give up around 100-200 hp and a pounce in order to level faster (which gives us more pounces and 100-200 hp), and a TON more money (which gives us more items) Lets just agree on the following; if there is noone on your team farming the jungle OR pulling (which is the case in 99% of the cases if they are not warded, but you cant farm them then anyways) you can skill dp to go more of a farming route ? Seems to be a good agreement, if you are rediculously far ahead and your teams 1-2 are able to farm their lanes without any fear of getting ganged. Seriously now, this discussion is entirely focussed about level 8-10 which is rediculous in itself because its only 3-4 minutes in which you are unable to farm the jungle, if the above conditions are met. You only gank between top mid or bottom mid depending on sides? i also farm the other sides jungle with dp.
You are farmin the other sides jungle on minute 7 ? I do not think that that is accurate unless its a slugfest. You are dead whenever anybody tries to gang you at that time, especially with 20 minutes pounce CD. While beeing 8-10 you will have
Wand Treads PMS Bracer MAX.
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Eh, I think it's situational. Nothing wrong with maxing pounce in some cases but if you're the hardest carry your team has then your team composition probably sucks but it's definitely fine to take all the farm you want.
Most games fall somewhere in between being the hardest (only) carry on your team and being one of 5 carries. Higher levels of pounce become effective before level 6 while higher levels of Pact need Slark's ult to let you spam the spell. If i'm in some stupid trilane then yes, I would probably max pounce. Pact is definitely better if you can hit 6 with treads fairly early.
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On February 17 2013 07:49 gaymon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2013 07:48 PrinceXizor wrote:On February 17 2013 07:45 gaymon wrote:On February 17 2013 07:38 PrinceXizor wrote:On February 17 2013 07:29 gaymon wrote:
edit: all of you are totally ignoring WHAT U GET by maxing pounce first, you're just talking about your ability to jungle faster, while ignoring the fact that you have ~100-200 hps (1 or 2 uses of dp) less in every gang and ONLY ONE POUNCE instead of 2 Right, we give up around 100-200 hp and a pounce in order to level faster (which gives us more pounces and 100-200 hp), and a TON more money (which gives us more items) Lets just agree on the following; if there is noone on your team farming the jungle OR pulling (which is the case in 99% of the cases if they are not warded, but you cant farm them then anyways) you can skill dp to go more of a farming route ? Seems to be a good agreement, if you are rediculously far ahead and your teams 1-2 are able to farm their lanes without any fear of getting ganged. Seriously now, this discussion is entirely focussed about level 8-10 which is rediculous in itself because its only 3-4 minutes in which you are unable to farm the jungle, if the above conditions are met. You only gank between top mid or bottom mid depending on sides? i also farm the other sides jungle with dp. You are farmin the other sides jungle on minute 7 ? I do not think that that is accurate unless its a slugfest.
in between ganks? yeah you take what you get. and it gives you better global presence, it's not like it takes slark longer than 6 seconds maximum to clear a camp under worst conditions.
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On February 17 2013 07:50 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2013 07:49 gaymon wrote:On February 17 2013 07:48 PrinceXizor wrote:On February 17 2013 07:45 gaymon wrote:On February 17 2013 07:38 PrinceXizor wrote:On February 17 2013 07:29 gaymon wrote:
edit: all of you are totally ignoring WHAT U GET by maxing pounce first, you're just talking about your ability to jungle faster, while ignoring the fact that you have ~100-200 hps (1 or 2 uses of dp) less in every gang and ONLY ONE POUNCE instead of 2 Right, we give up around 100-200 hp and a pounce in order to level faster (which gives us more pounces and 100-200 hp), and a TON more money (which gives us more items) Lets just agree on the following; if there is noone on your team farming the jungle OR pulling (which is the case in 99% of the cases if they are not warded, but you cant farm them then anyways) you can skill dp to go more of a farming route ? Seems to be a good agreement, if you are rediculously far ahead and your teams 1-2 are able to farm their lanes without any fear of getting ganged. Seriously now, this discussion is entirely focussed about level 8-10 which is rediculous in itself because its only 3-4 minutes in which you are unable to farm the jungle, if the above conditions are met. You only gank between top mid or bottom mid depending on sides? i also farm the other sides jungle with dp. You are farmin the other sides jungle on minute 7 ? I do not think that that is accurate unless its a slugfest. in between ganks? yeah you take what you get. and it gives you better global presence, it's not like it takes slark longer than 6 seconds maximum to clear a camp under worst conditions.
Worst case is an Ursa camp which takes 2 dps and 850 autohitdamage (approximately 12 autohits which take ~12 seconds). Golems are even worse.
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Why isnt there Dota2 fan clubs threads?
The forum is under general not under SC2
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On February 17 2013 07:52 TMG26 wrote:
Why isnt there Dota2 fan clubs threads?
The forum is under general not under SC2
No one has made any. Also people tend to just use the stream threads as fanclub threads for specific players.
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There are no fanclub threads because no one has bothered to make one afaik. Maybe someone made a sing2 fanclub thread a while ago? cant remember.
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On February 17 2013 07:51 gaymon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2013 07:50 PrinceXizor wrote:On February 17 2013 07:49 gaymon wrote:On February 17 2013 07:48 PrinceXizor wrote:On February 17 2013 07:45 gaymon wrote:On February 17 2013 07:38 PrinceXizor wrote:On February 17 2013 07:29 gaymon wrote:
edit: all of you are totally ignoring WHAT U GET by maxing pounce first, you're just talking about your ability to jungle faster, while ignoring the fact that you have ~100-200 hps (1 or 2 uses of dp) less in every gang and ONLY ONE POUNCE instead of 2 Right, we give up around 100-200 hp and a pounce in order to level faster (which gives us more pounces and 100-200 hp), and a TON more money (which gives us more items) Lets just agree on the following; if there is noone on your team farming the jungle OR pulling (which is the case in 99% of the cases if they are not warded, but you cant farm them then anyways) you can skill dp to go more of a farming route ? Seems to be a good agreement, if you are rediculously far ahead and your teams 1-2 are able to farm their lanes without any fear of getting ganged. Seriously now, this discussion is entirely focussed about level 8-10 which is rediculous in itself because its only 3-4 minutes in which you are unable to farm the jungle, if the above conditions are met. You only gank between top mid or bottom mid depending on sides? i also farm the other sides jungle with dp. You are farmin the other sides jungle on minute 7 ? I do not think that that is accurate unless its a slugfest. in between ganks? yeah you take what you get. and it gives you better global presence, it's not like it takes slark longer than 6 seconds maximum to clear a camp under worst conditions. Worst case is an Ursa camp which takes 2 dps and 850 autohitdamage (approximately 12 autohits which take ~12 seconds). Golems are even worse.
Wat? You aren't even making sense anymore *shrug* i'm done. if he doesn't want to learn he won't learn.
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On February 17 2013 07:53 PassiveAce wrote:
There are no fanclub threads because no one has bothered to make one afaik. Maybe someone made a sing2 fanclub thread a while ago? cant remember.
I think there was a Tobi fanclub.
Also, how do I send myself Dota to another account? I kind of feel like smurfing, I had a shitty run recently.
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you just make a new steam account and then friend your smurf with your main, accept the invite with your smurf, and then send the invite from your main.
new accounts cant send friend invites i think, so you have to do it with your main. You can also do it through email.
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On February 17 2013 07:55 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2013 07:51 gaymon wrote:On February 17 2013 07:50 PrinceXizor wrote:On February 17 2013 07:49 gaymon wrote:On February 17 2013 07:48 PrinceXizor wrote:On February 17 2013 07:45 gaymon wrote:On February 17 2013 07:38 PrinceXizor wrote:On February 17 2013 07:29 gaymon wrote:
edit: all of you are totally ignoring WHAT U GET by maxing pounce first, you're just talking about your ability to jungle faster, while ignoring the fact that you have ~100-200 hps (1 or 2 uses of dp) less in every gang and ONLY ONE POUNCE instead of 2 Right, we give up around 100-200 hp and a pounce in order to level faster (which gives us more pounces and 100-200 hp), and a TON more money (which gives us more items) Lets just agree on the following; if there is noone on your team farming the jungle OR pulling (which is the case in 99% of the cases if they are not warded, but you cant farm them then anyways) you can skill dp to go more of a farming route ? Seems to be a good agreement, if you are rediculously far ahead and your teams 1-2 are able to farm their lanes without any fear of getting ganged. Seriously now, this discussion is entirely focussed about level 8-10 which is rediculous in itself because its only 3-4 minutes in which you are unable to farm the jungle, if the above conditions are met. You only gank between top mid or bottom mid depending on sides? i also farm the other sides jungle with dp. You are farmin the other sides jungle on minute 7 ? I do not think that that is accurate unless its a slugfest. in between ganks? yeah you take what you get. and it gives you better global presence, it's not like it takes slark longer than 6 seconds maximum to clear a camp under worst conditions. Worst case is an Ursa camp which takes 2 dps and 850 autohitdamage (approximately 12 autohits which take ~12 seconds). Golems are even worse. Wat? You aren't even making sense anymore *shrug* i'm done. if he doesn't want to learn he won't learn.
it's not like it takes slark longer than 6 seconds maximum to clear a camp under worst conditions.
Worst case is an Ursa camp which takes 2 dps[DARKPACTS] and 850 autohitdamage (approximately 12 autohits which take ~12 seconds). Golems are even worse.
What ?
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On February 17 2013 07:56 cecek wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2013 07:53 PassiveAce wrote:
There are no fanclub threads because no one has bothered to make one afaik. Maybe someone made a sing2 fanclub thread a while ago? cant remember. I think there was a Tobi fanclub. Also, how do I send myself Dota to another account? I kind of feel like smurfing, I had a shitty run recently.
And these are the guys who are complaining about MM
(Hint, smurfing is disrupting the MM experience of everybody, think about that butterfly/tornado thingy)
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On February 17 2013 07:56 cecek wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2013 07:53 PassiveAce wrote:
There are no fanclub threads because no one has bothered to make one afaik. Maybe someone made a sing2 fanclub thread a while ago? cant remember. I think there was a Tobi fanclub. Also, how do I send myself Dota to another account? I kind of feel like smurfing, I had a shitty run recently.
Use multiplty browser
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what boots do you guys get on razor? I really like phase on him because movespeed is key on him and I dont level his passive early because link is dope, what do you guys think?
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United States47024 Posts
Phase, Tranquil, Treads all situationally good.
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On February 17 2013 08:01 PassiveAce wrote:
what boots do you guys get on razor? I really like phase on him because movespeed is key on him and I dont level his passive early because link is dope, what do you guys think?
Tranquils into Treads (using the leftover items to get mek+aquila)
Treads give u mana to get rid of manaissues completely and attackspeed (Treads' attackspeed is far superior than the dmg phase provides due to static link)
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On February 17 2013 08:01 PassiveAce wrote:
what boots do you guys get on razor? I really like phase on him because movespeed is key on him and I dont level his passive early because link is dope, what do you guys think?
I grab tranqs usually. late game switch them out for treads or BoT.
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When was the camp changed to be called Hellbears?
Last patch apparently ^_^ More dumb names.
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Mana boot razor best razor.
More mana -> More static link -> more total damage, durr.
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