General Discussion - Page 2126

On February 09 2013 01:22 ahswtini wrote:
I know Cyrillic so I can understand some words based them sounding like their English counterparts. Things like "пуш" which sounds like push

On February 08 2013 10:18 Nevuk wrote:

Backswings in dota 2 are ridiculously messed up. A lot of spells that shouldn't have backswings do.

I don't think raze is one but it's harder to cancel backswings in general in dota 2 imo.

Basically the cast time is how long it takes the hero to cast the time, the backswing is how long after the spell goes off their animation continues (you can cancel it with hold position or movement or issuing a different command, like the attack in the example 2009 uses). To see backswings in action, use shift + queue actions (it waits for the backswing to complete).

If you really want, here's the current state of backswings in spreadsheet format (also contains the backswing/cast animation times for all heroes)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Av19dIS9ylqYdGpNYVJzZExKWFVQZ21xNE9FWUNpcEE&usp=sharing#gid=0

On February 09 2013 03:23 Andr3 wrote:

Holy shit that spreadsheet is awesome, thanks.

And I do hope Icefrog/Valve fix these issues, if you're making a port of a game make it exactly the same. I know it's hard to import everything but that's what they get for undertaking such a thing.

On February 09 2013 03:30 Shaella wrote:


Its more that its likely many of these backswing cancelling things are bugs/idiosyncraticies of the WC3 engine, and its very hard to code a bug like that into your code intentionally, and to make it work the exact same in two different engines

The reality is that DotA2 will never be exactly like DotA 1, given all the weirdness in WC3s engine, but DotA 2 will strive to be as close as possible to WC3 dota

On February 09 2013 03:44 Andr3 wrote:
Yes, but that's the problem. All that weird shit that happened because of WC3 engine is what made DotA interesting.

I still don't understand all of this exactly though. Why does it say that Alchemist's Acid Spray isn't cancellable during CA(casting animation)? But that it is cancellable during the backswing.

I thought backswing is what happens AFTER you cast/attack. For example mirana when she shoots an arrow she will take some time to re-draw the arrow and shoot and you can cancel that and just move or something during that time.

On February 09 2013 03:50 G3CKO wrote:
So the language filter does nothing. I queue on USE and I still get Russians that refuse to speak any English what so ever. The problem is that Russians or BRs just select every language anyways like they select every server anyways,

On February 09 2013 04:10 r.Evo wrote:
Next up: "Select which client language versions you want to play!"

On February 09 2013 03:50 G3CKO wrote:
So the language filter does nothing. I queue on USE and I still get Russians that refuse to speak any English what so ever. The problem is that Russians or BRs just select every language anyways like they select every server anyways,

On February 09 2013 04:33 PassiveAce wrote:
Does anyone know the list of heroes that cant cast while being hit by clocks battery assualt? I know es is the well known one, but I found out while playing him that I can lock out ogre magi also, now I want to know a full list of his juiciest targets

On February 09 2013 04:35 Unleashing wrote:
Any hero slower or just below 0.7 cast animation.
or well ogre has 0,56
I guess it's from ogre and up that is perma stopped? Not sure, technically ogre should be able to pull off a cast since a mini stun is 0.1 sec and battery is in 0.7 sec intervals, leaving 0,04 time more than needed for ogre to cast.

No clue.