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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
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Benjef
United Kingdom6921 Posts
On February 06 2013 22:56 Kishin2 wrote: I remember when enchantress had untouchable as an ultimate and impetus as a skill. Going mid versus that... terrible memories. What patch was that? I remember my first few games I played, I played against this in mid and thought it was complete bull and stopped playing. When I came back it had changed. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On February 06 2013 22:56 Kishin2 wrote: I remember when enchantress had untouchable as an ultimate and impetus as a skill. Going mid versus that... terrible memories. She was still pretty OP mid even after the change before they nerfed her strength gain. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
On February 06 2013 23:23 Benjef wrote: What patch was that? I remember my first few games I played, I played against this in mid and thought it was complete bull and stopped playing. When I came back it had changed. The change was 6.55 | ||
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Klonere
Ireland4123 Posts
never again | ||
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Fwizzz
Philippines4420 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10945 Posts
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Grettin
42414 Posts
On February 06 2013 23:33 Fwizzz wrote: I'm trying to learn how to play Tinker. Any tips? Dagon + eblade | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34505 Posts
On February 06 2013 23:33 Fwizzz wrote: I'm trying to learn how to play Tinker. Any tips? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=389151 | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On February 06 2013 23:11 Morfildur wrote: "You must have steam guard active for 15 days before you can participate in a trade". Same for market. I don't want steam guard because i'm constantly switching between PC and Notebook and it's annoying -.- Ah well, if it helps me get rid of the DotA2 invite trash... It's a really annoying marketing move by Valve, i think it's even illegal by german law since you can't opt out. Anyways, won't take this thread any further off topic. You only have to validate each computer once with steam guard. The only problem is when they get backlogged and it takes ten minutes for them to send the email instead of instantly ^_^ | ||
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Benjef
United Kingdom6921 Posts
On February 06 2013 23:33 Fwizzz wrote: I'm trying to learn how to play Tinker. Any tips? Shift queue things. He has so many spells and item abilities; shift queuing makes him so powerful. So like BoTs > Hold shift > Laser > dagon > Blink > Rockets. It makes all of this happen stupidly quickly with no delay. iirc there is a phenomenal dota 1 frag video of some guy using shift queues to the extreme. | ||
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Makenshi
Sweden2105 Posts
On February 06 2013 23:33 Fwizzz wrote: I'm trying to learn how to play Tinker. Any tips? work your apm :p http://sv.twitch.tv/merlinidota/c/1728482 | ||
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dfs
Russian Federation4050 Posts
Shift is your friend. | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Shift requires you to be even faster. Sure, it is better, because the spells/items get cast faster, but it is in no way easier. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
On February 07 2013 00:34 cecek wrote: Shift requires you to be even faster. Sure, it is better, because the spells/items get cast faster, but it is in no way easier. It's not about apm, it's about executing things in the order you want them to without tripping over your keyboard. What makes using shift strong is that you don't accidentally cancel TPs/Rearms. For the stuff where "apm" matters (e.g. March Soulring Bottle Rearm) it shouldn't make a big difference in the beginning whether you use shift or roll your face over the keyboard. Edit: Achieving super maximum speed with shift to e.g. Dagon Eblade one dude, Sheep the other and laser the third into march rockets blink rearm blink back in repeat is another story. That's not crucial for learning how 2 Tinker tho. =P PS: I'd also recommend laser/rocket builds over march. Laser on every cooldown, enjoy midlane! | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On February 07 2013 00:37 r.Evo wrote: It's not about apm, it's about executing things in the order you want them to without tripping over your keyboard. What makes using shift strong is that you don't accidentally cancel TPs/Rearms. For the stuff where "apm" matters (e.g. March Soulring Bottle Rearm) it shouldn't make a big difference in the beginning whether you use shift or roll your face over the keyboard. Edit: Achieving super maximum speed with shift to e.g. Dagon Eblade one dude, Sheep the other and laser the third into march rockets blink rearm blink back in repeat is another story. That's not crucial for learning how 2 Tinker tho. =P PS: I'd also recommend laser/rocket builds over march. Laser on every cooldown, enjoy midlane! I'd say that tinker is less about apm (you'll get a hang of near perfect APM after 20-30 games), and he is more about good positioning, decision making, map awareness, etc. It's not too hard to chain sheep + laser + rocket someone, its a little more difficult to keep someone sheeped, eulsed, blink away rearm, march on the right area, etc, but its more important to know where you should be when - when to split push, when to be participating in teamfights, when to defend etc. I also prefer march build over rocket / laser - though you can outright win midlane against some matchups with laser rocket. Edit: I pretty much always go soul ring blink sheep stick euls. The teamfight control is ridiculous. | ||
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Benjef
United Kingdom6921 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34505 Posts
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TheEmulator
28102 Posts
On February 06 2013 23:42 Kipsate wrote: If you have access to some old games try and look for Bulba, ohyo and Sockk, they play some pretty good Tinkers. Dendi has some as well. Actually if you watch his stream you will probably see him play it once in a while. | ||
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