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On February 05 2013 06:32 Sn0_Man wrote:
Warlock golems benefit an insane amount from beastmaster aura. They turn into dps machines, although it doesn't change the fact that they also turn opposing diffusal blades into hands of midas.
That's why you get aghanim. Reduces bounty on golems and makes 2 golems. :D
But yea, with just a little bit of attack speed level 3 golems deal pretty insane damage.
They're incredibly easy to kill with any kind of physical damage though. Especially with a hero like n'aix.
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Warlock is one of those heroes that nobody ever picks unless they are tryharding or playing to win, so he naturally has a high pub win rate. Fatal bonds and rock are also amazing skills.
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Warlock is an awful hero. Every time I random him (prolly about every 3rd game or so) I want to uninstall dota. Hi guys I'm a support with no good stun/slow to speak of until ulti, useless damage, a slow (non-burst) heal that is good vs harass but terrible at saving people, etc. My only non-ulti slow is CHANNELING WTF IS DIS. My super-awesome ulti that is supposed to make up for how ass my hero is in reality just feeds opponents gold after stunning them for ONE WHOLE SECOND. WTB real hero.
Plus his changelog is a joke. Its like 13 straight patches of buffs, and the hero is still trash.
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Once you hit refresher aghs you generally can 1v5 in pubs if you have good positioning (IE are on high ground and they are on lowground), once you add necro 3 to that, you can split push with necro 3 and they have to send the whole team to stop you, because sending only 2-3 people results is a horrible butchering and a lost rax.
Warlock is very strong, he's just... so bad at the same time. lol He's a support hero that sucks solo and needs farm and levels. And has no way of farming it except a great animation, until 6 then he can farm jungle and lane at same time same as many strong carries. He's necrolyte levels of support carry essentially, except he's offense based not defense.
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On February 05 2013 06:33 Yoshi- wrote:Well, since twitch didn't include actual numbers, this is pretty worthless as they list hots and wotl separated and you can't really say if sc2 decline came from HOTS or not.
Assuming SC2 in total is having more viewers than Dota2, it's still good to see the growth.
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On February 05 2013 06:33 Yoshi- wrote:
Well, since twitch didn't include actual numbers, this is pretty worthless as they list hots and wotl separated and you can't really say if sc2 decline came from HOTS or not.
wat does wrath of the lich king have to do with SC2? >_>
Teehee.
EDIT: Hmmm i forgot you need a K for king 
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On February 05 2013 06:51 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2013 06:33 Yoshi- wrote:
Well, since twitch didn't include actual numbers, this is pretty worthless as they list hots and wotl separated and you can't really say if sc2 decline came from HOTS or not. wat does wrath of the lich king have to do with SC2? >_> Teehee.
Wings of the liberty?
or
Wings of liberty?
I think later seems more likely, but who the hell cares, both are quite terrible names imo
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I don't see WoL or HotS head of DotA2 for a while now. Damn I still remember when Na'Vi vs someone had more viewers than IEM Katowice SC2 Finals..
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yo, WL is one of the best comeback kings. Well, one of the forgotten ones including heroes like ES. People often didnt realize how powerful these heroes are in dota2.
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Also to speak of why WL's WR is so high, golem is a set DPS which is pretty high. When WL is compared to a AM which has an 11 minute BF, he kind of sucks, especially if the enemy team gets a diffusal on someone. But when you are compared to a faceless void who got a naked MoM at 30 minutes... golem is OP.
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Warlock is the only hero in the game I insta repick when I random him. I usually play supports too.
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
On February 05 2013 06:33 Yoshi- wrote:Well, since twitch didn't include actual numbers, this is pretty worthless as they list hots and wotl separated and you can't really say if sc2 decline came from HOTS or not. I've been having a look on the total streams list now and then since own3d went down.
During European day times both SC games combined aren't really close to Dota. The main difference is that Dota has regular daily competitions which pull in big numbers. Unless it's a big LAN event, SC competitions don't really have good numbers at all. (And even for the big comps thier numbers are still not that impressive anymore. IEM SC2 had like 30k viewers) Compare that to Dota, which daily has JD/BTS/Other's that get 10k+, quite often now up to 20k. Including Russian streams sometimes 30k.
When The Europeans go to sleep the stream numbers tank though. But the most important thing about the Dota numbers increasing is that Dota competitions are getting big numbers. Player streams, although nice, don't grow the game as an esport tremendously, and that's what composes most of the other eSports games big numbers.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/9iEg3pZ.jpg)
Sorry about the messy graph, best I could get.
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Czech Republic18921 Posts
You need good heroes for Warlock to abuse fatal bonds. poison nova + bonds wins teamfight on it's own. Warlock + axe mid is also very strong, you just fatal bond the enemy hero + creeps and have the axe tank creeps to spin. These are the 2 best combos, imo.
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On February 05 2013 07:55 Numy wrote:
Warlock is the only hero in the game I insta repick when I random him. I usually play supports too.
Just play games with him as a farming character, he's a lot of fun and actually fairly deep in terms of how to get fatal bonds where you want it and when to upheaval and when to move. when to push lane with golem when to farm jungle when to save it ect. Warlock isn't bad, but stats/heal is pretty mediocre until 6.
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Czech Republic18921 Posts
On February 05 2013 08:52 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2013 07:55 Numy wrote:
Warlock is the only hero in the game I insta repick when I random him. I usually play supports too. Just play games with him as a farming character, he's a lot of fun and actually fairly deep in terms of how to get fatal bonds where you want it and when to upheaval and when to move. when to push lane with golem when to farm jungle when to save it ect. Warlock isn't bad, but stats/heal is pretty mediocre until 6.
You don't go stats heal since the fatal bonds buff, do you? Fatal bonds is a good harassment early on if paired with creeps even if you don't have any spammable nuke to make it absurd.
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United States47024 Posts
Fatal vs. Heal is situational (generally you get away with more fatal in easy lanes and more heal in harder lanes). Stats before 6 is sometimes OK, but it depends on the lanes.
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There are just other far cooler characters in the game to use. I'd rather farm on someone else and support on someone else. He isn't bad per say just boring that's all.
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Australia7069 Posts
it would be so sick if they change upheval to something a bit more useful early and made warlock a competative pick. can you imagine how strong fatal bonds would be against a trilane? get the dirge +1 and the +1 is pretty fucked
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Think fatal bonds vs a trilane would be rather tricky to land on all the heroes early level?(Does it prioritize heroes) He doesn't really give any disable or burst damage though. Guess he'll be good with dirge but who the freak isn't good with dirge in a trilane. Dunno I just don't like dirge or warlock rofl. Dirge super annoying to play against and warlock super boring to play as. It's like the ultimate combo of boring!
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United States47024 Posts
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