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Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
January 29 2013 22:08 GMT
#40681
On January 30 2013 06:53 crms wrote:
2GD just announced that statsman bruno will be joining the GD studio full time for their dota 2 stuff. Sweet.

This is just awesome. No offense against Weppas, Sing or Draskyll, but as good as they are in DotA, their knowledge about what's going on in the scene seems pretty limited at times and so far Bruno really is on the top of stuff like this tbh.
EHOME 2010 never forget EHOME.GIGABYTE.AAA B-God In BurNing we trust BurNing your soul DK 2011-2014
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 29 2013 22:11 GMT
#40682
On January 30 2013 07:08 Talron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 06:53 crms wrote:
2GD just announced that statsman bruno will be joining the GD studio full time for their dota 2 stuff. Sweet.

This is just awesome. No offense against Weppas, Sing or Draskyll, but as good as they are in DotA, their knowledge about what's going on in the scene seems pretty limited at times and so far Bruno really is on the top of stuff like this tbh.

Wait, Draskyll's knowledge is limited?

...That seems...off.
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akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
January 29 2013 22:13 GMT
#40683
Apparently every spell has 25 less range than it should have. That would explain a lot of things.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
January 29 2013 22:16 GMT
#40684
On January 30 2013 07:01 Unleashing wrote:
Aghs clockwerk allows you to be spiderman, not sure there is any better skill upgrade with aghanim out there.

Huskar Aghanims allows you to be Venom, definitely in competition with spiderclock.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-29 22:18:43
January 29 2013 22:17 GMT
#40685
On January 30 2013 07:13 akatama wrote:
Apparently every spell has 25 less range than it should have. That would explain a lot of things.

Not 25 range, it's variable per hero, depending on the unit's collision size. The reason is that spell ranges are supposed to be measured from the front of the unit, not from the unit's center. Most heroes have a collision size of 24 units, that's why the initial assumption was just that heroes lose 25 range.

This is verifiable using Naga's Ensnare and a normal hero with Dagon 2--both have 650 range, but Naga only has a collision size of 8 so she "loses" less range.
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
January 29 2013 22:25 GMT
#40686
On January 30 2013 07:16 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 07:01 Unleashing wrote:
Aghs clockwerk allows you to be spiderman, not sure there is any better skill upgrade with aghanim out there.

Huskar Aghanims allows you to be Venom, definitely in competition with spiderclock.

speaking of huskar aghs combos...


huskar aghs
necro aghs

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooyeahhhhhhhhh.
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Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
January 29 2013 22:25 GMT
#40687
On January 30 2013 07:11 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 07:08 Talron wrote:
On January 30 2013 06:53 crms wrote:
2GD just announced that statsman bruno will be joining the GD studio full time for their dota 2 stuff. Sweet.

This is just awesome. No offense against Weppas, Sing or Draskyll, but as good as they are in DotA, their knowledge about what's going on in the scene seems pretty limited at times and so far Bruno really is on the top of stuff like this tbh.

Wait, Draskyll's knowledge is limited?

...That seems...off.

Not about DotA as a game, but you ... How should I put it. Just what GD show is covering. Tournament standings, each teams performance, results, rumors, upcoming tournaments, sponsorships, roster shuffles and whatnot. I haven't seen him that often on the GD show tbh, but the times I have seen him he didn't really have much input. He might've just been not that well prepared the times I have seen him. But that's most likely just me.
Either way I'm glad we're seeing more of IceFrog Bruno in the future.
EHOME 2010 never forget EHOME.GIGABYTE.AAA B-God In BurNing we trust BurNing your soul DK 2011-2014
duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
January 29 2013 22:28 GMT
#40688
Bruno is awesome and I actually think he was the person when 2GD said he was bringing people in. Did he said when is he arriving?
"I really like Marauders and Marines." - Flash
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-29 22:30:42
January 29 2013 22:29 GMT
#40689
On January 30 2013 07:25 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 07:16 PrinceXizor wrote:
On January 30 2013 07:01 Unleashing wrote:
Aghs clockwerk allows you to be spiderman, not sure there is any better skill upgrade with aghanim out there.

Huskar Aghanims allows you to be Venom, definitely in competition with spiderclock.

speaking of huskar aghs combos...


huskar aghs
necro aghs

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooyeahhhhhhhhh.

doesn't actually kill because of magic resist, you have to throw in shadow demon soul catcher. but yeah that combo insta kills anyone who isn't magic immune or AM with rubick and hood. >.<
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 29 2013 22:35 GMT
#40690
On January 30 2013 07:29 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 07:25 crms wrote:
On January 30 2013 07:16 PrinceXizor wrote:
On January 30 2013 07:01 Unleashing wrote:
Aghs clockwerk allows you to be spiderman, not sure there is any better skill upgrade with aghanim out there.

Huskar Aghanims allows you to be Venom, definitely in competition with spiderclock.

speaking of huskar aghs combos...


huskar aghs
necro aghs

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooyeahhhhhhhhh.

doesn't actually kill because of magic resist, you have to throw in shadow demon soul catcher. but yeah that combo insta kills anyone who isn't magic immune or AM with rubick and hood. >.<

Uh, well I guess you missed out on the assumed Ethereal Blade. I mean, EB is core on both of those heroes.
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Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
January 29 2013 22:38 GMT
#40691
Wasn't bruno a professor in argentina or that was a troll?
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
January 29 2013 22:39 GMT
#40692
On January 30 2013 07:35 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 07:29 PrinceXizor wrote:
On January 30 2013 07:25 crms wrote:
On January 30 2013 07:16 PrinceXizor wrote:
On January 30 2013 07:01 Unleashing wrote:
Aghs clockwerk allows you to be spiderman, not sure there is any better skill upgrade with aghanim out there.

Huskar Aghanims allows you to be Venom, definitely in competition with spiderclock.

speaking of huskar aghs combos...


huskar aghs
necro aghs

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooyeahhhhhhhhh.

doesn't actually kill because of magic resist, you have to throw in shadow demon soul catcher. but yeah that combo insta kills anyone who isn't magic immune or AM with rubick and hood. >.<

Uh, well I guess you missed out on the assumed Ethereal Blade. I mean, EB is core on both of those heroes.

Oh come now. but seriously one of the most fun teams is 1 position necrolyte 5 position shadow demon 2 position huskar.

SD Necrolyte with lina/lion/leshrac/any other L support in a tri lane is great and huskar shadow demon necrolyte lets you just walk up to anyone in the game with that combo and kill them smoke ganks become impossible to escape from
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 29 2013 22:39 GMT
#40693
On January 30 2013 07:35 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 07:29 PrinceXizor wrote:
On January 30 2013 07:25 crms wrote:
On January 30 2013 07:16 PrinceXizor wrote:
On January 30 2013 07:01 Unleashing wrote:
Aghs clockwerk allows you to be spiderman, not sure there is any better skill upgrade with aghanim out there.

Huskar Aghanims allows you to be Venom, definitely in competition with spiderclock.

speaking of huskar aghs combos...


huskar aghs
necro aghs

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooyeahhhhhhhhh.

doesn't actually kill because of magic resist, you have to throw in shadow demon soul catcher. but yeah that combo insta kills anyone who isn't magic immune or AM with rubick and hood. >.<

Uh, well I guess you missed out on the assumed Ethereal Blade. I mean, EB is core on both of those heroes.


EBlade + Dagon 5, core on every hero. Especially Necrolyte. #yoloswagMLGSkillShotZ
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8921 Posts
January 29 2013 22:40 GMT
#40694
is the range being shorter actually true? cause ive always thought shadowfiend had problems with his razes. actually i just think shadowfiend has problems in general, starting from his design, animations and raze ranges.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 29 2013 22:42 GMT
#40695
On January 30 2013 07:38 Soap wrote:
Wasn't bruno a professor in argentina or that was a troll?

http://dota-academy.com/about/
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akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
January 29 2013 22:42 GMT
#40696
On January 30 2013 07:25 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 07:16 PrinceXizor wrote:
On January 30 2013 07:01 Unleashing wrote:
Aghs clockwerk allows you to be spiderman, not sure there is any better skill upgrade with aghanim out there.

Huskar Aghanims allows you to be Venom, definitely in competition with spiderclock.

speaking of huskar aghs combos...


huskar aghs
necro aghs

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooyeahhhhhhhhh.

I see your combo and raise you a Ghost Scepter Nyx.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-29 22:44:35
January 29 2013 22:43 GMT
#40697
On January 30 2013 07:40 evilfatsh1t wrote:
is the range being shorter actually true? cause ive always thought shadowfiend had problems with his razes. actually i just think shadowfiend has problems in general, starting from his design, animations and raze ranges.

It's easily verifiable because it doesn't affect autoattacks.

Pick any orb hero who's orb has same range as their autoattack. Autoattack from max range, then use the orb. The hero has to walk forward to use the orb.

Likewise, using a collision size 8 hero (Naga, transformed Lycan, etc.) and active items can be used to verify this on spells for various spell ranges. As I mentioned before, Naga can cast net from 16 range farther than a collision size-24 hero casting a similar 650 range spell (Dagon 2).
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-29 22:44:17
January 29 2013 22:43 GMT
#40698
On January 30 2013 07:42 akatama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 07:25 crms wrote:
On January 30 2013 07:16 PrinceXizor wrote:
On January 30 2013 07:01 Unleashing wrote:
Aghs clockwerk allows you to be spiderman, not sure there is any better skill upgrade with aghanim out there.

Huskar Aghanims allows you to be Venom, definitely in competition with spiderclock.

speaking of huskar aghs combos...


huskar aghs
necro aghs

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooyeahhhhhhhhh.

I see your combo and raise you a Ghost Scepter Nyx.

I see your ghost scepter nyx and raise you a diffusal blade omniknight to repel to take off ghost scepter then purge the repel.
though you might be able to just purge the ghost scepter. i never tried that before.
akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
January 29 2013 22:45 GMT
#40699
On January 30 2013 07:43 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 07:42 akatama wrote:
On January 30 2013 07:25 crms wrote:
On January 30 2013 07:16 PrinceXizor wrote:
On January 30 2013 07:01 Unleashing wrote:
Aghs clockwerk allows you to be spiderman, not sure there is any better skill upgrade with aghanim out there.

Huskar Aghanims allows you to be Venom, definitely in competition with spiderclock.

speaking of huskar aghs combos...


huskar aghs
necro aghs

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooyeahhhhhhhhh.

I see your combo and raise you a Ghost Scepter Nyx.

I see your ghost scepter nyx and raise you a diffusal blade omniknight to repel to take off ghost scepter then purge the repel.
though you might be able to just purge the ghost scepter. i never tried that before.

Next i'll buy Linken's on my Nyx.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 29 2013 22:45 GMT
#40700
On January 30 2013 07:43 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 07:42 akatama wrote:
On January 30 2013 07:25 crms wrote:
On January 30 2013 07:16 PrinceXizor wrote:
On January 30 2013 07:01 Unleashing wrote:
Aghs clockwerk allows you to be spiderman, not sure there is any better skill upgrade with aghanim out there.

Huskar Aghanims allows you to be Venom, definitely in competition with spiderclock.

speaking of huskar aghs combos...


huskar aghs
necro aghs

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooyeahhhhhhhhh.

I see your combo and raise you a Ghost Scepter Nyx.

I see your ghost scepter nyx and raise you a diffusal blade omniknight to repel to take off ghost scepter then purge the repel.
though you might be able to just purge the ghost scepter. i never tried that before.

Ghost Form is purge-able.

6.72 - Purge now removes Ghost Scepter's Ghost Form
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