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Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
January 29 2013 20:18 GMT
#40621
On January 30 2013 05:16 igotmyown wrote:
By the way, chuan has a qb on his safelane tiny, since this is a controversial topic.


Is it a controversial topic?
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
January 29 2013 20:18 GMT
#40622
Tbh, he could probably win his lane with any items or none at all
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-29 20:21:06
January 29 2013 20:19 GMT
#40623
On January 30 2013 05:16 igotmyown wrote:
By the way, chuan has a qb on his safelane tiny, since this is a controversial topic.

It was also an uneven lane.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 29 2013 20:23 GMT
#40624
On January 30 2013 05:15 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 05:01 Comeh wrote:
On January 30 2013 04:59 cecek wrote:
singsing with amazing insight as ever... I think I'm the only person in the world that thinks he's just a dumb kid.

He's pretty good though.

i mean.. he's not a top tier player by any means though.

Hm? When he is active, I would argue he is one of the better solo mids in EU / US. Maybe not the best, but probably better than the average professional solo mid (not that the EU/US scene is filled with great mid players).
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Elenar
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden137 Posts
January 29 2013 20:37 GMT
#40625
What does Heaven's Halberd "disarm" actually do?
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
January 29 2013 20:37 GMT
#40626
disarm means that the target cant autoattack.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
January 29 2013 20:37 GMT
#40627
On January 30 2013 05:37 Elenar wrote:
What does Heaven's Halberd "disarm" actually do?

Makes the target unable to attack. Same as every other disarm
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Elenar
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden137 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-29 20:39:12
January 29 2013 20:38 GMT
#40628
On January 30 2013 05:37 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 05:37 Elenar wrote:
What does Heaven's Halberd "disarm" actually do?

Makes the target unable to attack. Same as every other disarm


Haha, what other disarms are there? And why does it not see more play, seemes like great vs carries?
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-29 20:39:45
January 29 2013 20:39 GMT
#40629
Silencers single target spell (last word?), and invokers deafening blast.
maybe more? not sure
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 29 2013 20:40 GMT
#40630
On January 30 2013 05:38 Elenar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 05:37 Qbek wrote:
On January 30 2013 05:37 Elenar wrote:
What does Heaven's Halberd "disarm" actually do?

Makes the target unable to attack. Same as every other disarm


Haha, what other disarms are there?

Off the top of my head: Silencer's E (aka bullshit spell), Invokers Defeaning blast, ummmm that's all I can think of.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
January 29 2013 20:40 GMT
#40631
On January 30 2013 05:39 PassiveAce wrote:
Silencers single target spell (last word?), and invokers deafening blast.
maybe more? not sure

I think that's all, not a very common effect
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
January 29 2013 20:43 GMT
#40632
Two of those disarm effects are relatively new, so I bet that more get introduced with new content. I have no idea how old the disarm on deafening blast is tho, I assume its ancient.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 29 2013 20:43 GMT
#40633
On January 30 2013 05:40 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 05:39 PassiveAce wrote:
Silencers single target spell (last word?), and invokers deafening blast.
maybe more? not sure

I think that's all, not a very common effect

According to dota2 wiki, we got them all.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
January 29 2013 20:44 GMT
#40634
On January 30 2013 05:43 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 05:40 Qbek wrote:
On January 30 2013 05:39 PassiveAce wrote:
Silencers single target spell (last word?), and invokers deafening blast.
maybe more? not sure

I think that's all, not a very common effect

According to dota2 wiki, we got them all.

We're so good at this =x
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Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-29 20:47:24
January 29 2013 20:46 GMT
#40635
Phoenix Icarus Dive also used to disarm until his recent 9001st remake. and @ above: Roof overgrowth prevents attacking / disarms.

But I see halberd as an underrated item in general - partly because of the lack of heroes, who make huge use of it, bar the disarm ability. It's gonna end up like forcestaff in the future, being bought in every game, because it's just that good in the end.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 29 2013 20:46 GMT
#40636
On January 30 2013 05:38 Elenar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 05:37 Qbek wrote:
On January 30 2013 05:37 Elenar wrote:
What does Heaven's Halberd "disarm" actually do?

Makes the target unable to attack. Same as every other disarm


Haha, what other disarms are there? And why does it not see more play, seemes like great vs carries?


Magic Immunity overrides a disarm. Most carries buy BKB so it is useless.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 29 2013 20:46 GMT
#40637
On January 30 2013 05:44 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 05:43 Comeh wrote:
On January 30 2013 05:40 Qbek wrote:
On January 30 2013 05:39 PassiveAce wrote:
Silencers single target spell (last word?), and invokers deafening blast.
maybe more? not sure

I think that's all, not a very common effect

According to dota2 wiki, we got them all.

We're so good at this =x

Dreaming about how to play a better Lone Druid versus PL matchup and simulating possible games in my dreams every night will do that to you.

I should go outside more.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
January 29 2013 20:47 GMT
#40638
Yeah Halberd has a very good build up and adds a lot of EHP. And disarm is really quite good, especially against heroes like clinkz
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 29 2013 20:49 GMT
#40639
On January 30 2013 05:46 Talron wrote:
Phoenix Icarus Dive also used to disarm until his recent 9001st remake. and @ above: Roof overgrowth prevents attacking / disarms.

But I see halberd as an underrated item in general - partly because of the lack of heroes, who make huge use of it, bar the disarm ability. It's gonna end up like forcestaff in the future, being bought in every game, because it's just that good in the end.


A disarm doesn't prevent movement. Overgrowth can't be counted as a disarm.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 29 2013 20:52 GMT
#40640
On January 30 2013 05:47 Qbek wrote:
Yeah Halberd has a very good build up and adds a lot of EHP. And disarm is really quite good, especially against heroes like clinkz

The biggest problem about disarms is that they don't go through BKB and that it can be manta-styled away (IIRC), which unfortunately includes most heroes that are most effected by Disarm. A lot of Clinkz' will grab a BKB after Orchid (though many will grab another damage item), so ...meh.
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