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njt7
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden769 Posts
January 29 2013 14:27 GMT
#40561
Maybe Spectre isnt the "best" carry atm. but she could fit very well into the "wisp hello there" combos. Imaging facing spectre, naix, wisp + whatever. Obviously naix infests someone, wisps brings whoever and spectre ulties in. I have no idea how you would lane it but it would be hilarious when it actually works. Add furion and zues, aa or tinker for good measure.
"All the casters who flamed me ever for anything."
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
January 29 2013 14:30 GMT
#40562
naix np wisp + 1 for that 4 man global gank squad. I guess you could round it out with a ancient apparition or something.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
January 29 2013 14:34 GMT
#40563
On January 29 2013 22:50 Numy wrote:
I haven't used the build before so can't comment but just from first impressions how is her farming on it? PL works wonders because he can still farm really fast while going a more fighting oriented build.

The idea is not that you improve your farming but that you can participate in midgame teamfights and snowball of that, maybe even transitioning back into Radiance for farm later on. If you can't manage to get that snowball rolling with it, you're pretty fucked.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
SirMilford
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1269 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-29 14:37:52
January 29 2013 14:35 GMT
#40564
On January 29 2013 23:27 DoNotDisturb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 22:42 SirMilford wrote:
Surprised the patented TL General forums build of Phase +drums+ diffusal hasn't popped up yet.


isn't it tranq+aquila+drums

although Zhou started it

that is for Luna not spec. I think its TheYango/emulator isn't it? It might be tranquils+vitbooster+drum+diffusal.

EDIT: FOUND it!
On September 18 2012 15:01 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 14:55 SirMilford wrote:
A slight buff to voids mana costs would go a long way imo, although he might not have AM's blink, timewalk can be used to move around the jungle fast. Spectre probablu just needs desolate+dispertion on one skill, with a new move.

TBH I think Spectre's closer to being there than Void. Void still has the issue that Void still needs his 2nd/3rd major item to be a teamfight presence beyond his ultimate. Spectre's midgame damage potential on the other hand is quite considerable with Ult+Desolate; she's a very powerful midgame teamfighter with some combination of Urn, Aquila, Janggo, Yasha, and Diffusal. Some base stat or mana cost tweaks to smooth out her laning or the transition from midgame items to lategame items (which are probably the most awkward points for a midgame teamfight-build Spectre) could be all that's needed to make her midgame presence strong enough to be a viable carry.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=255359&currentpage=1047#20935
akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-29 14:40:10
January 29 2013 14:37 GMT
#40565
On January 29 2013 23:30 PassiveAce wrote:
naix np wisp + 1 for that 4 man global gank squad. I guess you could round it out with a ancient apparition or something.

or KotL. Relocate him in and have him Recall the fifth guy. Bonus points for backdooring and making the enemy team rage.

this reminds me that I want to practice Wisp. Anyone care to join me in a few hours?
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 29 2013 14:38 GMT
#40566
On January 29 2013 23:34 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 22:50 Numy wrote:
I haven't used the build before so can't comment but just from first impressions how is her farming on it? PL works wonders because he can still farm really fast while going a more fighting oriented build.

The idea is not that you improve your farming but that you can participate in midgame teamfights and snowball of that, maybe even transitioning back into Radiance for farm later on. If you can't manage to get that snowball rolling with it, you're pretty fucked.


Yea I get that. Was just saying it's good on PL because he can still farm
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
January 29 2013 14:40 GMT
#40567
On January 29 2013 23:06 Atoissen wrote:
Anyone know what happened to NoTidehunter's sponsor/team signing??
I remamber they were hinitng about it, but then it all got silent, cant find anything about it...

I heard EternalEnvy talk about it on his stream not even a week ago. He said they are sponsored and receive salary, just the team isn't finished yet. As in, they don't have a name/logo, etc. Rumors have it it's the new Steelseries thing.
super gg
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 29 2013 15:16 GMT
#40568
My question isn't whether or not Spectre could be effective in the midgame (sounds like radiance build is no longer legitimate on her, which means she has severe farming problems), but rather why not just pick some other carry that is either better at farming (and hits their endgame faster aka AM) or pick a carry that hits a stronger midgame than her (say, naix, PL, practically every carry in the game bar medusa)?
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42414 Posts
January 29 2013 15:26 GMT
#40569
Yes! Chuan with webcam!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
January 29 2013 15:39 GMT
#40570
If you're Chuan's friend, never play prophet. You'll never get to farm for even 30 seconds.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-29 15:44:44
January 29 2013 15:42 GMT
#40571
tinker has to be the least effort pub stomping hero xD Chuans not even trying

EDIT: O_O if chuan was happy with my support i could die happy.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 29 2013 15:44 GMT
#40572
On January 30 2013 00:39 Oktyabr wrote:
If you're Chuan's friend, never play prophet. You'll never get to farm for even 30 seconds.


So true haha.

With respect to spectre, her only upside is that you can be braindead and still make the right decision on farming vs being there in teamfights: Press R.
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Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
January 29 2013 15:45 GMT
#40573
His stream is too hilarious from a Singaporean/Malaysian's perspective.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
January 29 2013 15:46 GMT
#40574
On January 30 2013 00:44 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 00:39 Oktyabr wrote:
If you're Chuan's friend, never play prophet. You'll never get to farm for even 30 seconds.


So true haha.

With respect to spectre, her only upside is that you can be braindead and still make the right decision on farming vs being there in teamfights: Press R.

This only assumes that the right decision is farm unless team fighting. it could easily be, neither farm nor team fight,
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
January 29 2013 15:48 GMT
#40575
Ahaha chuan kills QoP, denies allied CM, blinks and kills lina, shouts DID YOU SEE THAT?
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
January 29 2013 15:51 GMT
#40576
LOL

this spiritbreaker just said to chuan (who's smurfing) yo tinker i don't think you're good, i saw your 9 minute BoTs

ahahahahahahahaha imagine if he found out he was talking to ti2 winner
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FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
January 29 2013 15:51 GMT
#40577
On January 30 2013 00:48 Firebolt145 wrote:
Ahaha chuan kills QoP, denies allied CM, blinks and kills lina, shouts DID YOU SEE THAT?


a thing of beauty

and rofl that bara :D
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-29 15:55:07
January 29 2013 15:53 GMT
#40578
On January 30 2013 00:46 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 00:44 Sn0_Man wrote:
On January 30 2013 00:39 Oktyabr wrote:
If you're Chuan's friend, never play prophet. You'll never get to farm for even 30 seconds.


So true haha.

With respect to spectre, her only upside is that you can be braindead and still make the right decision on farming vs being there in teamfights: Press R.

This only assumes that the right decision is farm unless team fighting. it could easily be, neither farm nor team fight,

That means you lost the game if your decision making is not to fight and not to farm :D
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
January 29 2013 15:53 GMT
#40579
LOL yep. though chuans Dazzle is really on point with the shallow graves, he's saved people from laguna blade like 7 times.
StoRm_res
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland891 Posts
January 29 2013 15:53 GMT
#40580
57:30 in a 30 minute game lol, 3 kills per minute. Now thats action packed ^^
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