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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 21 2013 17:56 GMT
#38781
On January 22 2013 02:53 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 02:49 BurningSera wrote:
On January 22 2013 01:11 aintz wrote:
id wear a teamliquid hoody, but navi nope. as for the naked blonde, meh, gotta be a super virgin to be appealed by an ad like that.


I was going to ask him what would a super virgin feel like when he plays a dark hair lady hero like QoP then until i saw that ban

That ad is pretty cool imo, the first 10seconds defo caught my attention (well i am a healthy man *cough*) and then the hoodies seems really comfortable! Will buy if i can get it below 20pounds tbh :3

I'm 100% sure the hoodies weight less than 20 pounds.

With or without the girl?
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
January 21 2013 18:03 GMT
#38782
On January 22 2013 02:53 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 02:49 BurningSera wrote:
On January 22 2013 01:11 aintz wrote:
id wear a teamliquid hoody, but navi nope. as for the naked blonde, meh, gotta be a super virgin to be appealed by an ad like that.


I was going to ask him what would a super virgin feel like when he plays a dark hair lady hero like QoP then until i saw that ban

That ad is pretty cool imo, the first 10seconds defo caught my attention (well i am a healthy man *cough*) and then the hoodies seems really comfortable! Will buy if i can get it below 20pounds tbh :3

I'm 100% sure the hoodies weight less than 20 pounds.


rofl.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
RageBot
Profile Joined November 2010
Israel1530 Posts
January 21 2013 18:07 GMT
#38783
Well, what do you do against Naix? |:
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
January 21 2013 18:12 GMT
#38784
forcestaff or something like roar/lasso/bh/rp
not letting him hit you works most of the time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42414 Posts
January 21 2013 18:15 GMT
#38785
On January 22 2013 03:12 Erasme wrote:
forcestaff or something like roar/lasso/bh/rp
not letting him hit you works most of the time


in other words, run fast, run far.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
January 21 2013 18:17 GMT
#38786
if i am lazy ill go necro, less than 50% hp = autokill. Quite similar to huskar at some point. Or do disabler combos. Or lina+lion double zaps. The idea is not to let him get near you and torture him to death after his rage.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-21 18:20:15
January 21 2013 18:17 GMT
#38787
On January 22 2013 03:07 RageBot wrote:
Well, what do you do against Naix? |:

Purge, ganks, and stuff that goes through magic immunity that can hold him still, doom works pretty well on naix too. the general "i want to shut this guy down" tactics.

On January 22 2013 03:17 BurningSera wrote:
if i am lazy ill go necro, less than 50% hp = autokill. Quite similar to huskar at some point. Or do disabler combos. Or lina+lion double zaps. The idea is not to let him get near you and torture him to death after his rage.



if you want the rofl-way of killing naix or really literally any character, necrolyte, huskar, shadow demon is a fun combo, soul catcher and purge to keep him from running, then huskar jumps him and the necrolyte uses his scythe for the auto kill.
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
January 21 2013 18:17 GMT
#38788
Beastmaster mid, jungle or offlane. Almost no one plays him in pubs (along with similar Melee tempo heroes like brewmaster and nightstalker) but he's actually really strong and you'd be surprised how quickly Naix goes down under a Roar even if he is Raged.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 21 2013 18:19 GMT
#38789
Venomancer is underated against Naix although you do have a Venomancer on your team then.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
January 21 2013 18:20 GMT
#38790
On January 22 2013 03:19 Kipsate wrote:
Venomancer is underated against Naix although you do have a Venomancer on your team then.

Yet another example of how the metagame shifts. Not long ago veno was considered top pick material. Granted he was nerfed but it was a small one.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-21 18:22:32
January 21 2013 18:22 GMT
#38791
On January 22 2013 03:07 RageBot wrote:
Well, what do you do against Naix? |:

He's also a carry that doesn't deal with split push very well - I think teams are undervaluing AM right now if they can set up a comfortable lane with him (kotl would either need to be picked or banned, IMO, as it gives too much presence in a lane and deals with split push well).

Alternatively Void can chrono him as well, relaly.

I feel like Naix is kind of sven-like right now - he's a really strong hero, but he has ways you can deal with him. I feel as though teams that are picking Naix are simply just better than the teams they are playing against, and it has less to do with naxi himself. Forcestalfs / ghost scepters, roar, batrider, black hole, RP, stunning him when rage is down, etc etc. This guy CAN be beaten, and it used to not be uncommon to do so. Teams just aren't playing intelligently imo.

Edit: wait for china to come back.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 21 2013 18:33 GMT
#38792
On January 22 2013 03:20 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 03:19 Kipsate wrote:
Venomancer is underated against Naix although you do have a Venomancer on your team then.

Yet another example of how the metagame shifts. Not long ago veno was considered top pick material. Granted he was nerfed but it was a small one.

It has more to do with the change in how the game plays. His counter-pushing is less relevant than it was around the time of TI2, and as a support with no hard disables, he's very vulnerable to facerush melees.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 21 2013 18:51 GMT
#38793
Don't forget ghost scepters. One of the best ways to deal with melee physical damage carries. Find it's usually better alternate then trying to farm new force on a low farm support unless you need the mobility for other reasons.
AkalineMess
Profile Joined December 2012
249 Posts
January 21 2013 18:51 GMT
#38794
On January 22 2013 03:20 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 03:19 Kipsate wrote:
Venomancer is underated against Naix although you do have a Venomancer on your team then.

Yet another example of how the metagame shifts. Not long ago veno was considered top pick material. Granted he was nerfed but it was a small one.


125 mana for a lvl 1 Gale is a huge nerf. :X You cant do gale twice at level 1.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 21 2013 18:55 GMT
#38795
On January 22 2013 03:51 AkalineMess wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 03:20 Firebolt145 wrote:
On January 22 2013 03:19 Kipsate wrote:
Venomancer is underated against Naix although you do have a Venomancer on your team then.

Yet another example of how the metagame shifts. Not long ago veno was considered top pick material. Granted he was nerfed but it was a small one.


125 mana for a lvl 1 Gale is a huge nerf. :X You cant do gale twice at level 1.

If you get 2 GG branches, you should be able to use it twice, I think. (234 + 13 + 13)
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 21 2013 18:57 GMT
#38796
On January 22 2013 03:55 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 03:51 AkalineMess wrote:
On January 22 2013 03:20 Firebolt145 wrote:
On January 22 2013 03:19 Kipsate wrote:
Venomancer is underated against Naix although you do have a Venomancer on your team then.

Yet another example of how the metagame shifts. Not long ago veno was considered top pick material. Granted he was nerfed but it was a small one.


125 mana for a lvl 1 Gale is a huge nerf. :X You cant do gale twice at level 1.

If you get 2 GG branches, you should be able to use it twice, I think. (234 + 13 + 13)


Gale has a long-ass cooldown anyways, so you might as well spend the 50g on clarities instead of a GG branches.

The mana-cost nerf was bigger than people give it credit for IMO.
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Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
January 21 2013 19:44 GMT
#38797
I was theory crafting at work and thought of trying Treant + AA in a lane together and it's pretty ridiculous. Treant with two str gauntlets, regen, branches is close to 800 hp and close to 100 base dmg. The reason I stick AA with him is for the 50 damage extra for three attacks and the slow. So with leech seed and 150 damage auto attacks from tree and 100 dmg auto attacks AA a kill is pretty easy to people who aren't expecting it (everyone!). Maybe tree and AA can be 2/3's of a trilane, too.

Went carry tree to try this with AA friend against a lich and slark. Lich was free kill any time he'd show up in lane.. rofl!!

Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 21 2013 19:50 GMT
#38798
Lich slark is rather horrible lane though so maybe try it out a few more times and let us know
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-21 20:00:48
January 21 2013 19:52 GMT
#38799
One wonders how Lich actually ends up in autoattack range of Treant unless he has no idea what Cold Feet does.

EDIT: And if he has no idea what Cold Feet does, then ranks in Cold Feet are going to do more than ranks in Chilling Touch, seeing as he's probably going to eat the stun every time.
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RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
January 21 2013 19:55 GMT
#38800
A lot of theory craft lanes sound really cool in theory but usually end up being fairly unimpressive. There's a reason that most go with the tried and true comboes like SD and leshrac, etc.
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