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On January 21 2013 08:11 Slardar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 08:10 Grettin wrote:
Few days ago i was watching Sing's stream, and i heard something about Kunkka and shadowblade. Basically if i understood right, the shadowblade effect doesn't apply the bonus dmg on cleave anymore? Is that true or did i just misheard or something. Correct it was patched....2 or 3 patches ago. That little bug has been fixed, same with the Bounty Hunter + Shadowblade trick. Better to just mass bfuries on Kunkka now...and never get one on Gondar. Gondar will come after your families pitiful pathetic bounties if you ever go Bfury on him.
I thought lothars was always a thing on Kunkka in or am I thinking of HoN?
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Batrider is all about using terrain to your advantage since you can fly over shit and people can't follow you.
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On January 21 2013 08:10 Grettin wrote:
Few days ago i was watching Sing's stream, and i heard something about Kunkka and shadowblade. Basically if i understood right, the shadowblade effect doesn't apply on cleave anymore? Is that true or did i just misheard or something.
Lothar's still applies on cleave.
What was fixed is that Lothar's invis-break hit cannot be multiplied by crit. In DotA 1, Lothar's invis-break was a form of crit, so you couldn't crit on the invis-break hit.
On January 21 2013 08:18 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 08:11 Slardar wrote:On January 21 2013 08:10 Grettin wrote:
Few days ago i was watching Sing's stream, and i heard something about Kunkka and shadowblade. Basically if i understood right, the shadowblade effect doesn't apply the bonus dmg on cleave anymore? Is that true or did i just misheard or something. Correct it was patched....2 or 3 patches ago. That little bug has been fixed, same with the Bounty Hunter + Shadowblade trick. Better to just mass bfuries on Kunkka now...and never get one on Gondar. Gondar will come after your families pitiful pathetic bounties if you ever go Bfury on him. I thought lothars was always a thing on Kunkka in or am I thinking of HoN?
Lothar's was always a thing on Kunkka.
It doesn't interact with Crit now on him, but individually they're both still good on him. It's just less appealing to have both now.
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On January 21 2013 08:12 Erasme wrote:
welp, its okay i guess, demon is streaming it :D
that was a game alright
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On January 21 2013 08:17 Mataza wrote:
Are Power Treads even the right boots on him? They´re the slowest of all the boots in the game, and while the hp are really good, the attack speed feels wasted.
Tranquils have been the go-to boots for Batrider for a LONG time now.
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Whats happening on Demons stream? They are playing a tournament or something?
On January 21 2013 08:24 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 08:10 Grettin wrote:
Few days ago i was watching Sing's stream, and i heard something about Kunkka and shadowblade. Basically if i understood right, the shadowblade effect doesn't apply on cleave anymore? Is that true or did i just misheard or something. Lothar's still applies on cleave. What was fixed is that Lothar's invis-break hit cannot be multiplied by crit. In DotA 1, Lothar's invis-break was a form of crit, so you couldn't crit on the invis-break hit. Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 08:18 Numy wrote:On January 21 2013 08:11 Slardar wrote:On January 21 2013 08:10 Grettin wrote:
Few days ago i was watching Sing's stream, and i heard something about Kunkka and shadowblade. Basically if i understood right, the shadowblade effect doesn't apply the bonus dmg on cleave anymore? Is that true or did i just misheard or something. Correct it was patched....2 or 3 patches ago. That little bug has been fixed, same with the Bounty Hunter + Shadowblade trick. Better to just mass bfuries on Kunkka now...and never get one on Gondar. Gondar will come after your families pitiful pathetic bounties if you ever go Bfury on him. I thought lothars was always a thing on Kunkka in or am I thinking of HoN? Lothar's was always a thing on Kunkka. It doesn't interact with Crit now on him, but individually they're both still good on him. It's just less appealing to have both now.
So let me ask, would you still get shadowblade then? Because Sing was basically saying that he wouldn't go for it anymore.
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On January 21 2013 08:24 Klonere wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 08:12 Erasme wrote:
welp, its okay i guess, demon is streaming it :D that was a game alright
FinestHours face when we picked skel king instead of naix 
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On January 21 2013 08:24 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 08:10 Grettin wrote:
Few days ago i was watching Sing's stream, and i heard something about Kunkka and shadowblade. Basically if i understood right, the shadowblade effect doesn't apply on cleave anymore? Is that true or did i just misheard or something. Lothar's still applies on cleave. What was fixed is that Lothar's invis-break hit cannot be multiplied by crit. In DotA 1, Lothar's invis-break was a form of crit, so you couldn't crit on the invis-break hit. Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 08:18 Numy wrote:On January 21 2013 08:11 Slardar wrote:On January 21 2013 08:10 Grettin wrote:
Few days ago i was watching Sing's stream, and i heard something about Kunkka and shadowblade. Basically if i understood right, the shadowblade effect doesn't apply the bonus dmg on cleave anymore? Is that true or did i just misheard or something. Correct it was patched....2 or 3 patches ago. That little bug has been fixed, same with the Bounty Hunter + Shadowblade trick. Better to just mass bfuries on Kunkka now...and never get one on Gondar. Gondar will come after your families pitiful pathetic bounties if you ever go Bfury on him. I thought lothars was always a thing on Kunkka in or am I thinking of HoN? Lothar's was always a thing on Kunkka. It doesn't interact with Crit now on him, but individually they're both still good on him. It's just less appealing to have both now.
Yea that's what I thought just never actually played kunkka in Dota 1, came out after I left and never played him when I played again 2 years ago. I still think Shadowblade is good on him situationally so don't think you should exclude it completely. If you going to man fight I see crit/bkb being better than a lothars but early on lothars most likely does more damage and lets you avoid manfighting.
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someone shoulda taken a picture of my expression when rabid last picked skk oh lord
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is it double elimination or you're out ?
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On January 21 2013 08:26 Grettin wrote:Whats happening on Demons stream? They are playing a tournament or something? Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 08:24 TheYango wrote:On January 21 2013 08:10 Grettin wrote:
Few days ago i was watching Sing's stream, and i heard something about Kunkka and shadowblade. Basically if i understood right, the shadowblade effect doesn't apply on cleave anymore? Is that true or did i just misheard or something. Lothar's still applies on cleave. What was fixed is that Lothar's invis-break hit cannot be multiplied by crit. In DotA 1, Lothar's invis-break was a form of crit, so you couldn't crit on the invis-break hit. On January 21 2013 08:18 Numy wrote:On January 21 2013 08:11 Slardar wrote:On January 21 2013 08:10 Grettin wrote:
Few days ago i was watching Sing's stream, and i heard something about Kunkka and shadowblade. Basically if i understood right, the shadowblade effect doesn't apply the bonus dmg on cleave anymore? Is that true or did i just misheard or something. Correct it was patched....2 or 3 patches ago. That little bug has been fixed, same with the Bounty Hunter + Shadowblade trick. Better to just mass bfuries on Kunkka now...and never get one on Gondar. Gondar will come after your families pitiful pathetic bounties if you ever go Bfury on him. I thought lothars was always a thing on Kunkka in or am I thinking of HoN? Lothar's was always a thing on Kunkka. It doesn't interact with Crit now on him, but individually they're both still good on him. It's just less appealing to have both now. So let me ask, would you still get shadowblade then? Because Sing was basically saying that he wouldn't go for it anymore.
I don't see why not. The same situations where you would go shadowblade before still apply now. Shadowblade crit wasn't guarantied like the bounty hunter case so the two together were more a lucky gimmick than anything else I feel. They were both good items on kunkka before they interacted like this so there's no reason why they aren't good items on him after
I assume what "Sing wouldn't go for" is rushing both to get a lucky 1 shot kill teamfight off a lothared crit
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On January 21 2013 08:38 Erasme wrote:
is it double elimination or you're out ?
double elim otherwise i wouldve picked naix lol
(we're going for 3rd place since fluff + blitz and casters are there)
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On January 21 2013 08:57 rabidch wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 08:38 Erasme wrote:
is it double elimination or you're out ? double elim otherwise i wouldve picked naix lol (we're going for 3rd place since fluff + blitz and casters are there)
Demon is streaming some wgf games right now. You should walk up behind his webcam and wave at the camera rabid 
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man bdiz sounds so out of place on eg, in between the extremely dry flame of fear and the conceited sarcasm of demon, he's like a fluffy bundle of joy.
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For bat I would say you want to either solo mid (ideal), solo long lane or jungle. Bat is very strong as a mid and should be able to beat almost anything.
As a mid you want to stack napalm on the creeps and enemy mid if able, or just the enemy mid if they stay close. If they stick around with 4 or more stacks you will hit them like a truck and should be able to kill them if they are to far from their tower. Just don't over commit with low health or let your stacks fall off while diving them. As long as they die first, dying is alright.
For jungle there is a nice vid on reddit that explains how to do it. In general you will be stacking a large camp while killing the small camp, then kill the stack, but practice it a few times before trying in a game, it can go bad fast if you don't know what you are doing.
For long lane it is like any other long lane, but you can firefly through the trees to get away from kill attempts all the way back to your tower.
For skills napalm is better for chasing and lane control, firefly is better for farming and sometimes ganking. I like 1 level in flamebreak as well.
Tranquils are my go-to boots, then bottle if mid and then blink. After that you can choose between tanking up (shivas, hood, vit booster), or more agressive items like sheep and force staff.
For team fights you either way to start it by grabbing someone who is out of position or wait a bit and get a high profile target and try to pull them to some impassable terrain if able. If things are going good you can help a ton catching runners with flamebreak and napalm. I wouldn't jump into a group of 5 enemies alone unless you have a force staff, your allies are already engaging or you are really tanky.
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On January 21 2013 10:36 Firebolt145 wrote:
did tube play storm
tube wasn't a part of their team this time.
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On January 21 2013 09:29 Klonere wrote:
man bdiz sounds so out of place on eg, in between the extremely dry flame of fear and the conceited sarcasm of demon, he's like a fluffy bundle of joy.
he's also not very good
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