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duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
January 20 2013 19:08 GMT
#38601
iG stomped every single team they played at G-League.
Batrider + Panda blink at 15 minutes = proceeded to win the game in less than 25 minutes.

I too miss Morphling days and was the first one bitching about Morph in every single goddamn game at The International. Although I would like to see Morph, Lycan and "Naga" comeback.
"I really like Marauders and Marines." - Flash
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
January 20 2013 19:13 GMT
#38602
no lycan can go fuck himself. naga maybe.

lycan was no fun for anyone
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 20 2013 19:14 GMT
#38603
Lycan saw some play by LGD Int very effectivly. I like an occasional lycan pick.
WriterXiao8~~
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 19:21:28
January 20 2013 19:17 GMT
#38604
Lycan is a decent hero to pick-up if your team is running more of a push-strat and you're in need of a safe lane solo. (usually when druid gets banned out). He's not really ran as a jungler anymore.
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
January 20 2013 19:21 GMT
#38605
oh god please dont buff morphling. Dont feel like trying to kill an immortal carry again
리노크 👑
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 19:23:20
January 20 2013 19:21 GMT
#38606
If they were to buff morphlings damage output in some way, strength morph would have to get nerfed a bit to compensate, lol.
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
January 20 2013 19:26 GMT
#38607
Morph really just needs a very slight damage buff to his auto attack damage. When he has full items and full agi morph he doesn't hit near as hard as another carry would.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
January 20 2013 19:30 GMT
#38608
morph is fine. hes just not godly like before.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
January 20 2013 19:37 GMT
#38609
Same with lycan, his jungling was gimped but he's still good at what he does outside of jungling. He's just much more of a situational pick-up now.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 19:46:34
January 20 2013 19:38 GMT
#38610
On January 21 2013 04:30 aintz wrote:
morph is fine. hes just not godly like before.

He's okay at best. Otherwise, he really needs a buff. Autoattack damage would be okay, waveform attack back would preferable.

Edit: Lycan is actually undervalued - he's risky to run in jungle (but doable), but he definitely can be run on a free farm lane for a RIDICULOUS push strat around 15-20 mins. Might not be worth picking up vlads anymore, not sure about his new item build - probably still rushing a necro, but maybe fighting BKB. Have to think about it a little.
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
January 20 2013 19:39 GMT
#38611
On January 21 2013 04:26 Esoterikk wrote:
Morph really just needs a very slight damage buff to his auto attack damage. When he has full items and full agi morph he doesn't hit near as hard as another carry would.

That's because he has 2 nearly instant escape mechanisms, a nuke that scales with items and 60 (not sure) hp regen per second. If he righclicked as hard as other hard carries, it would be waaay absurd.
super gg
CustomKal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada749 Posts
January 20 2013 19:45 GMT
#38612
On January 21 2013 04:38 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 04:30 aintz wrote:
morph is fine. hes just not godly like before.

He's okay at best. Otherwise, he really needs a buff. Autoattack damage would be okay, waveform attack back would preferable.

Edit: Lycan is actually undervalued - he's risky to run in jungle (but doable), but he definitely can be run on a free farm lane for a RIDICULOUS push strat around 15-20 mins. Might not be worth picking up vlads anymore, not sure about his new item build.


Vlads is worth it more than ever now. The lifesteal on them is more effective in terms of the % of their life they leach back. The damage is still great, the armor allows the wolves to not die in 1 shot, and due to the magic resistance, the lifesteal is also once again better, since it heals more of that magic damage than it would have before.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
January 20 2013 19:51 GMT
#38613
On January 21 2013 04:38 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 04:30 aintz wrote:
morph is fine. hes just not godly like before.

He's okay at best. Otherwise, he really needs a buff. Autoattack damage would be okay, waveform attack back would preferable.

I'm fine with 'okay'

buff invoker pls
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
January 20 2013 19:57 GMT
#38614
On January 21 2013 04:51 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 04:38 Comeh wrote:
On January 21 2013 04:30 aintz wrote:
morph is fine. hes just not godly like before.

He's okay at best. Otherwise, he really needs a buff. Autoattack damage would be okay, waveform attack back would preferable.

I'm fine with 'okay'

buff invoker pls

invoker's okay
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
January 20 2013 19:58 GMT
#38615
Had a decent Slardar game where I was doing -37 armor with each target.

Medallion, Desolator, Cuirass.
Imbajoe
Profile Joined September 2010
United States857 Posts
January 20 2013 19:59 GMT
#38616
Is there a cap on negative armor bonus damage?
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
January 20 2013 20:01 GMT
#38617
On January 21 2013 04:59 Imbajoe wrote:
Is there a cap on negative armor bonus damage?

The cap is at -20 negative armor, which is 80% bonus damage
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trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 20:04:21
January 20 2013 20:01 GMT
#38618
On January 21 2013 04:59 Imbajoe wrote:
Is there a cap on negative armor bonus damage?


I thought there was. It shows -37 though. But I'm not sure if it actually deals that damage.

EDIT: yeah -20 armor (71% dmg increase) is max from dota2wiki. Though -37 armor ensures that even extra armor on enemies is nothing.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
January 20 2013 20:39 GMT
#38619
On January 21 2013 04:08 duoform wrote:
iG stomped every single team they played at G-League.
Batrider + Panda blink at 15 minutes = proceeded to win the game in less than 25 minutes.

I too miss Morphling days and was the first one bitching about Morph in every single goddamn game at The International. Although I would like to see Morph, Lycan and "Naga" comeback.


Yeah I hope morph comes back.
I absolutely LOVED TI2 morph carries!
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
January 20 2013 20:49 GMT
#38620
Biggest problem with morph since the nerf, imo, is that his laning phase is EXTREMELY shit now
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