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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
January 20 2013 17:44 GMT
#38581
i dont miss TA. I like luna cuz it usually means a fast paced game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
January 20 2013 17:50 GMT
#38582
You actually see WR mid far more often then TA now :p
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
January 20 2013 17:50 GMT
#38583
On January 21 2013 02:39 DoNotDisturb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 02:33 Enzymatic wrote:
and Sven line-ups ran rampant.


You want to see teams stacking ancients for 20 years then smoke ganking each other's ancients again...?

an exaggeration, but still

also pls revert Invoker's base damage nerf


you have like 50 damage with plus 4 stats plus exort on lvl 1. what more do you want
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 17:57:56
January 20 2013 17:57 GMT
#38584
On January 21 2013 02:50 Erandorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 02:39 DoNotDisturb wrote:
On January 21 2013 02:33 Enzymatic wrote:
and Sven line-ups ran rampant.


You want to see teams stacking ancients for 20 years then smoke ganking each other's ancients again...?

an exaggeration, but still

also pls revert Invoker's base damage nerf


you have like 50 damage with plus 4 stats plus exort on lvl 1. what more do you want

4 more damage, obviously.

Oh and while Icefrog's at it, please revert force staff and drum damage nerfs ~
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Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 17:59:00
January 20 2013 17:57 GMT
#38585
On January 21 2013 02:50 Erandorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 02:39 DoNotDisturb wrote:
On January 21 2013 02:33 Enzymatic wrote:
and Sven line-ups ran rampant.


You want to see teams stacking ancients for 20 years then smoke ganking each other's ancients again...?

an exaggeration, but still

also pls revert Invoker's base damage nerf


you have like 50 damage with plus 4 stats plus exort on lvl 1. what more do you want


The thing is.. The base damage nerf was a huge nerf to the Quas/Wex spec.. Now its barely ever seen. Trying to last hit/deny mid with Wex spec is like being a Lina mid. Now Invokers are pretty much pigeonholed into going Exort in order to have decent CS / deny at mid.
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
January 20 2013 17:58 GMT
#38586
On January 21 2013 02:57 Enzymatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 02:50 Erandorr wrote:
On January 21 2013 02:39 DoNotDisturb wrote:
On January 21 2013 02:33 Enzymatic wrote:
and Sven line-ups ran rampant.


You want to see teams stacking ancients for 20 years then smoke ganking each other's ancients again...?

an exaggeration, but still

also pls revert Invoker's base damage nerf


you have like 50 damage with plus 4 stats plus exort on lvl 1. what more do you want


The thing is.. The base damage nerf was a huge nerf to the Quas/Wex spec.. Now its barely ever seen. Trying to last hit mid with Wex spec is like having a Lina mid.

With lina at least you can last hit with your nukes, push out the lane with them and go get runes.

Good luck doing that with invoker ~
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Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 18:06:38
January 20 2013 18:05 GMT
#38587
It definitely sucks to see puck being picked nowadays and invoker pretty much never being picked. Not that I don't like seeing puck picked up.. Its just a sad sad time when puck is way more popular than invo.

Invoker has always been one of the more exciting mid heroes to watch in competitive games.
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 18:11:55
January 20 2013 18:07 GMT
#38588
On January 21 2013 03:05 Enzymatic wrote:
It definitely sucks to see puck being picked nowadays and invoker pretty much never being picked. Not that I don't like seeing puck picked up.. Its just a sad sad time when puck is way more popular than invo.

Invoker has always been one of the more exciting mid heroes to watch in competitive games.

Puck is way more stylish than invoker.

EDIT: only puck can you picture samuel L jackson doing pucks voice.

"stay and amuse me"

"in your tongue i'm known as PUCK"
"here i am, bitch"

ect ect.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 18:12:27
January 20 2013 18:11 GMT
#38589
I dont think it sucks to see puck being picked. sad to see how hard the nerfs have affected invoker though.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
January 20 2013 18:21 GMT
#38590
saw purge, brax, fluffnstuff already
demon maybe coming later and blitz i think
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 20 2013 18:23 GMT
#38591
I enjoy Puck, Scandal and Dendi play it really nicely.
WriterXiao8~~
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
January 20 2013 18:25 GMT
#38592
On January 21 2013 03:05 Enzymatic wrote:
It definitely sucks to see puck being picked nowadays and invoker pretty much never being picked. Not that I don't like seeing puck picked up.. Its just a sad sad time when puck is way more popular than invo.

Invoker has always been one of the more exciting mid heroes to watch in competitive games.


No invoker in comp games makes me sad He's such an iconic hero that is pretty exciting to watch. Even when it was with old EMP Tornado bullshittery it was fun to watch him to a certain extent.

also i swear to god Dota fans are have the shortest memory ever. the luna/ld/naix meta hasn't been around THAT long and it isn't THAT bad to watch. when I see people say they miss old Morph vs AM meta I just facepalm.

that said I watched sc2 for two years so my standards are kinda low I suppose
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 18:58:08
January 20 2013 18:38 GMT
#38593
Puck has always been one of the favourite heroes in western dota :3 flashy play and showing off pro skillz etc.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
January 20 2013 18:43 GMT
#38594
We need more Shadow Fiend pickup. One of the main reason I really enjoyed G-League (that and sick level play obviously)
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 20 2013 18:45 GMT
#38595
On January 21 2013 03:38 BurningSera wrote:
Puck has always been a favourite heroes in western dota :3 flashy play and showing off pro skillz etc.

Its also a top pick in pinoy dota :D (and dagon every game)
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AkalineMess
Profile Joined December 2012
249 Posts
January 20 2013 18:46 GMT
#38596
Killing Puck is like chasing after a hot girl. Sometimes, you spent all your money/mana and got lucky enough to get in bed with her. Most of the time, she will just take all your money, break your heart, and then kill you.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 20 2013 18:47 GMT
#38597
On January 21 2013 03:25 Klonere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 03:05 Enzymatic wrote:
It definitely sucks to see puck being picked nowadays and invoker pretty much never being picked. Not that I don't like seeing puck picked up.. Its just a sad sad time when puck is way more popular than invo.

Invoker has always been one of the more exciting mid heroes to watch in competitive games.


No invoker in comp games makes me sad He's such an iconic hero that is pretty exciting to watch. Even when it was with old EMP Tornado bullshittery it was fun to watch him to a certain extent.

also i swear to god Dota fans are have the shortest memory ever. the luna/ld/naix meta hasn't been around THAT long and it isn't THAT bad to watch. when I see people say they miss old Morph vs AM meta I just facepalm.

that said I watched sc2 for two years so my standards are kinda low I suppose

I miss the morph days...

Also AM is still a huge pickup in China (top pick / ban in gleague, we'll see how long that goes)

Naix is...kind of boring sometimes. I DO think he is overvalued atm though.
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Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
January 20 2013 18:49 GMT
#38598
I do miss morph , she wasn't even popular for that long it was just like TI2 then suddenly hit the nerf bat.

On January 21 2013 03:45 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 03:38 BurningSera wrote:
Puck has always been a favourite heroes in western dota :3 flashy play and showing off pro skillz etc.

Its also a top pick in pinoy dota :D (and dagon every game)

love pinoy doto. Shadow blade DK <3.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 18:53:01
January 20 2013 18:51 GMT
#38599
Honestly the "metagame" only really comes out of teams following the success of stronger teams. Remember when iG started playing facerush teams right at the start of 6.75, and EVERYONE started doing it as if it was the best strategy of that version? That fell off entirely when they lost at G-1 finals, and Magnus/Luna started to really take over as common picks. It clearly wasn't the "best" strategy of 6.75, but everyone assumed it was because iG did it, so it must be good.

By nature teams are just going to emulate what better/more successful teams do, which is what makes things look boring. This is especially true because there are no tournaments in China right now due to the holiday so no one has anything new to follow.

The onus is on teams to discover something that works, and they will eventually. It just takes time, and it's somewhat random/a team has to get lucky to find something new.
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 19:02:18
January 20 2013 19:00 GMT
#38600
iG needs to do dual mid again and start to pick heroes like wl, zeus and orge.

'omg multicast so imba!!!'

On January 21 2013 03:46 AkalineMess wrote:
Killing Puck is like chasing after a hot girl. Sometimes, you spent all your money/mana and got lucky enough to get in bed with her. Most of the time, she will just take all your money, break your heart, and then kill you.


Dendi played some mean girl i mean puck.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
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