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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
January 19 2013 10:51 GMT
#38381
I like medallion on weaver to cover shukuchi if i'm not running bottle.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
StoRm_res
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland891 Posts
January 19 2013 10:54 GMT
#38382
So what do you guys think about rushing radi on weaver?
Olsson
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden931 Posts
January 19 2013 10:54 GMT
#38383
What are all the russians doing on Eu West? There's Eu east for ukrainians and then Russia server for Russians, but they chose to play on Eu West because they hope to skip playing with their own russians I suppose. Can't they region lock the russians to Russia because they've ruined all of my games recently. Not saying all suck but many of them do and none, NONE of them speak english.
Naniwa <3
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
January 19 2013 10:55 GMT
#38384
On January 19 2013 19:54 Olsson wrote:
What are all the russians doing on Eu West? There's Eu east for ukrainians and then Russia server for Russians, but they chose to play on Eu West because they hope to skip playing with their own russians I suppose. Can't they region lock the russians to Russia because they've ruined all of my games recently. Not saying all suck but many of them do and none, NONE of them speak english.


They play on all three servers as they get a faster queue time.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-19 10:56:22
January 19 2013 10:55 GMT
#38385
On January 19 2013 19:54 Olsson wrote:
What are all the russians doing on Eu West? There's Eu east for ukrainians and then Russia server for Russians, but they chose to play on Eu West because they hope to skip playing with their own russians I suppose. Can't they region lock the russians to Russia because they've ruined all of my games recently. Not saying all suck but many of them do and none, NONE of them speak english.

You're looking for the QQ thread.

Also IF you can get a quick radiance on weaver it's great, it synergizes well with what he is good at. Radiance on weaver is gud.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 19 2013 10:58 GMT
#38386
On January 19 2013 19:54 StoRm_res wrote:
So what do you guys think about rushing radi on weaver?

Depends on what your gameplan/position is in the game.
WriterXiao8~~
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-19 11:19:09
January 19 2013 11:16 GMT
#38387
Anyone have the link to the youtube video of hotbid yelling shadowbat
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
January 19 2013 11:21 GMT
#38388
I've met many Russians that speak English just fine in matchmaking. Sometimes not being a piece of shit to them helps.
super gg
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
January 19 2013 11:29 GMT
#38389
Has anyone ever got this bug where CKs horse disappears and only thing that's left is the particle effect of his tail.
When you move it looks like CK is hovering by farting constantly.Hilarious.
+ Show Spoiler +
yes,I'm immature
Cackle™
Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
January 19 2013 11:32 GMT
#38390
It's not like being russian overrides MMR. Besides, the chat wheel translates to the client's language.
ControlMonkey
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia3109 Posts
January 19 2013 11:41 GMT
#38391
I used to get no horse kotl all the time.
SirMilford
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1269 Posts
January 19 2013 11:43 GMT
#38392
On January 19 2013 19:55 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 19:54 Olsson wrote:
What are all the russians doing on Eu West? There's Eu east for ukrainians and then Russia server for Russians, but they chose to play on Eu West because they hope to skip playing with their own russians I suppose. Can't they region lock the russians to Russia because they've ruined all of my games recently. Not saying all suck but many of them do and none, NONE of them speak english.

You're looking for the QQ thread.

Also IF you can get a quick radiance on weaver it's great, it synergizes well with what he is good at. Radiance on weaver is gud.

Ye i agree with the weaver part. Although this forum loves its medallion etc weaver build. I still think radiance is to strong on weaver and is much better in most stages of the game than medallion/mkb
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 19 2013 11:44 GMT
#38393
They don't serve the same purpose.
WriterXiao8~~
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
January 19 2013 11:45 GMT
#38394
On January 19 2013 18:20 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Linkens is a pretty trash item on everyone except like storm. I think it's pretty bad on QoP too compared to what you could get.


it's good against heroes who have single target disables that go through BKB - BM, Bat, Bane

Also gives you time to react if they cancel it with something else unless they have a sheepstick
ffxiv enjoyer
SirMilford
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1269 Posts
January 19 2013 11:46 GMT
#38395
On January 19 2013 20:43 SirMilford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 19:55 Unleashing wrote:
On January 19 2013 19:54 Olsson wrote:
What are all the russians doing on Eu West? There's Eu east for ukrainians and then Russia server for Russians, but they chose to play on Eu West because they hope to skip playing with their own russians I suppose. Can't they region lock the russians to Russia because they've ruined all of my games recently. Not saying all suck but many of them do and none, NONE of them speak english.

You're looking for the QQ thread.

Also IF you can get a quick radiance on weaver it's great, it synergizes well with what he is good at. Radiance on weaver is gud.

Ye i agree with the weaver part. Although this forum loves its medallion etc weaver build. I still think radiance is to strong on weaver and is much better in most stages of the game than medallion/mkb


Which is?
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-19 11:51:31
January 19 2013 11:47 GMT
#38396
Weaver is really hard to kill if you play him super defensively in teamfights. I've had a lot of success with something like mkb/bkb using tanq/aquila for regen. Manta also works great. Thing is I find weaver to work best when he isn't the primary damage source but merely another option for damage. He has great split push if you have decent ward coverage and map awareness and his range plus escape allows him be get away with not building too tanky in teamfights if you play it well enough.

Radiance build is more for if you ARE the primary damage source with everyone creating space for you. That also means you have to build far more survivability since you are the number one threat

On January 19 2013 20:46 SirMilford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 20:43 SirMilford wrote:
On January 19 2013 19:55 Unleashing wrote:
On January 19 2013 19:54 Olsson wrote:
What are all the russians doing on Eu West? There's Eu east for ukrainians and then Russia server for Russians, but they chose to play on Eu West because they hope to skip playing with their own russians I suppose. Can't they region lock the russians to Russia because they've ruined all of my games recently. Not saying all suck but many of them do and none, NONE of them speak english.

You're looking for the QQ thread.

Also IF you can get a quick radiance on weaver it's great, it synergizes well with what he is good at. Radiance on weaver is gud.

Ye i agree with the weaver part. Although this forum loves its medallion etc weaver build. I still think radiance is to strong on weaver and is much better in most stages of the game than medallion/mkb


Which is?


I think you misquoted. Anyway radiance primary purpose is to farm with. It's not really a fighting build where as the primary purpose of going stuff like med/mkb fast is to fight. Two different ideas hence comparing the two without talking about these different purposes doesn't do it justice. Most people here don't believe weaver is a good late game carry but instead better mid game by going fighting builds hence why radiance isn't always the suggest option nor thought of that highly. Same with linkens being rather bad since it doesn't give you any extra fighting ability until it's completed and even then you have to wait until you get some source of damage before you can fight.
SirMilford
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1269 Posts
January 19 2013 11:50 GMT
#38397
On January 19 2013 20:47 Numy wrote:
Weaver is really hard to kill if you play him super defensively in teamfights. I've had a lot of success with something like mkb/bkb using tanq/aquila for regen. Manta also works great. Thing is I find weaver to work best when he isn't the primary damage source but merely another option for damage. He has great split push if you have decent ward coverage and map awareness and his range plus escape allows him be get away with not building too tanky in teamfights if you play it well enough.

Radiance build is more for if you ARE the primary damage source with everyone creating space for you. That also means you have to build far more survivability since you are the number one threat

I would argue the other way round, if he is the secondary source he would build raidance. primary go tanky with manta/mkb/deso etc.

This is because radiance just leads to split push and support sniping weaver rather than fight main carry 1v1 weaver.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 19 2013 11:52 GMT
#38398
On January 19 2013 20:50 SirMilford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 20:47 Numy wrote:
Weaver is really hard to kill if you play him super defensively in teamfights. I've had a lot of success with something like mkb/bkb using tanq/aquila for regen. Manta also works great. Thing is I find weaver to work best when he isn't the primary damage source but merely another option for damage. He has great split push if you have decent ward coverage and map awareness and his range plus escape allows him be get away with not building too tanky in teamfights if you play it well enough.

Radiance build is more for if you ARE the primary damage source with everyone creating space for you. That also means you have to build far more survivability since you are the number one threat

I would argue the other way round, if he is the secondary source he would build raidance. primary go tanky with manta/mkb/deso etc.

This is because radiance just leads to split push and support sniping weaver rather than fight main carry 1v1 weaver.


Again you can't fight with radiance. It's for farming. If you aren't going to get most of the farm and most of the space given to you to farm it doesn't make sense to go for a farming item.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 19 2013 11:53 GMT
#38399
Radiance is a farming item, it has an absolute terrible buildup. Medallion is an item to contribute early to midgame, it is cheap and can be build with other items. A Radiance Weaver can not fight early to midgame, a medallion/drums/aquilla Weaver can.
MKB is neither a midgame nor a farming item, it is gotten when Weaver has its basic items up and needs damage.
WriterXiao8~~
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
January 19 2013 12:33 GMT
#38400
Medallion is my standard build for hardlane weaver. Item is too good.

Radi is practical if you are a carry weaver on safelane or if you do solo lane somehow you can get kills in early and able to make Radi before 20-25min.

Really depends on the game and how do you wanna play weaver. I prefer battle weaver more with drum/medal etc to actively help in teamfight and then mkb. Linken is good if you had nice farm as a solo (hardlane/mid) and oppo have alot single target disable.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
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