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igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
January 19 2013 03:37 GMT
#38361
i played with someone who did that. Take a hero that takes a long time to get useful, and make him take even longer.
Cool Cat
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1644 Posts
January 19 2013 03:48 GMT
#38362
somebody did that in one of my games the day medusa came out.
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
January 19 2013 03:49 GMT
#38363
Anyone else notice they changed Spectres weapon? It's not a razor sharp hula hoop anymore.... ;(
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
January 19 2013 03:58 GMT
#38364
On January 19 2013 12:49 SupLilSon wrote:
Anyone else notice they changed Spectres weapon? It's not a razor sharp hula hoop anymore.... ;(


the usual unnecessary changes as always
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 19 2013 03:59 GMT
#38365
On January 19 2013 12:49 SupLilSon wrote:
Anyone else notice they changed Spectres weapon? It's not a razor sharp hula hoop anymore.... ;(

Yeah it was a few patches ago
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ControlMonkey
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia3109 Posts
January 19 2013 06:30 GMT
#38366
On January 19 2013 12:36 PassiveAce wrote:
ice3 was doing that on stream nonstop when medusa came out. it didnt actually work out that well most games for him.


Medusa doesn't work out well for most games no matter what you do.
SirMilford
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1269 Posts
January 19 2013 08:33 GMT
#38367
Anyone know when NB gets unbanned? Also my favourite thing to do is go their and clear the trees away if you see someone doing it. You can always be dewarded but 1 lina stun screws the whole thing up
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
January 19 2013 08:35 GMT
#38368
On January 19 2013 15:30 ControlMonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 12:36 PassiveAce wrote:
ice3 was doing that on stream nonstop when medusa came out. it didnt actually work out that well most games for him.


Medusa doesn't work out well for most games no matter what you do.

Almost all of my games against Medusa are wins, and almost all of my games with a Mesusa on my team are losses

Clearly not a good hero, or at least just not played correctly.
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toemn
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany915 Posts
January 19 2013 08:48 GMT
#38369
i found a new auto-win hero in pubs. comes right after ta. -> weaver.

it is literally impossible to gank you if you have decent map awareness, which means you can play him as a pusher and farmer to make space for your other carrie(s). usually i'm not even winning my midlane but still come out ahead when i get a 15-20min linkens or mkb/daedalus.
also you can do amazing plays when using your ultimate right.

love this hero. 1150xpm/800gpm last game
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-19 09:03:00
January 19 2013 09:00 GMT
#38370
On January 19 2013 17:48 toemn wrote:
i found a new auto-win hero in pubs. comes right after ta. -> weaver.

it is literally impossible to gank you if you have decent map awareness, which means you can play him as a pusher and farmer to make space for your other carrie(s). usually i'm not even winning my midlane but still come out ahead when i get a 15-20min linkens or mkb/daedalus.
also you can do amazing plays when using your ultimate right.

love this hero. 1150xpm/800gpm last game

Please don't get Linken's on Weaver. Absolutely trash item for him. The regen is overkill because Bottle/Aquila/Urn in some combination covers Shukuchi usage. And the long period of time where you have absolutely no combat stats because you got RoH/Void/Perseverance wastes one of Weaver's strengths which is the strong midgame teamfight power of his spells.

Have no idea why Linken's is on Weaver's recommended items.
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
January 19 2013 09:20 GMT
#38371
Linkens is a pretty trash item on everyone except like storm. I think it's pretty bad on QoP too compared to what you could get.
Sickkiee
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Japan607 Posts
January 19 2013 09:21 GMT
#38372
On January 19 2013 18:00 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 17:48 toemn wrote:
i found a new auto-win hero in pubs. comes right after ta. -> weaver.

it is literally impossible to gank you if you have decent map awareness, which means you can play him as a pusher and farmer to make space for your other carrie(s). usually i'm not even winning my midlane but still come out ahead when i get a 15-20min linkens or mkb/daedalus.
also you can do amazing plays when using your ultimate right.

love this hero. 1150xpm/800gpm last game

Please don't get Linken's on Weaver. Absolutely trash item for him. The regen is overkill because Bottle/Aquila/Urn in some combination covers Shukuchi usage. And the long period of time where you have absolutely no combat stats because you got RoH/Void/Perseverance wastes one of Weaver's strengths which is the strong midgame teamfight power of his spells.

Have no idea why Linken's is on Weaver's recommended items.


Most heroes recommended items are retarded lol.
Lifes too short to be small.
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
January 19 2013 09:22 GMT
#38373
I think Linkens is recommended because it makes you basically unkillable, but I agree that in a pub game it's really a bad idea to sacrifice your midgame strength (because you're not a real late game carry and you won't be able to farm enough to have linkens+damage item quick enough to have a big impact).

On another note, warlock ulti with aghanim/refresher looks hilarious :D (and is pretty damn effective)
Bayyne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1967 Posts
January 19 2013 09:31 GMT
#38374
Late Friday night solo queue is quite possible the worst thing you can do if you would still like to hold hope for man kind's intelligence.
Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 19 2013 09:35 GMT
#38375
On January 19 2013 18:22 Jetaap wrote:
I think Linkens is recommended because it makes you basically unkillable, but I agree that in a pub game it's really a bad idea to sacrifice your midgame strength (because you're not a real late game carry and you won't be able to farm enough to have linkens+damage item quick enough to have a big impact).

On another note, warlock ulti with aghanim/refresher looks hilarious :D (and is pretty damn effective)

Until they fix the bug where magic immunity/purges removes dust in DotA 2, BKB does more to make you unkillable than Linken's.
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coolcrimefighter
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States378 Posts
January 19 2013 09:55 GMT
#38376
On January 19 2013 17:35 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 15:30 ControlMonkey wrote:
On January 19 2013 12:36 PassiveAce wrote:
ice3 was doing that on stream nonstop when medusa came out. it didnt actually work out that well most games for him.


Medusa doesn't work out well for most games no matter what you do.

Almost all of my games against Medusa are wins, and almost all of my games with a Mesusa on my team are losses

Clearly not a good hero, or at least just not played correctly.

you probably don't play with dead9 enough.I heard that guy has 100% winrate with medusa. I am a mathematics major so I can confirm that 100% is a very high winrate.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
January 19 2013 10:32 GMT
#38377
On January 19 2013 18:55 coolcrimefighter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 17:35 TheEmulator wrote:
On January 19 2013 15:30 ControlMonkey wrote:
On January 19 2013 12:36 PassiveAce wrote:
ice3 was doing that on stream nonstop when medusa came out. it didnt actually work out that well most games for him.


Medusa doesn't work out well for most games no matter what you do.

Almost all of my games against Medusa are wins, and almost all of my games with a Mesusa on my team are losses

Clearly not a good hero, or at least just not played correctly.

you probably don't play with dead9 enough.I heard that guy has 100% winrate with medusa. I am a mathematics major so I can confirm that 100% is a very high winrate.

i am a professional detective and i can confirm that he does have 100% winrate with medusa
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
January 19 2013 10:38 GMT
#38378
I'm a professional stat master and I also have 100% winrate with medusa. 0/0 , the amount of games I played as her equals the amount of games I won as her, therefore I have 100% winrate
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
January 19 2013 10:40 GMT
#38379
On January 19 2013 18:00 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 17:48 toemn wrote:
i found a new auto-win hero in pubs. comes right after ta. -> weaver.

it is literally impossible to gank you if you have decent map awareness, which means you can play him as a pusher and farmer to make space for your other carrie(s). usually i'm not even winning my midlane but still come out ahead when i get a 15-20min linkens or mkb/daedalus.
also you can do amazing plays when using your ultimate right.

love this hero. 1150xpm/800gpm last game

Please don't get Linken's on Weaver. Absolutely trash item for him. The regen is overkill because Bottle/Aquila/Urn in some combination covers Shukuchi usage. And the long period of time where you have absolutely no combat stats because you got RoH/Void/Perseverance wastes one of Weaver's strengths which is the strong midgame teamfight power of his spells.

Have no idea why Linken's is on Weaver's recommended items.

Because pubs don't push opportunistically enough to punish someone for getting a defensive tier 4 item first.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-19 10:42:46
January 19 2013 10:42 GMT
#38380
On January 19 2013 19:40 igotmyown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 18:00 TheYango wrote:
On January 19 2013 17:48 toemn wrote:
i found a new auto-win hero in pubs. comes right after ta. -> weaver.

it is literally impossible to gank you if you have decent map awareness, which means you can play him as a pusher and farmer to make space for your other carrie(s). usually i'm not even winning my midlane but still come out ahead when i get a 15-20min linkens or mkb/daedalus.
also you can do amazing plays when using your ultimate right.

love this hero. 1150xpm/800gpm last game

Please don't get Linken's on Weaver. Absolutely trash item for him. The regen is overkill because Bottle/Aquila/Urn in some combination covers Shukuchi usage. And the long period of time where you have absolutely no combat stats because you got RoH/Void/Perseverance wastes one of Weaver's strengths which is the strong midgame teamfight power of his spells.

Have no idea why Linken's is on Weaver's recommended items.

Because pubs don't push opportunistically enough to punish someone for getting a defensive tier 4 item first.

The onus isn't on them to punish you though because Weaver isn't a strong lategame carry. The onus is on you to find opportunities to participate in midgame teamfights and snowball the game, and good luck doing that with a Perseverance rather than items with real fighting stats.
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