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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
January 18 2013 16:07 GMT
#38281
On January 19 2013 00:27 PassiveAce wrote:
I think the purpose is to be able to practice heroes your bad with, like i am something like 5 and 12 with lion for some reason and I can play him in least played.


But then why dont they give us AR? This least win mode will even screw over the mmr more than AR mode. I am really really baffled by the decision of valve on this.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
January 18 2013 16:08 GMT
#38282
On January 19 2013 01:07 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 00:27 PassiveAce wrote:
I think the purpose is to be able to practice heroes your bad with, like i am something like 5 and 12 with lion for some reason and I can play him in least played.


But then why dont they give us AR? This least win mode will even screw over the mmr more than AR mode. I am really really baffled by the decision of valve on this.


TBH, there should be different MMR levels on every mode.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
January 18 2013 16:08 GMT
#38283
On January 19 2013 01:08 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 01:07 BurningSera wrote:
On January 19 2013 00:27 PassiveAce wrote:
I think the purpose is to be able to practice heroes your bad with, like i am something like 5 and 12 with lion for some reason and I can play him in least played.


But then why dont they give us AR? This least win mode will even screw over the mmr more than AR mode. I am really really baffled by the decision of valve on this.


TBH, there should be different MMR levels on every mode.


and different mmr for solo queue and stack queue too.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
January 18 2013 16:13 GMT
#38284
They should really just implement ez mode.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
January 18 2013 16:23 GMT
#38285
On January 19 2013 01:08 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 01:08 trinxified wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:07 BurningSera wrote:
On January 19 2013 00:27 PassiveAce wrote:
I think the purpose is to be able to practice heroes your bad with, like i am something like 5 and 12 with lion for some reason and I can play him in least played.


But then why dont they give us AR? This least win mode will even screw over the mmr more than AR mode. I am really really baffled by the decision of valve on this.


TBH, there should be different MMR levels on every mode.


and different mmr for solo queue and stack queue too.


Well I don't think different MMR for solo and stack should be different.

I do however think the match making should be on the same level. Meaning if you're solo queuing, you should be playing against 9 solo queuers as well or be the odd one out in a 4-stacked team, same goes for the other side. If you're in a 5-stack, play with either another 5-stack or a combination of 3-stack+ 2-stack.
Nub4ever
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1981 Posts
January 18 2013 16:27 GMT
#38286
On January 19 2013 01:23 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 01:08 BurningSera wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:08 trinxified wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:07 BurningSera wrote:
On January 19 2013 00:27 PassiveAce wrote:
I think the purpose is to be able to practice heroes your bad with, like i am something like 5 and 12 with lion for some reason and I can play him in least played.


But then why dont they give us AR? This least win mode will even screw over the mmr more than AR mode. I am really really baffled by the decision of valve on this.


TBH, there should be different MMR levels on every mode.


and different mmr for solo queue and stack queue too.


Well I don't think different MMR for solo and stack should be different.

I do however think the match making should be on the same level. Meaning if you're solo queuing, you should be playing against 9 solo queuers as well or be the odd one out in a 4-stacked team, same goes for the other side. If you're in a 5-stack, play with either another 5-stack or a combination of 3-stack+ 2-stack.

From my experience it does this to some degree. Until the range goes to max most of time you only play stack vs stack when you stack as 5.
Dota 3hard5me
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
January 18 2013 16:38 GMT
#38287
On January 19 2013 01:08 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 01:08 trinxified wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:07 BurningSera wrote:
On January 19 2013 00:27 PassiveAce wrote:
I think the purpose is to be able to practice heroes your bad with, like i am something like 5 and 12 with lion for some reason and I can play him in least played.


But then why dont they give us AR? This least win mode will even screw over the mmr more than AR mode. I am really really baffled by the decision of valve on this.


TBH, there should be different MMR levels on every mode.


and different mmr for solo queue and stack queue too.

That would make stacking with players of vastly different skill levels so much more enjoyable gameplay-wise, would be a great addition imo.

Different mmr levels for different gamemodes is silly and I don't see any reason for that.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
January 18 2013 16:48 GMT
#38288
On January 19 2013 01:23 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 01:08 BurningSera wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:08 trinxified wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:07 BurningSera wrote:
On January 19 2013 00:27 PassiveAce wrote:
I think the purpose is to be able to practice heroes your bad with, like i am something like 5 and 12 with lion for some reason and I can play him in least played.


But then why dont they give us AR? This least win mode will even screw over the mmr more than AR mode. I am really really baffled by the decision of valve on this.


TBH, there should be different MMR levels on every mode.


and different mmr for solo queue and stack queue too.


Well I don't think different MMR for solo and stack should be different.

I do however think the match making should be on the same level. Meaning if you're solo queuing, you should be playing against 9 solo queuers as well or be the odd one out in a 4-stacked team, same goes for the other side. If you're in a 5-stack, play with either another 5-stack or a combination of 3-stack+ 2-stack.


That would be the best, 10 solo queuers but it would take too long to get a game during non-peak hours (unless there are billionsss of people play the game after released which is not entirely impossible, i hope ).

On January 19 2013 01:38 clusen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 01:08 BurningSera wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:08 trinxified wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:07 BurningSera wrote:
On January 19 2013 00:27 PassiveAce wrote:
I think the purpose is to be able to practice heroes your bad with, like i am something like 5 and 12 with lion for some reason and I can play him in least played.


But then why dont they give us AR? This least win mode will even screw over the mmr more than AR mode. I am really really baffled by the decision of valve on this.


TBH, there should be different MMR levels on every mode.


and different mmr for solo queue and stack queue too.

That would make stacking with players of vastly different skill levels so much more enjoyable gameplay-wise, would be a great addition imo.

Different mmr levels for different gamemodes is silly and I don't see any reason for that.


Ya when my solo queue mmr should be different from queuing with my higher/lower mmr friends.

And I said different mmr for different modes solely because i want AR so badly xD The biggest counter argument for having AR is the mode can screw over player's mmr.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Cocacooh
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1510 Posts
January 18 2013 17:10 GMT
#38289
And then one could argue that if you queue AR you dont give a shit about your mmr in the first place :p
on another note cant connect to steam TT
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
January 18 2013 17:11 GMT
#38290
On January 19 2013 01:48 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 01:23 trinxified wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:08 BurningSera wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:08 trinxified wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:07 BurningSera wrote:
On January 19 2013 00:27 PassiveAce wrote:
I think the purpose is to be able to practice heroes your bad with, like i am something like 5 and 12 with lion for some reason and I can play him in least played.


But then why dont they give us AR? This least win mode will even screw over the mmr more than AR mode. I am really really baffled by the decision of valve on this.


TBH, there should be different MMR levels on every mode.


and different mmr for solo queue and stack queue too.


Well I don't think different MMR for solo and stack should be different.

I do however think the match making should be on the same level. Meaning if you're solo queuing, you should be playing against 9 solo queuers as well or be the odd one out in a 4-stacked team, same goes for the other side. If you're in a 5-stack, play with either another 5-stack or a combination of 3-stack+ 2-stack.


That would be the best, 10 solo queuers but it would take too long to get a game during non-peak hours (unless there are billionsss of people play the game after released which is not entirely impossible, i hope ).

Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 01:38 clusen wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:08 BurningSera wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:08 trinxified wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:07 BurningSera wrote:
On January 19 2013 00:27 PassiveAce wrote:
I think the purpose is to be able to practice heroes your bad with, like i am something like 5 and 12 with lion for some reason and I can play him in least played.


But then why dont they give us AR? This least win mode will even screw over the mmr more than AR mode. I am really really baffled by the decision of valve on this.


TBH, there should be different MMR levels on every mode.


and different mmr for solo queue and stack queue too.

That would make stacking with players of vastly different skill levels so much more enjoyable gameplay-wise, would be a great addition imo.

Different mmr levels for different gamemodes is silly and I don't see any reason for that.


Ya when my solo queue mmr should be different from queuing with my higher/lower mmr friends.

And I said different mmr for different modes solely because i want AR so badly xD The biggest counter argument for having AR is the mode can screw over player's mmr.


10 solo queuers all the time would be impossible unless you disable queueing with 4 players, which would be terrible imo. It's not even a matter of time.

The issue with creating a separate MMR for groups is that you would have to start from scratch everytime you queue with a diferent composition. Giving that group default MMR would be really bad, would screw up matchmaking until you get to the correct MMR. They could use your solo queue MMR to create the group MMR and then only change that MMR if you are queuing as a party, but even then I'm not sure it would be much better.

Right now, when I queue with really bad friends, the games are very winnable as long as I play high impact heroes, it's the same old story. That's the issue, you are "forced" to do that. A separate MMR won't fix that. There will still be a very big diference between your team with the best player as CM and your team with the best player as Drow, and your games will still often be stomps. The only situation it would improve is if you want to always play low impact heroes with people far below your skill level, keeping your MMR lower than it could be. But that's not ussually the case, as you can see by the fact that most people that create smurfs end up raising their MMRs fairly quickly.
Dizmaul
Profile Joined March 2010
United States831 Posts
January 18 2013 17:12 GMT
#38291
Yeah I cant connect either...
It is what it is
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42414 Posts
January 18 2013 17:13 GMT
#38292
Steam seems to be down, friends saying they cannot play other games.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Cocacooh
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1510 Posts
January 18 2013 17:15 GMT
#38293
day 2 of 8 hours uni into no dota. sad
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
January 18 2013 17:16 GMT
#38294
I am playing right now so steam is definetly fine.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42414 Posts
January 18 2013 17:16 GMT
#38295
Few tweets by Tobi, about the Twitch channel etc.

twitch already set me up with a partner account even tho I am tied to own3d.tv


Thanks to everyone who stayed awake during the night, nap time, probably going to come back later. http://www.twitch.tv/tobiwandota <- Channel for SLTV
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
January 18 2013 17:19 GMT
#38296
Can't connect to steam either qq
Cocacooh
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1510 Posts
January 18 2013 17:19 GMT
#38297
seems to be working now, for me atleast.
VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
January 18 2013 17:22 GMT
#38298
Guys, question

I can't remember the topic where someone was giving advices to see our MMR.
Where is it pls ?
ANGRY_KOREA_MAN. -- Giff WC4 plz
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 18 2013 17:24 GMT
#38299
On January 19 2013 02:22 VelJa wrote:
Guys, question

I can't remember the topic where someone was giving advices to see our MMR.
Where is it pls ?


You can't see MMR since a looooong time.

Best you can do is play around with private lobby "balance teams" button to see who is higher amongst a group of friends.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 18 2013 17:27 GMT
#38300
Hey, do you guys of any good websites to find drafts of progames / proteams (besides dota academy). I want to find some draft of Na'Vi running lifestealer lately, and can't find a good site.
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