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StoRm_res
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland891 Posts
January 18 2013 10:37 GMT
#38241
On January 18 2013 19:21 Velr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 18:25 StoRm_res wrote:
Had a pretty good experience using least played until now. No drows, no pudges, no snipers, no bountys. Just people playing to have fun =)

Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 18:25 StoRm_res wrote:
Had a pretty good experience using least played until now. No drows, no pudges, no snipers, no bountys. Just people playing to have fun =)


My least played heroes actually look like a "who is who of the common pubstomper"... Riki, Pudge, Sniper, Drow... They are all there :p.

Yeah mine too ^^
But I still dont pick them in least played because there's plenty of other heroes I have played seldomly and appeal more to me =) Like I really want to learn visage, he seems pretty strong in capable hands.
Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19141 Posts
January 18 2013 10:47 GMT
#38242
On January 18 2013 06:36 duoform wrote:
Not mad, just curious. I have no interest in LoL so having it in the calendar is rather annoying.

Tree needs a rework imo. No matter how much you buff him, he feels useless. Incoming Nyovne bitching about he's the best hero in the game.

Wuttt wuuttttttt?! But yeah I love the guy to shit but he really needs a remake. The invisibility skill can be really nice lategame where you can invis your entire team and gank/initiate but it really is just not a good skill. Leech seed slow is just useless, 23-24% for 3 seconds really gets nothing done. I'm always saying it should be a 3 second root that interrupts channeling but that's the fanboy in me. Then again, might be worth a try for a patch as the hero is dead as is.

His ultimate is fine, the casttime is just really long which is kinda annoying and a real bitch to cancel. The manacost and cooldown really offset it though and make it great. My biggest gripe with the ultimate is that it doesn't stop spellcasting and Void can just timewalk out of it for example while AM can't blink (I know wut). And overgrowthing and still getting ravaged is a bitch .

--

Living armour is absolutely awsome, block 20/40/60/80 on 7 instances + great regeneration? It stops so much damage, especially helping out an offlaner (global cast etc) or saving someone from a gank. Nothing to say about this skill except that perhaps only hero hits should remove charges/hit instances. All in all a great laning skill.

Nature's guise should be remade. I've always loved the idea that Roof could dig in and "root" himself just as the protectors in WC3 could which would give him certain benefits but I have no idea how this would work, let alone be useful options over his other two abilities. His old vision ability was really good and was preferable over the current skill imo. Create treants like prophet would be the obvious great skill for him but it's already taken .

Leech seed might root for 3 seconds and interrupt channeling and also it's manacost at 140 for all levels is too prohibitive and could be 80/100/120/140 or 110/120/130/140 or something. Even always 100 might be worth a try to be honest. The hero and his skills just needs some experimenting with. (I am aware this would make it a really really really really really good ability. As it roots, damages and heals.)

Overgrowth has a great cooldown and manacost but not stopping spellcasting and no damage make it an ability that feels like it is lacking something. The answer doesn't lie in giving it damage, stopping spellcasting (aka making it a stun) or perhaps giving it a small duration increase (0.5 sec per level or somth) but going with the theme and character of the hero it should perhaps root as it does now but also grant some form of positive benefit for Rooftrellen and his allies when cast or leave an aftereffect when the immobilising effect runs out for a couple of seconds. Just throwing stuff out there now.


Blablablablalbala got carried away there :D. Just ranting and I'd love to see this hero tweaked a bit to make him more useful. Still love him as he is though <3.
ModeratorFor remember, that in the end, some are born to live, others born to die. I belong to those last, born to burn, born to cry. For I shall remain alone... forsaken.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-18 10:52:24
January 18 2013 10:51 GMT
#38243
On January 18 2013 19:02 lazyitachi wrote:
Mythical stuff does not exist thus you should not be able to see them Kappa

That would explain, haha :D
Nah but it's a bug, normally I see mythical hook trigger cast, can't see my own and actually no1 can..
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-18 11:06:45
January 18 2013 10:54 GMT
#38244
natures guise is decent but the trees kinda suck in dota2

leech seed is probably one of the worst spells in dota atm.

his ultimate is actually decent but taking away its damage was very bad since he does no aoe damage now and leech seed does crap damage on top of that, and its why people often say that hero does nothing


also his cast animation time is horribad, this would fix 50% of the problems with him
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10942 Posts
January 18 2013 10:57 GMT
#38245
A Mode that I allways wanted is actually "APB".

First everyone can ban 1 Hero, then normal picks.
StoRm_res
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland891 Posts
January 18 2013 10:59 GMT
#38246
Tree is the only hero I repick under all circumstances if I go random ^^
Pretty boring and bad hero, only good thing is his heal. Sure his invis isnt bad, but other heroes get windwalk for the same amount of mana and you can walk anywhere ^^
Ult sucks without damage and leech seed is a bad spell as well.
Worst hero in the game ^^
Chewits
Profile Joined September 2006
Northern Ireland1200 Posts
January 18 2013 11:03 GMT
#38247
On January 18 2013 14:50 Grettin wrote:
Seems like Tobi is planning to change from Own3d to Twitch. Which would be amazing if you ask me.

http://www.twitch.tv/tobiwandota/


Wise. Twitch is coming to xbox360 very soon.
Whats the altitude?
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
January 18 2013 11:10 GMT
#38248
On January 18 2013 20:03 Chewits wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 14:50 Grettin wrote:
Seems like Tobi is planning to change from Own3d to Twitch. Which would be amazing if you ask me.

http://www.twitch.tv/tobiwandota/


Wise. Twitch is coming to xbox360 very soon.

I dunno. He's streamed on Twitch before, when he needs to for some events that are sponsored by Twitch.
super gg
ControlMonkey
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia3109 Posts
January 18 2013 11:21 GMT
#38249
On January 18 2013 17:25 Froob wrote:
too much snow for uni, lets play dota all day


Too much snow? So jealous, it was 46 degrees C here today.
Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19141 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-18 11:31:06
January 18 2013 11:30 GMT
#38250
On January 18 2013 19:59 StoRm_res wrote:
Tree is the only hero I repick under all circumstances if I go random ^^
Pretty boring and bad hero, only good thing is his heal. Sure his invis isnt bad, but other heroes get windwalk for the same amount of mana and you can walk anywhere ^^
Ult sucks without damage and leech seed is a bad spell as well.
Worst hero in the game ^^

Then again, his invis is castable on teammates on a really short cd on level 4 with a long ass duration. He can invis his whole team. Now if THAT would be globally castable lol....
ModeratorFor remember, that in the end, some are born to live, others born to die. I belong to those last, born to burn, born to cry. For I shall remain alone... forsaken.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
January 18 2013 11:53 GMT
#38251
Snow day means doto day =D
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 18 2013 11:55 GMT
#38252
Living armour is amazing when you actually have communication. My teamie has saved my bacon so many times with living armour and it allows you to do some crazy moves. Think his problem is more the Leech/invis being kind of shitty in utility side and damage so he kind of has some utility but zero damage.
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
January 18 2013 12:00 GMT
#38253
On January 18 2013 20:30 Nyovne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 19:59 StoRm_res wrote:
Tree is the only hero I repick under all circumstances if I go random ^^
Pretty boring and bad hero, only good thing is his heal. Sure his invis isnt bad, but other heroes get windwalk for the same amount of mana and you can walk anywhere ^^
Ult sucks without damage and leech seed is a bad spell as well.
Worst hero in the game ^^

Then again, his invis is castable on teammates on a really short cd on level 4 with a long ass duration. He can invis his whole team. Now if THAT would be globally castable lol....

His manapool is one of the biggest problems imo. All his spells are so costly and his mana pool/int gain isn't sufficient. You could farm mana boots on him but, come on, that isn't the solution.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
January 18 2013 12:02 GMT
#38254
Everybody has a different opinion on what is the worst thing about treant, which means he is REALLY bad
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BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-18 12:04:28
January 18 2013 12:04 GMT
#38255
Outworld Devourer.

'Nuff said.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
January 18 2013 12:04 GMT
#38256
On January 18 2013 21:04 BlitzerSC wrote:
Outworld Devourer.

'Nuff said.

New doombringer name?
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Tyrran
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
France777 Posts
January 18 2013 12:18 GMT
#38257
Tree has a invis which allows him to cast spells without being revealed, a 300 AOE heal with a 10 sec cooldown that can also be used to gank, and a global lifesaver spell, and a low cooldown AOE root. His utility kit is pretty good as it is.

But yeah, his manapool is a huge issue. You want to be able to spam leech seed safely from invis in team figths, but that's not just doable because of its huge mana cost :/
Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
January 18 2013 12:21 GMT
#38258
The 0.5 sec casting time makes his spells unspammable thou, it really is quite bad
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[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
January 18 2013 12:33 GMT
#38259
On January 18 2013 21:04 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 21:04 BlitzerSC wrote:
Outworld Devourer.

'Nuff said.

New doombringer name?

Everything just looks too much like Dragon Knight.
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
ControlMonkey
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia3109 Posts
January 18 2013 12:34 GMT
#38260
On January 18 2013 21:02 Qbek wrote:
Everybody has a different opinion on what is the worst thing about treant, which means he is REALLY bad


As far as I can see, he just doesn't do anything that well.
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