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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-10 18:06:04
January 10 2013 18:04 GMT
#36861
On January 11 2013 02:49 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 02:17 pyro19 wrote:
I'm stuck on 49.85% winration.
Time to play only with stacks


unless you have good friends, you might be better off playing alone. on my main account (about 800 games played) it dropped from like 55% -> 51.50% since I started playing with friends over the last few months.

My friends aren't so good. ~:D

My friends actually bring me down from VH to High.

We still lose a lot.

They aren't very good.

Edit: Still 50.5% winrate :D!
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Solaris999
Profile Joined January 2013
United Kingdom194 Posts
January 10 2013 18:06 GMT
#36862
Regardless, stacks are always more fun - especially if you have voice comms!
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
January 10 2013 18:07 GMT
#36863
I solo q in Very high ( just barely)

I have friends that always play in normal when we party up. We lose unless I go mid/carry, no fun
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 10 2013 18:10 GMT
#36864
On January 11 2013 03:07 Qbek wrote:
I solo q in Very high ( just barely)

I have friends that always play in normal when we party up. We lose unless I go mid/carry, no fun

Queuing with people who have MMRs that far apart is always going to be awkward. Even if it's a "balanced" game, only one of two things is going to happen: either you get a game close to your friends' MMR, and it's super one-sided, or you get a game closer to your MMR, and your friends are just feeding left and right while you struggle to carry them.
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RoyGBiv_13
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1275 Posts
January 10 2013 18:19 GMT
#36865
Hehe, random'd slark in a game last night. They put up an agressive trylane bot, which fed me mercilessly until I had a DR at 23 minutes.
So, naturally, I die in the first teamfight and give up the rapier. The game lasted 80 minutes with the rapier switching sides every single teamfight. We eventually won during a base race. No racks were down at the 60 minute mark.

One of my friends decided to go back to LoL after that
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
January 10 2013 18:21 GMT
#36866
On January 11 2013 03:19 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
Hehe, random'd slark in a game last night. They put up an agressive trylane bot, which fed me mercilessly until I had a DR at 23 minutes.
So, naturally, I die in the first teamfight and give up the rapier. The game lasted 80 minutes with the rapier switching sides every single teamfight. We eventually won during a base race. No racks were down at the 60 minute mark.

One of my friends decided to go back to LoL after that


Was the game too good for his poor heart? That seems the opposite of a terrible game.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 10 2013 18:23 GMT
#36867
On January 11 2013 03:10 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 03:07 Qbek wrote:
I solo q in Very high ( just barely)

I have friends that always play in normal when we party up. We lose unless I go mid/carry, no fun

Queuing with people who have MMRs that far apart is always going to be awkward. Even if it's a "balanced" game, only one of two things is going to happen: either you get a game close to your friends' MMR, and it's super one-sided, or you get a game closer to your MMR, and your friends are just feeding left and right while you struggle to carry them.

I'm a very desperate man for 5-man CM queues.

:[
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Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
January 10 2013 18:23 GMT
#36868
On January 11 2013 03:07 Qbek wrote:
I solo q in Very high ( just barely)

I have friends that always play in normal when we party up. We lose unless I go mid/carry, no fun

Yeah I went into very high by myself and then I started to play with some friends that are in a wide range of normal and high and it all went to shit in the end. It's just not possible to play stacks like that :<

Gonna make me a new account just for solo and more serious play I think. ㅡ.ㅡ
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
January 10 2013 19:50 GMT
#36869
Fnatic vs Baguette

Meepo pick by Fnatic :O
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
January 10 2013 19:53 GMT
#36870
On January 11 2013 03:19 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
Hehe, random'd slark in a game last night. They put up an agressive trylane bot, which fed me mercilessly until I had a DR at 23 minutes.
So, naturally, I die in the first teamfight and give up the rapier. The game lasted 80 minutes with the rapier switching sides every single teamfight. We eventually won during a base race. No racks were down at the 60 minute mark.

One of my friends decided to go back to LoL after that


LOL that is a rather odd conclusion! Game too hard for weak heart or what?xD
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 10 2013 20:23 GMT
#36871
On January 11 2013 03:23 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 03:10 TheYango wrote:
On January 11 2013 03:07 Qbek wrote:
I solo q in Very high ( just barely)

I have friends that always play in normal when we party up. We lose unless I go mid/carry, no fun

Queuing with people who have MMRs that far apart is always going to be awkward. Even if it's a "balanced" game, only one of two things is going to happen: either you get a game close to your friends' MMR, and it's super one-sided, or you get a game closer to your MMR, and your friends are just feeding left and right while you struggle to carry them.

I'm a very desperate man for 5-man CM queues.

:[


Honestly I find 5 stack AP to be more high level than 5 stack CM. Mainly because in CM you can win by outdrafting since it seems most people that play CM lack some subtle drafting techniques that you find teams that use scrimming channels have.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
January 10 2013 20:34 GMT
#36872
play cm with dead9 and see his patented 4 protects 1 with sniper going 0-20 transitioning into winning the game build copyright 2013
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
January 10 2013 20:35 GMT
#36873
Nothing feels quite like starting 6-0 and ending 25-37. Exquisite is what it is
Religion: Buckethead
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
January 10 2013 20:43 GMT
#36874
Anyone know roughly when the patch will drop on the main client? Its been a while since we've had a hero patch I can't remember
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
January 10 2013 20:46 GMT
#36875
Between midnight and 2 AM GMT
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
January 10 2013 20:56 GMT
#36876
probably never to annoy kipsate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-10 20:58:49
January 10 2013 20:58 GMT
#36877
Still, if you really have a queue buddy for some time your mmr will start to sync, like mine and Tetons were for a while.

Now we just take turns at carrying eachother

(and tell each other that it wasnt our fault we lost, we are experts at that)
In the woods, there lurks..
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
January 10 2013 20:59 GMT
#36878
I just get carried.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-10 21:02:53
January 10 2013 21:02 GMT
#36879
On January 11 2013 05:58 Iplaythings wrote:
Still, if you really have a queue buddy for some time your mmr will start to sync, like mine and Tetons were for a while.

Now we just take turns at carrying eachother

(and tell each other that it wasnt our fault we lost, we are experts at that)

Even if your MMR syncs, if your actual ability at the game is vastly different, it will still cause problems (particularly if one player's MMR starts to overstate his actual skill because he's getting carried by the better player).

It's less likely to be a big deal when its only 2 people. It's most apparent if you're playing 5 stacks where one or two players are vastly better than the others.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-10 21:12:34
January 10 2013 21:11 GMT
#36880
On January 11 2013 05:23 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 03:23 Comeh wrote:
On January 11 2013 03:10 TheYango wrote:
On January 11 2013 03:07 Qbek wrote:
I solo q in Very high ( just barely)

I have friends that always play in normal when we party up. We lose unless I go mid/carry, no fun

Queuing with people who have MMRs that far apart is always going to be awkward. Even if it's a "balanced" game, only one of two things is going to happen: either you get a game close to your friends' MMR, and it's super one-sided, or you get a game closer to your MMR, and your friends are just feeding left and right while you struggle to carry them.

I'm a very desperate man for 5-man CM queues.

:[


Honestly I find 5 stack AP to be more high level than 5 stack CM. Mainly because in CM you can win by outdrafting since it seems most people that play CM lack some subtle drafting techniques that you find teams that use scrimming channels have.

Yes well, as previously mentioned, we don't play that well. Especially since the two of the players tend to be very different people from day to day (can usually depend on the same 3 people being on every night, though).

Edit: Random question - what is your skill build for a 5th slot (maybe 4th) Shadow shaman?
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