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Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
January 03 2013 19:57 GMT
#35701
Blink Dagger and Ghost Scepter on Nyx.
Skol
RoyGBiv_13
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1275 Posts
January 03 2013 20:01 GMT
#35702
On January 04 2013 04:55 Qbek wrote:
Sheep is good on any non DPS hero. When in doubt, go hex!

While sheep is godlike, I like the utility of euls specifically on nyx. The ability to tornado yourself in order to buy time for your low cooldowns to come up again is a pretty nifty trick. also, waiting for void to chrono, then tornado'ing him is priceless.

The additional movespeed coupled with your ult gives him a crazy sudden initiation
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 03 2013 20:04 GMT
#35703
On January 04 2013 05:01 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 04:55 Qbek wrote:
Sheep is good on any non DPS hero. When in doubt, go hex!

While sheep is godlike, I like the utility of euls specifically on nyx. The ability to tornado yourself in order to buy time for your low cooldowns to come up again is a pretty nifty trick. also, waiting for void to chrono, then tornado'ing him is priceless.

The additional movespeed coupled with your ult gives him a crazy sudden initiation

If the void is bad enough to not have a BKB by the time you build a Euls on Nyx, then you have a lot of problems there.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 20:18:39
January 03 2013 20:12 GMT
#35704
Eul's vs. Void is a lot less appealing now since Void Ulti doesn't freeze targets in the "Cycloned" state.

In DotA 1, if you could Cyclone yourself before Void Ult, the Cyclone wouldn't time out until the Void ult ended, effectively saving yourself for the duration.

EDIT: hmm, it seems like everything that used to pause buff durations no longer does so. Should have expected as much since I knew that Disruption/Astral don't do it anymore, but I figured they might have made exceptions for Void ult.

Seems like a net nerf to Void since your bashes no longer get "saved" for the end of Void ult.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
January 03 2013 20:26 GMT
#35705
Are you sure about that last statement? Because if so the 'void's bashes now do 2x damage while in chronosphere' was a completely useless change in Dota 1.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
January 03 2013 20:27 GMT
#35706
The damage applied anyway, the duration was saved
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
January 03 2013 20:32 GMT
#35707
On January 04 2013 05:26 Firebolt145 wrote:
Are you sure about that last statement? Because if so the 'void's bashes now do 2x damage while in chronosphere' was a completely useless change in Dota 1.

its just mean that while you get bonus damage, the target will be stunned at the end of the chrono regardless if you bashed or not at the end of it
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Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
January 03 2013 20:40 GMT
#35708
If I got BM'd by Dendi and ported to the corner of the map I'd say thank you very much, because I know what it's like to have my game ruined by other people, heh.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 20:51:10
January 03 2013 20:50 GMT
#35709
Just tested Nyx. If you Ghost Scepter and activate Carapace, it reflects the amplified damage value of spells cast at you. I'd say this makes Ghost Scepter on Nyx extraordinarily strong against certain heroes, and a must-buy in many games. It essentially negates the downside of Ghost Scepter (enemies do more spell damage to you) and instead turns it into a damage amplification on the reflected damage.
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
January 03 2013 20:54 GMT
#35710
Jesust christ, nyx is the counter to KOTL pushes. LOL.
KOTL gets to eat 700 damage by firing illuminate.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 20:56:32
January 03 2013 20:55 GMT
#35711
On January 04 2013 05:54 Unleashing wrote:
Jesust christ, nyx is the counter to KOTL pushes. LOL.
KOTL gets to eat 700 damage by firing illuminate.


Why 700? Is that exaggeration lol? Technically Nyx already counters KotL with the 1-2-3 burst combo.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
January 03 2013 20:57 GMT
#35712
On January 04 2013 05:50 TheYango wrote:
Just tested Nyx. If you Ghost Scepter and activate Carapace, it reflects the amplified damage value of spells cast at you. I'd say this makes Ghost Scepter on Nyx extraordinarily strong against certain heroes, and a must-buy in many games. It essentially negates the downside of Ghost Scepter (enemies do more spell damage to you) and instead turns it into a damage amplification on the reflected damage.


Thats the idea I was pretty much going off of. Blink in, stun, Ghost scepter/carapace on. You're pretty much guaranteed a safe initiation, and an even better one should they cast a spell on you.
Skol
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
January 03 2013 20:57 GMT
#35713
NyX so strong, and his laugh so evil. What you do but ban that cheeky son of a gun! Nyx support is 4 or 5...usually 5. Dagon is never recommended there as was said so don't be a looney bin and make your teammates rage.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 03 2013 20:57 GMT
#35714
On January 04 2013 05:55 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 05:54 Unleashing wrote:
Jesust christ, nyx is the counter to KOTL pushes. LOL.
KOTL gets to eat 700 damage by firing illuminate.


Why 700? Is that exaggeration lol? Technically Nyx already counters KotL with the 1-2-3 burst combo.

Ghost Scepter, as I stated. 500 damage amplified by 40% because you would have taken 700 damage with Ghost Scepter active, but you instead reflect it back at KotL.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 21:07:55
January 03 2013 21:07 GMT
#35715
On January 04 2013 05:57 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 05:55 trinxified wrote:
On January 04 2013 05:54 Unleashing wrote:
Jesust christ, nyx is the counter to KOTL pushes. LOL.
KOTL gets to eat 700 damage by firing illuminate.


Why 700? Is that exaggeration lol? Technically Nyx already counters KotL with the 1-2-3 burst combo.

Ghost Scepter, as I stated. 500 damage amplified by 40% because you would have taken 700 damage with Ghost Scepter active, but you instead reflect it back at KotL.

Never thought i'd see the day where ghost scepter was core as a teamfight item.

Edit: I still think blink before Ghost, though.
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
January 03 2013 21:28 GMT
#35716
On January 04 2013 05:57 Slardar wrote:
NyX so strong, and his laugh so evil. What you do but ban that cheeky son of a gun! Nyx support is 4 or 5...usually 5. Dagon is never recommended there as was said so don't be a looney bin and make your teammates rage.


http://www.dota2wiki.com/images/e/ee/Nyx_kill_17.mp3

rofl.

And ya all NA needs to do is utilizing every one of his ulti, dagon is a plus.

Feel so weird when i saw the first ban NA in G league lately, is like i went back in time.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
January 03 2013 21:30 GMT
#35717
Thanks for the idea Yango! Cant wait to try it out
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Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 22:19:23
January 03 2013 22:01 GMT
#35718
Ya that is the one BurningSera . Nyx voice actor definitely gets my vote for top 3 of the best voice acting. Perhaps #1 for me.

*edit* Wow nice job. I knew he did for other heroe(s), just didn't know which one(s).
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
January 03 2013 22:13 GMT
#35719
On January 04 2013 07:01 Slardar wrote:
Ya that is the one BurningSera . Nyx voice actor definitely gets my vote for top 3 of the best voice acting. Perhaps #1 for me.


That voice actor does Magnus and Visage too
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 22:43:24
January 03 2013 22:37 GMT
#35720
o-o my dota is patching
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