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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
March 03 2012 10:56 GMT
#3461
On March 03 2012 19:53 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 18:26 Knightess wrote:
On March 03 2012 12:57 NB wrote:
:-/ team suckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk god damn.... they dont even know you could get tier4 without destroying rax... also i think they are team of 4 bc they didnt talk at all -_-

you can't out-rax invoker unless you have Tiny LOL carry invoker ftw


it was AM.... u were like paper thin without AM.... somehow i got matched with terrible players today... worst part is most of the sd give me no real carry :--/....

need -swap NAO

Yeah SD without swap is really bad... One of the reason I'm sticking with AP so far(the other being I hate to be limited and get nothing in return, ie bonus gold in AR)
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
March 03 2012 11:21 GMT
#3462
On March 03 2012 19:56 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 19:43 Yoshi- wrote:
You don't really need bootle and Arcane

Soulring is enough

Soul Ring is definitely not enough. Without any source of extra mana, you don't even have enough mana for a full Brain Sap->Nightmare->Ulti combo until level 10 (and after you get rank 2 ulti, you have to wait till level 13 to have enough mana for it again)--and even then you've got absolutely no mana for Blink or a second Brain Sap,. With just Soul Ring, you have to be pretty much be sitting at max mana all the time from levels 7-9 if you want to have the ability to cast a full combo. Arcanes+Bottle buffers your mana (getting +Mana early is a pretty big deal for Bane when your first 2 major items don't give you any Intelligence) and gives you much more room to work with in terms of your regen.

Plus in general I think Soul Ring is a pretty shitty item. I'd only get it on carries that absolutely want Treads (Dragon Knight, Broodmother)--otherwise I think Arcanes are just a more useful item overall.


You NEED soulring + bottle/arcane boots on bane. Otherwise you have nothing other than the brainsap, and even then brainsap is like 140 and soulring gives 100.
High Risk Low Reward
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 03 2012 11:34 GMT
#3463
On March 03 2012 20:21 Spicy_Curry wrote:
You NEED soulring + bottle/arcane boots on bane. Otherwise you have nothing other than the brainsap, and even then brainsap is like 140 and soulring gives 100.

Nah, you don't need all 3. 2 is enough, and of those 3, Bottle+Arcanes are just better than Soul Ring.
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Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
March 03 2012 11:37 GMT
#3464
On March 03 2012 20:21 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 19:56 TheYango wrote:
On March 03 2012 19:43 Yoshi- wrote:
You don't really need bootle and Arcane

Soulring is enough

Soul Ring is definitely not enough. Without any source of extra mana, you don't even have enough mana for a full Brain Sap->Nightmare->Ulti combo until level 10 (and after you get rank 2 ulti, you have to wait till level 13 to have enough mana for it again)--and even then you've got absolutely no mana for Blink or a second Brain Sap,. With just Soul Ring, you have to be pretty much be sitting at max mana all the time from levels 7-9 if you want to have the ability to cast a full combo. Arcanes+Bottle buffers your mana (getting +Mana early is a pretty big deal for Bane when your first 2 major items don't give you any Intelligence) and gives you much more room to work with in terms of your regen.

Plus in general I think Soul Ring is a pretty shitty item. I'd only get it on carries that absolutely want Treads (Dragon Knight, Broodmother)--otherwise I think Arcanes are just a more useful item overall.


You NEED soulring + bottle/arcane boots on bane. Otherwise you have nothing other than the brainsap, and even then brainsap is like 140 and soulring gives 100.


wait what? I'm assuming you're talking about mana, lv 4 brainsap costs 200 and soulring gives 150 iirc
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
March 03 2012 13:14 GMT
#3465
so like, are the servers down or smth?
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cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
March 03 2012 13:23 GMT
#3466
they seem to be, I cant start searching for a game
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
March 03 2012 13:23 GMT
#3467
I can't get into a party. So it seems like they are down for the time being.
"I am a leaf on the wind."
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
March 03 2012 13:28 GMT
#3468
btw, this just got uploaded



man, is this amazing or what @__@
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Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
March 03 2012 13:46 GMT
#3469
That video is sick. I really can't wait for the finals tommorow :D. And servers down ? I wanted to play a game before I settle down to do work D:.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
March 03 2012 14:01 GMT
#3470
On March 03 2012 22:28 konadora wrote:
btw, this just got uploaded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6W376wMpdk

man, is this amazing or what @__@


sick video, gonna rewatch some vods now while waiting for the servers

wonder why they didn't put dendi's fountain rampage though
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 14:22:29
March 03 2012 14:18 GMT
#3471
On March 03 2012 22:28 konadora wrote:
btw, this just got uploaded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6W376wMpdk

man, is this amazing or what @__@


Man there were some sick plays in that video. That SGT game with Dreamshock prob has the most sick plays I have ever seen an enigma do.
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
March 03 2012 14:47 GMT
#3472
On March 03 2012 20:34 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 20:21 Spicy_Curry wrote:
You NEED soulring + bottle/arcane boots on bane. Otherwise you have nothing other than the brainsap, and even then brainsap is like 140 and soulring gives 100.

Nah, you don't need all 3. 2 is enough, and of those 3, Bottle+Arcanes are just better than Soul Ring.



I have to disagree. Botle + soulring is better than botle+arcane. All 3 of them is indeed a waste. But soulring is a life saver for bane, and you simply needs botle to have a good lane control. Phase is great, so is treads. But arcane is imo a waste of money on mana.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 14:56:35
March 03 2012 14:55 GMT
#3473
On March 03 2012 23:47 Kznn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 20:34 TheYango wrote:
On March 03 2012 20:21 Spicy_Curry wrote:
You NEED soulring + bottle/arcane boots on bane. Otherwise you have nothing other than the brainsap, and even then brainsap is like 140 and soulring gives 100.

Nah, you don't need all 3. 2 is enough, and of those 3, Bottle+Arcanes are just better than Soul Ring.



I have to disagree. Botle + soulring is better than botle+arcane. All 3 of them is indeed a waste. But soulring is a life saver for bane, and you simply needs botle to have a good lane control. Phase is great, so is treads. But arcane is imo a waste of money on mana.


Except Arcane help both yourself and your team unlike soul ring or phase. So I can def see why Arcane+bottle is better if you don't have guys getting arcane on your team.
Rybka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States836 Posts
March 03 2012 14:59 GMT
#3474
That mid-leap swap from VS on Mirana was insane!! Check ~4:20 O_o
"I like winter, you can put a beer outside of the window and come back later to have it nice and cold. But in Belgium, it'd better be the 3rd floor window." -Rowa
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
March 03 2012 15:59 GMT
#3475
Thats why Enigma is awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
March 03 2012 16:14 GMT
#3476
i dont get how the hell did AM get 3 kills with mana void in the first one though lol
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Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 16:17:52
March 03 2012 16:17 GMT
#3477
WE vs coL game 2... huge "wtf is going on"

@kona: AM voided rhasta, who had low mana + void has AOE dmg = dead chen+lich too
ffxiv enjoyer
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
March 03 2012 16:17 GMT
#3478
tobi may have his detractors, but he adds legit hype to all of the matches he casts and makes teamfights epic. the highlight video was one continuous tobi yellfest (with a couple of synderen/slesh oohs and aahs mixed in), which i did not mind at all.
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
March 03 2012 16:24 GMT
#3479
On March 04 2012 01:17 DoNotDisturb wrote:
WE vs coL game 2... huge "wtf is going on"

@kona: AM voided rhasta, who had low mana + void has AOE dmg = dead chen+lich too

wait since when did void had aoe damage lol

i must be getting old ~_~
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 03 2012 16:28 GMT
#3480
On March 04 2012 01:17 zeehar wrote:
tobi may have his detractors, but he adds legit hype to all of the matches he casts and makes teamfights epic. the highlight video was one continuous tobi yellfest (with a couple of synderen/slesh oohs and aahs mixed in), which i did not mind at all.

Yea tobi has his faults but he def brings the hype.
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